going from Santa Clara to Boalt
This is absolutely absurd. BLS places 6% in clerkships: You are ALREADY well into that 6%. CLS's 15% figure would require that you break into the top 10-15% as a 2L at a new school with some of the smartest students in the United States.Secondly, you are eligible to apply, but not participate in, Columbia's Law Review. The only transfer student to have joined CLR is Ginsburg who transferred from Harvard for personal reasons and was already on HLR. Note how the "jounral for transfers" website qualifies its "you are eligible to apply" with "the journals have their own criteria for admissions." The Columbia Law Review site lists its own criteria: "Staff members are selected in four ways: solely on the basis of the first-year writing competition; based on a combination of writing competition score and grades; based on a combination of writing competition score, grades, and diversity criteria; or through participation in the publishable notes program held during the Autumn semester of the second year."So, yes, you can apply to participte in Columbia Law Review, but your application will be through the publishable notes program. Good luck adjusting to Columbia, participating in OCIP, and publishing a note so that you can "participate"in Columbia Law Review. Don't believe me? Call them, I did. Here's there #:212.854.4398Listen. These guys talk about breaking into the top of Columbia's class as if that's something that will be readily attainable for you. Columbia is a very very far cry from BLS, and you will realize that from the first day you step into the lecturehall and hear some of the student comments. Nothing that these guys has said is intuitive; everything that I have told you *is* intuitive. The Boalt kid is just trying to rationalize his own decision to transfer (although, admittedly, Santa Clara is a much much shittier school than Brooklyn).The poster's chief reason was essentially a "so you don't get embarassed when someone asks you where you went to school." This is so foolish it barely needs addressing. Pride is an ugly thing. Are you going to make your decision based on pride, or based on what you really want to do with your life?You are well within the 6% at BLS who get clerkships. There were no stats provided from the guy who said "2.5% at my much better school didn't get clerkships" -- a stat which I would find VERY difficult to believe (mainly because there is no way that it could be true, save HUGE personality defects in the applicants). The guy urging you to go to Columbia misled you about Law Review, unless you plan on submitting a note to "participate." They talk about clerkship opportunities at Columbia as much better because they are given to 15% of the class.This year's entering Columbia class has median stats of 3.67/171. Fully 3/4 come from top 10 undergrads. They all have one year up on you in terms of establishing study groups and information on course-selection and grades. There is no doubt that you are "Columbia material," but so is everybody else there. To think that your 2.5% at BLS will translate into 10%, let alone 2.5%, at Columbia is simply foolish. You would have to work your ass off, and you know that very well. Don't listen to these f**cking idiots. Go talk to your professors, like I suggested. don't blindly follow their illogical, misleading lies. Talk to your professor, get an idea of the entire equation. Email several BLS alumni who got Circuit clerkships (the career services office will readily supply you with their names). This isn't difficult. Just don't listen to these guys' lies.
So, almost a year later, how did your choice work out for you?
Equally fair points, even if your name is RonJeremy. The prestige wh*re inside me also pushes me in the direction of Columbia. Let's be honest, we all like to feel special & smart. We all like it when after you say where you go to school, the person you are speaking with replies "Oh my God. You must be smart." I know it sounds superficial, but it's the truth.