Crimes with J. Smith

[jeffjoe]

Did we lie to our teacher when we said he had not assigned the next part of the syllabus for last night?

[urwrong]

I'm in that class and I don't see anything in my notes that said we should read ahead!  Did you have something?

[jeffjoe]

I'm in that class and I don't see anything in my notes that said we should read ahead!  Did you have something?

I couldn't remember.  In other words, I don' t have the slightest idea.

[Dicta]

uh. I think you had to say it out loud for it to be a lie, but I read Solicitation and Attempt!
Anyhow, he was tired I think, and looking to go home.
S

[jeffjoe]

uh. I think you had to say it out loud for it to be a lie, but I read Solicitation and Attempt!
Anyhow, he was tired I think, and looking to go home.
S

I said it out loooouuuuddddd

[Dicta]

Well, I guess you lied. But what was your mens rea?
S

[jeffjoe]

Well, I guess you lied. But what was your mens rea?
S

It was "If I say no, even though I'm not sure, maybe I can go home early."

[Dicta]

Ok, so "knowingly" would be the mens rea, right?
 

[jeffjoe]

Ok, so "knowingly" would be the mens rea, right?
 

unknowningly.  I couldn't remember if we had an assignment or not.

[Dicta]

ok, then you didn't lie. Mistake of fact!
S