Is Batman the best superhero ever?

[JackInTheBox]

If your going to lower Supe to his 50's corniness, you got to take Bats down to that level too.  I'm no DC comics historian, but I do know he had a brief television stint where he was played by Adam West; now anybody could beat on Adam West.  Anybody.

[angelus]

If your going to lower Supe to his 50's corniness, you got to take Bats down to that level too.  I'm no DC comics historian, but I do know he had a brief television stint where he was played by Adam West; now anybody could beat on Adam West.  Anybody.

comics and tv = apples and oranges.

certainly the 1950's tv supes could beat teh 60's batman. yet comics are an entirely different aspect.

[trouble]

While I agree that Batman is sweet and has cool gadgetry, I take issue with your description of Batman as the "everyman" of superheroes.  Batman is actually Bruce Wayne, who is an ultra-rich multi-gazillionaire with unlimited resources at his disposal.  This hardly qualifies him as an "everyman" figure.

But, I still believe that he is the best superhero ever.

[kenxc]

While I agree that Batman is sweet and has cool gadgetry, I take issue with your description of Batman as the "everyman" of superheroes.  Batman is actually Bruce Wayne, who is an ultra-rich multi-gazillionaire with unlimited resources at his disposal.  This hardly qualifies him as an "everyman" figure.

But, I still believe that he is the best superhero ever.

Well, the nonpowered guys have to be either independently wealthy (Batman, Green Arrow, Blue Beetle) or paid for their services (Booster Gold) in order to maintain a superhero lifestyle.

[kenxc]

How does Batman getting close to winning a fight against Supes after he has Green Arrow shoot Supes with a Kryptonite arrow constitute a 'fair fight'?   

Brings Superman down to the realm of being able to be physically defeated. Course we also have to add in the context of Superman over time. The 1950's superman could easily get his ass kicked by many beings. the superman of 2000 or even 1990 was coming into having almost godlike powers.

Wouldn't blocking the sun do a better job of accomplishing that?  Blocked sun + Superman = regular guy.  Kryptonite + Superman = badly weakened guy.

[MR2Tyler]

kenxe:  Perhaps I was being a little pedantic.  The fact remains that Batman showed up to the fight prepared and Supes didn't.  It's like showing up to a hearing without an important document, except the document was kryptonite, green arrow, a tank, and a cool cybernetic suit.

-Ty

[kenxc]

kenxe:  Perhaps I was being a little pedantic.  The fact remains that Batman showed up to the fight prepared and Supes didn't.  It's like showing up to a hearing without an important document, except the document was kryptonite, green arrow, a tank, and a cool cybernetic suit.

-Ty

You forgot the pill to simulate a heart attack, so Superman wouldn't continue to pummel him after the tables inevitably turned.  Remember even after all that, Bats doesn't win the fight, he just puts up a good fight.

[Bonkers, Jr.]

You guys need to read way more comics, arguments about superheroes that only focus on Justice League characters and Spider Man are lame.

[MR2Tyler]

You guys need to read way more comic

Never before has anyone on LSD said something so absolutely, categorically false.

-Ty

[kenxc]

You guys need to read way more comics, arguments about superheroes that only focus on Justice League characters and Spider Man are lame.

Bah.  This is only page 2!  You have to give us a bit more time and I'm sure we'll bring some more characters into the discussion.