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Re: The Biography of a Dangerous Idea
« Reply #160 on: February 09, 2008, 01:51:56 PM »
Indeed A T P !

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« Reply #161 on: February 09, 2008, 02:16:04 PM »
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Re: The Biography of a Dangerous Idea
« Reply #162 on: February 09, 2008, 03:20:37 PM »

Indeed A T P !


Sarcastically funny, s/c? I can't really tell!

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Latent Homosexuality: Paranoid Delusions Rage and Anxiety
« Reply #163 on: February 15, 2008, 04:38:23 PM »

[...] This is called "projective identification". They attribute evil and corruption to their enemies and foes. These forms of paranoia are called projection and splitting. [...]

Latent homosexuality is an erotic tendency toward members of the same sex which is not consciously experienced or expressed in overt action. The term was originally proposed by Sigmund Freud. According to Freud, "latent" or "unconscious" homosexuality which derived from failure of the defense of repression and and sublimation permit or threaten emergence into consciousness of homosexual impulses, which give rise to conflict manifested in the appearance of symptoms. These symptoms include fear of being homosexual, dreams with manifest and "latent" homosexual content, conscious homosexual fantasies and impulses, homosexual panic, disturbance in heterosexual functioning, and passive-submissive responses to other males. The Freudian position on latent homosexuality is summarized in this quotation by Karl Abraham:

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"In normal individuals the homosexual component of the sexual instinct undergoes sublimation. Between men, feelings of unity and friendship become divested of all sexuality. The man of normal feeling is repelled by any physical contact implying tenderness with another of his own sex...Alcohol suspends these feelings. When they are drinking, men will fall upon one another's necks and kiss each other...when sober, the same men will term such conduct effeminate...The homosexual components which have been repressed and sublimated by the influences of education become unmistakably evident under the influence of alcohol."

In keeping with this train of thoughts, it is not unusual for individuals who exhibit characteristics of latent homosexuality often find themselves drawn to ultra-masculine professions, such as policeman and fireman; to name a few. Many professional sports also serve as a magnet for latent homosexuals, especially the more violent and aggressive sports. The two sports boxing and wresting latent homosexuality is quite evident. And where many of the features involved in the act of intercourse between two lovers are present in the ring. For example, in both boxing and wrestling the participant hug, embrace, stroke the opponent's sweaty and scantly-covered body like any couple engaged in sexual activities. Many psychoanalytically oriented psychotherapists postulate the theory that both the boxer and the wrestler experience profound rage and guilt for their exhibitionist conduct, and for giving in to their homosexual desires. Therefore, each participant is highly-motivated to punish each other, sometime ending in death, for gratifying the unconscious homosexual desire to embrace and make love to another man.

However, the term, latent homosexuality, as commonly used in clinical practice assumes psychological characteristics. It is important to stress that the term is not used in reference to overt homosexual who attempts to suppress his homosexuality and tries to lead a heterosexual life, it applies only to heterosexuals. Many writers and some researchers have questioned the validity of latent homosexuality on both theoretical and clinical grounds. Others have expressed the opinions that latent homosexuality has been a convenient psychopathological "catch-all" category in which many types pathology are assigned, often, with little or no relationship to homosexuality. Many who questioned the term "latent homosexuality" were indeed skeptical of the "latency" concept. In an effort to put this concern to rest a group of scientific researchers headed by Irving Bieber published their conclusion in 1963 titled "Homosexuality. A Psychoanalytic Study: By Irving Bieber, et al." This study was very broad and extensive. Bieber and his associated proved beyond doubts that the "latency" concept was an appropriate criteria by which latent homosexuality is usually diagnosed. More than four decades after the Bieber's study was published skeptism about the vilidity of latent homosexuality is generating lively discussions in the public arena. The gladiators at the Freudian gate should know that help is on the way. A modern day version of Bieber and associates in the form of three psychologist: H. E. Adams, L. W. Wright, Jr., and B. A. Lohr, who conducted an experiment to test Freud's hypothesis. The conclusion was published in the Journal of Abnormal Psychology 105 (1996), under the title, "Is Homophobia Associates with Homosexual Arousal?" The finding of this study concluded that those who exhabited the most hostile and negative attitudes towards homosexuals demonstrated the hightest level of sexual arousal when exposed to homosexual pornography. In others words, their homophobia was a "reaction formation" designed to protect them from their own internal homosexual desires.

Paranoid Delusions

Since the publication of Freud's analysis of the Schreber case in 1911 psychotherapists and psychoanalysts have accepted the theory that there is a strong connection between latent homosexuality and paranoid delusions. Freud provided a skillful exposition of the theory that paranoid delusions represent various means in which the paranoid individual denies his latent homosexual desires. Freud theory had been confirmed repeatedly in many clinical studies of every researcher who worked with paranoid clients. An intense homosexual conflict is always present in the male paranoiac and is clearly obvious in the individual's history and clinical material in the early stage of the illness.

