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Bob Loblaw

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GW and GULC
« on: January 16, 2006, 11:08:25 PM »
the goal: graduate from GULC
the options: A) attend GW full time, transfer to GULC full time or B) attend GULC part time, transfer to full time

Weigh the pros and cons of A and B. Which do you prefer?

assume applicant has more than adequate numbers to gain admission at GW full time and GULC part time, but not GULC full time, obviously.

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Re: GW and GULC
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2006, 12:20:37 AM »
i would suggest not attending any law school with the intent of transferring. sure it's relatively "easy" to transfer from GW to GULC (apparently they take top third), but let me tell you that finishing at the top of your class at GW seems a lot easier BEFORE you begin law school than it is once you get there.

i actually started in GW PT with the hopes of transferring to full time, and then to GULC, in order to "overcome", if not completely erase, the fact that i started PT. we haven't received grades back yet, but i can assure you that i will probably not finish top third. and i really did nothing but study that first semester. that's just how law school is.

i would say go to GULC PT. i think the "backdoor" PT route is a decent way of getting in to a law school of your choice that most people tend to think is worse than it really is. basically, before i started at GW, i heard a lot more people saying that the PT --> FT route is bad, but it was mostly places like this board that i heard things like this. i have never really heard that from people at the school, including those who have actually done it. the "stigma" might exist, but it's not quite like most people imagine it to be. if you do well enough in law school, employers aren't going to care that you took 1-2 less classes your first year.

so if you're planning to do well (which you must be if you're aiming to transfer), there's no real reason to consider GW FT over GULC PT. your employment prospects will be much better coming out of GULC, and if you've done well then no one will care about the PT factor. in fact, they're really more concerned about having an associate with the GULC diploma than they are about their own, personal presitge issues with the PT thing.

the only real pro i see to starting GW FT is that, if you were able to transfer to GULC, it would look really good; employers apparently like transfer students. but is this really worth the risk of not graduating top third at GW and then being able to transfer? is it preferable to starting at GULC PT, where you're very likely to form a community of colleagues who will transfer to FT and finish with you in 3 years? i don't really see why it would be.

i think the GULC PT is a route that more people should take when in the position, but for some reason don't.
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Re: GW and GULC
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2006, 12:49:31 AM »
thanks nate.

so top 1/3 would be pretty tough at GW as a 1L?

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Re: GW and GULC
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2006, 01:03:10 AM »
thanks nate.

so top 1/3 would be pretty tough at GW as a 1L?

no problem.

in regards to the top 1/3, i'm not trying to say you won't be able to do it. maybe you'll be one of those people who just "gets" law school and everything about it. but do you really want to play those odds?

the problem is, almost everyone comes in to law school (let alone a top 20 school) thinking that they're going to be at the top of the class. trust me...i was there too. but if everyone's thinking this, and everyone has about the same qualifications (and roughly the same study habits) as you coming in, what are the chances that you will finish that high? you might very well be in that 1/3, but there's a much better chance that you won't be.

most of 1L, from what i've learned, is all about getting in to the groove and finding out how you best learn the law, and especially how to "think like a lawyer". maybe it's gift, or talent, or just pure luck- i don't really know- but some people just happen to do this better, and there's no way you can know if you'll be one of them. so no matter how you're used to studying, or how well you've done in the past, i would highly suggest against counting on finishing at the top.

that being said, why not go to the school that offers you the most options despite how you do?
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Re: GW and GULC
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2006, 06:16:08 PM »
"that being said, why not go to the school that offers you the most options despite how you do?"

by this you mean gtown part time? i don't know...something seems wrong about going there with the intention of transfering into the full time program. that and it seems too good to be true.

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Re: GW and GULC
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2006, 06:55:42 PM »
yes, i mean gulc part time.

i know it doesn't feel right. it didn't feel right for me at GW either. then i got here and  half of the 120 evening students ended up transferring after first semester (we can transfer second semester). now i have a community of peers and friends with whom i have all my classes and will graduate in three years. and the supposed stigma appears to be more LSD rumor than actual fact, though i admit it must exist at least somewhat (just not to the degree people here might have you believe).

i can tell you that most people i know in my PT class that transferred would have rather done the same at gulc than start FT at GW. don't skip out on T14 opportunities simply because it doesn't feel right. it will once you get there. trust me on that.
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