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jessesamuel

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what is regional vs. national according to US News
« on: March 25, 2005, 06:17:20 AM »
Alright. Loyola (CA) = regional. USD = national. Why? Does anyone know the criteria this magazine uses to determine whether a school is regional or national? I used to think it had to do with the percentage of grads who stayed in-state after graduation. But that makes less sense to me now. So how does US News figure this out and how useful is this categorization? 

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Re: what is regional vs. national according to US News
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2005, 03:12:54 PM »
from reading the book 1L i understand that the classification is based on the subject matter taught in the school.

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Re: what is regional vs. national according to US News
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2005, 04:08:54 PM »
wow, the mystery deepens.

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Re: what is regional vs. national according to US News
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2005, 07:59:05 PM »
wow, the mystery deepens.

i can't find the quote, but the spirit of the context in the book 1L was something like this:

regional school = your education is tailored more to your region's bar exam
national school = your education is generic so it can be applied to any state bar exam

here are some other def's; i do not know what the USnews def is.
http://www.las.uiuc.edu/students/advising/prelaw/law_school/categories.html

HTH


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Re: what is regional vs. national according to US News
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2005, 09:08:17 PM »
It seems that the first two tiers are considered national according to USNWR.

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Re: what is regional vs. national according to US News
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2005, 10:09:31 PM »
It seems that the first two tiers are considered national according to USNWR.

they (usnwr) list tjsl as a national school. tjsl is a 4th tier school.

School   Thomas Jefferson School of Law (CA)                
Public/Private   Private                
Size (FT/PT)   622 / 211                
U.S. News rank   Tier 4                
Regional/National law school   National                
Location                    
City/State   San Diego, CA                
Distance from home (miles)   1861                
Admissions                    
Acceptance rate   23.1%                
Number of applicants   4,046                
Number accepted   936                
Number enrolled   223                
Undergrad GPA (25/75 percentile)   2.67 - 3.35                
LSAT scores (25/75 percentile)   150-157                
Academics                    
Student/faculty ratio   27.6                
Total titles in library   114,790                
Total volumes in library   229,304                
Top state for first-time bar exam   CA                
Bar passage rate   47.2%                
State Bar passage rate   60.2%                
Cost                  
Private tuition and fees   $26,950 per year                
Public in-state tuition and fees   N/A                
Public out-of-state tuition and fees   N/A                
Room/Board   N/A                
Books   N/A                
Miscellaneous expenses   N/A                
Average indebtedness (2004)    $8,965                
Financial Aid                    
Students receiving grants   55.1%                
Median grant amount   $6,000                
Student Body                  
Percent male/female   59.3% / 40.7%                
Percent minority   15.5%                
Percent international   0.0%                
Career Prospects                  
Percent employed after nine months   77.0%                
Employed in academia   1%                
Employed in business/industry (legal)   22%                
Employed in business/industry (non legal)   0%                
Employed in government   5%                
Employed in judicial clerkship    7%                
Employed in law firms   54%                
Employed in public interest   1%                
Starting salary, private sector (25/75)   N/A                
Median starting salary, private sector   N/A                
Percent in private sector reporting salary information   N/A                
Median starting salary, public service   N/A                
Percent employed in-state   68.0%                
Employed internationally   2%                
Employed in New England   N/A                
Employed in Middle Atlantic   N/A                
Employed in East North Central   N/A                
Employed in West North Central   N/A                
Employed in South Atlantic   N/A                
Employed in East South Central   N/A                
Employed in West South Central   N/A                
Employed in Mountain   N/A                
Employed in Pacific   N/A                
Employed in Unknown   1%                
                  

kristay

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Re: what is regional vs. national according to US News
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2005, 10:13:26 PM »
Wow.  USNWR has serious issues.

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Re: what is regional vs. national according to US News
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2005, 11:04:48 PM »
Wow.  USNWR has serious issues.

I've known this for quite some time.
SMU Fall '05

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Re: what is regional vs. national according to US News
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2005, 11:16:14 PM »
Haha...me too, but now I'm totally surprised by just how ridiculous their methodology must be.

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Re: what is regional vs. national according to US News
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2005, 11:41:25 PM »
Do we know if USNews determines whether a school is National/Regional or if a school fills in the blank when it submits the survey to USNews?