Homophobia

Hostility and discrimination against homosexual individuals are well-documented facts. Too often these negative attitudes end in verbal and physical acts of violence against homosexual individuals. In fact, upward of 90% of homosexual men and lesbians report being the subject of verbal abuse and threats, and better than one-third are survivors of violent attacks related to their homosexuality. These attitudes and behaviors toward homosexuals are labeled homophobia. Homophobia is defined as terror of being in close quarters with homosexual men and women, and an irrational fear, hatred, and intolerance by heterosexual individuals of homosexual men and lesbians. Psychoanalysts use the concept of repressed or latent homosexuality to explain the emotional malaise and irrational attitudes exhibited by individuals who feel guilty about their erotic interests and struggle to deny and repress homosexual impulses. In fact, when these individuals are placed in a situation that threatens to excite their own unwanted homosexual thoughts, they may overreact with panic, anger, or even murderous rage. On March 06, 1995, Scott Amedure (who's openly gay) appeared with Jonathan Schmitz on Jenny Jones talk show. Amedure revealed that he had a secret affection for Schmitz. Schmitz was not flattered, rather, he felt embarrassed and humiliated; off camera Schmitz expressed anger and rage. Three days after the show Schmitz purchased a shotgun. He drove to Amedure's trailer and shot him twice through the heart, killing him. It is commonly agreed among most researchers that anxiety about homosexuality typically does not occur in individuals who are same-sex oriented, but usually involves individuals who are ostensibly heterosexual and have difficulty coming to term with their homosexual feelings and impulses.

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Re: The Biography of a Dangerous Idea
« Reply #164 on: February 21, 2008, 12:03:40 PM »

Homophobia

Hostility and discrimination against homosexual individuals are well-documented facts. Too often these negative attitudes end in verbal and physical acts of violence against homosexual individuals. In fact, upward of 90% of homosexual men and lesbians report being the subject of verbal abuse and threats, and better than one-third are survivors of violent attacks related to their homosexuality. These attitudes and behaviors toward homosexuals are labeled homophobia. Homophobia is defined as terror of being in close quarters with homosexual men and women, and an irrational fear, hatred, and intolerance by heterosexual individuals of homosexual men and lesbians. Psychoanalysts use the concept of repressed or latent homosexuality to explain the emotional malaise and irrational attitudes exhibited by individuals who feel guilty about their erotic interests and struggle to deny and repress homosexual impulses. In fact, when these individuals are placed in a situation that threatens to excite their own unwanted homosexual thoughts, they may overreact with panic, anger, or even murderous rage. On March 06, 1995, Scott Amedure (who's openly gay) appeared with Jonathan Schmitz on Jenny Jones talk show. Amedure revealed that he had a secret affection for Schmitz. Schmitz was not flattered, rather, he felt embarrassed and humiliated; off camera Schmitz expressed anger and rage. Three days after the show Schmitz purchased a shotgun. He drove to Amedure's trailer and shot him twice through the heart, killing him. It is commonly agreed among most researchers that anxiety about homosexuality typically does not occur in individuals who are same-sex oriented, but usually involves individuals who are ostensibly heterosexual and have difficulty coming to term with their homosexual feelings and impulses.


The APA (American Psychiatric Association) stopped considering homosexuality as a mental disorder after prolonged social agitation and professional conflict. Homosexuals disrupted APA meetings and harassed psychiatrists. Credited for has been Dr. Judd Marmor for playing an instrumental role in declassifying homosexuality as a mental illness. However, Marmor borrowed the idea that homosexuality was not a mental illness from psychoanalyst Thomas Szasz, without giving credit to Szasz. Szasz not only believed that homosexuality was not a mental illness, but also he believed that there was no such thing as a mental illness. In a 1965 book on homosexuality edited by Marmor, which included a chapter by Szasz, he never argued that homosexuals were not mentally ill and continued to refer to homosexuals as "patients." As of 1965, Marmor's view of homosexuality concurred with the psychiatric view of homosexuality as a pathology. The APA's Committee on Nomenclature decided to remove homosexuality from the DSM in 1973. It gave opponents 15 minutes to present a rebuttal. The APA membership can overrule committee decisions even on scientific matters. Some voices appealed to the APA membership. Homosexual activists quickly purchased the APA mailing list after the National Gay Task Force (NGTF) sent out a fund-raising appeal to its members, and then drafted a letter, got it signed by some psychiatrists, and sent it to over 30,000 APA members urging them to vote to retain the nomenclature change. The letter deliberately avoided mention that the NGTF had written and distributed it. All psychiatrist signatories publicly denied any role in the cunning move by the NGTF. Only a third of the APA membership responded, but most voted to support the nomenclature change, and the decision of the Board of Trustees was allowed to stand. Clearly, the decision did not reflect how most psychiatrists viewed homosexuality then. Besides, some methods used then to prove that homosexuals are as well-adjusted as heterosexuals, such as the Rorschach test, which involves interpretations of ink-blot patterns, are so ludicrous that no self-respecting psychiatrist would use them today.

Homosexuality was declassified in two phases. At first, ego-syntonic homosexuality was removed as a diagnosis; ego syntonic refers to comfortable with orientation. A couple of years later, ego-dystonic homosexuality (not comfortable with homosexual orientation) was also removed as a diagnosis; it was assumed (not proven) that discomfort with own same-sex attraction was a result of internalizing societal homophobia. In 1994, the Board of Trustees of the APA proposed a change in the code of ethics where it would be a violation of professional conduct for a psychiatrist to help a homosexual client behave exclusively heterosexually, even at the client's request. This was remarkable since psychiatrists are expected to cater to maximal self-determination on the part of their clients. Therapists who help homosexuals change and a number of "ex-gays" threatened that if the resolution passed, they would file a lawsuit against the APA, forcing it to reopen the original basis on which homosexuality was excluded from the list of diagnoses. The activists retreated. However, it remains unethical for psychiatrists to attempt to change a homosexual based on the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or the assumption that the patient should change to exclusive heterosexual behavior for his own good.

Some curious finds

5 years after the American Psychiatric Association ( APA) removed ego-syntonic (comfortable with orientation) homosexuality from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), Garfinkle and Morin asked some psychotherapists to evaluate a patientís description. Some were told that the patient was a homosexual and others were told that the patient was a heterosexual. Psychotherapists described the homosexual patient as more severely mentally ill. It may be argued that the participants in Garfinkle and Morin's study were still influenced by the fact that only a short time ago homosexuality was classified as a mental disorder. However, 20 years after the APA declassified homosexuality as a mental illness, Rubinstein repeated Garfinkle and Morin's study and found similar results. Rubinstein's subjects were 417 predominantly secular, politically liberal, and young psychotherapists who had never been acquainted with the old versions of the DSM. Both results turned out to be inconsistent with the declared attitude of psychotherapists regarding homosexual patients, or the official position of the APA. In addition, Rubinstein reported that a survey of psychological literature revealed the declaration of psychologists that nonpatient homosexuals are not less well-adjusted than heterosexuals, or even that homosexuals are better adjusted than heterosexuals. Some psychotherapists declare that homophobia is the problem that should be treated.

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Re: The Biography of a Dangerous Idea
« Reply #165 on: February 22, 2008, 11:47:37 AM »

The Freudian position on latent homosexuality is summarized in this quotation by Karl Abraham:

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"In normal individuals the homosexual component of the sexual instinct undergoes sublimation. Between men, feelings of unity and friendship become divested of all sexuality. The man of normal feeling is repelled by any physical contact implying tenderness with another of his own sex...Alcohol suspends these feelings. When they are drinking, men will fall upon one another's necks and kiss each other...when sober, the same men will term such conduct effeminate...The homosexual components which have been repressed and sublimated by the influences of education become unmistakably evident under the influence of alcohol."


Hahaha! This surely needed some kind of genius on the part of Abraham to summarize it for us ;)

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Re: The Biography of a Dangerous Idea
« Reply #166 on: February 22, 2008, 12:27:58 PM »

Elaine's female touch appears to be just what this thread needed .. :)


hahaha ;)

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Re: The Biography of a Dangerous Idea
« Reply #167 on: February 23, 2008, 12:53:45 PM »


The Freudian position on latent homosexuality is summarized in this quotation by Karl Abraham:

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"In normal individuals the homosexual component of the sexual instinct undergoes sublimation. Between men, feelings of unity and friendship become divested of all sexuality. The man of normal feeling is repelled by any physical contact implying tenderness with another of his own sex...Alcohol suspends these feelings. When they are drinking, men will fall upon one another's necks and kiss each other...when sober, the same men will term such conduct effeminate...The homosexual components which have been repressed and sublimated by the influences of education become unmistakably evident under the influence of alcohol."


It very well echoes that wellknown saying, "Yep, I'm homoerotic, homophobic, and heterosexual!"

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Re: The Biography of a Dangerous Idea
« Reply #168 on: February 24, 2008, 03:15:30 PM »

The APA (American Psychiatric Association) [...]


I was under the impresion APA referred to American Psychological Association! I guess it's both!

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Re: The Biography of a Dangerous Idea
« Reply #169 on: March 05, 2008, 03:00:39 PM »

The APA (American Psychiatric Association) [...]


I was under the impresion APA referred to American Psychological Association! I guess it's both!


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