Quote from: I hear America singing on March 29, 2005, 03:54:25 PMI wouldn't want to die based on a "best guess".I, Terri, and upwards of 80% of people would not want to be kept alive in a prison of our own bodies, completly unaware of the outside world. That being said I think that whatever spirt/soul/essance that was her is long gone.
I wouldn't want to die based on a "best guess".
What would happen legally if someone (her parents or a protestor) did manage to break in and wet her lips with a sponge or piece of ice? They'd be breaking the law obviously, but can you really see someone being led away in handcuffs for moistening the lips of a dying woman?
Quote from: giffy on March 29, 2005, 03:52:06 PMQuote from: I hear America singing on March 29, 2005, 01:59:50 PMThe count is now at 47: A man was tasered by police for resisting arrest. He was carrying two water bottles. Imagine that scene for a moment.In 2005, a man was tasered by police in an effort to bring water to a dying woman. I disagree vehemently with his tactics but admire his dedication to an ideal.What would happen legally if someone (her parents or a protestor) did manage to break in and wet her lips with a sponge or piece of ice? They'd be breaking the law obviously, but can you really see someone being led away in handcuffs for moistening the lips of a dying woman? If it were caught on camera, it would surely be one of those Elian Gonzalez moments that would galvanize the nation.Thye should be arrested and throwen in Jail for infringing on her rights. I don't think parents should take kids to Church becasue it is bad for them, should I kidnap them. I don't think people whould eat meat, should I break into thier house and take it away. What about cigarets should I take a smoke out of someones mouth becasue I think it will kill them. These arrogent fuckers trying to force their beleifs on Terri should get lengthy prison sentances. Having beleis and convictions is one thing. Forcing them on others is arrogent, self-centered, and often illegal. Why don't they find some productive to do with their time (adopt some kids, build house, feed the hungry) and leave the self-service publisity bull to real celebrities. Quote from: I hear America singing on March 29, 2005, 03:30:35 PMTerri's not dead, people- there's a living, breathing body in that bed. The new brain might be inactive or liquified, but the brain stem (the old brain) is still very much alive.She's not dead until her heart stops on its own accord.I think calling her "dead" is a great disgrace to life and against every biological tenet we hold true. There's not a scientist in the world who wouldn't declare her body "alive".I'll say it again- legally, the tube should be removed. But don't delude yourself into thinking she died fifteen years ago. She's starving to death right now.We can remove a heart from a body and get it to beat. Hell we can make a dead body move around a bit. Life is in the brain not the heart the lungs, the feat, or anyother place. No brain no life. So you believe she is dead? Should I grind her up now for fertilizer? Maybe you could save the family some money and cremate her right now. She can't scream, after all. And I'm sure the hospital would love to be informed that they have a dead body in their midst. The CDC would probably want to investigate how it can blink its eyes. Hell, call Fox and Mulder.
Quote from: I hear America singing on March 29, 2005, 01:59:50 PMThe count is now at 47: A man was tasered by police for resisting arrest. He was carrying two water bottles. Imagine that scene for a moment.In 2005, a man was tasered by police in an effort to bring water to a dying woman. I disagree vehemently with his tactics but admire his dedication to an ideal.What would happen legally if someone (her parents or a protestor) did manage to break in and wet her lips with a sponge or piece of ice? They'd be breaking the law obviously, but can you really see someone being led away in handcuffs for moistening the lips of a dying woman? If it were caught on camera, it would surely be one of those Elian Gonzalez moments that would galvanize the nation.Thye should be arrested and throwen in Jail for infringing on her rights. I don't think parents should take kids to Church becasue it is bad for them, should I kidnap them. I don't think people whould eat meat, should I break into thier house and take it away. What about cigarets should I take a smoke out of someones mouth becasue I think it will kill them. These arrogent fuckers trying to force their beleifs on Terri should get lengthy prison sentances. Having beleis and convictions is one thing. Forcing them on others is arrogent, self-centered, and often illegal. Why don't they find some productive to do with their time (adopt some kids, build house, feed the hungry) and leave the self-service publisity bull to real celebrities. Quote from: I hear America singing on March 29, 2005, 03:30:35 PMTerri's not dead, people- there's a living, breathing body in that bed. The new brain might be inactive or liquified, but the brain stem (the old brain) is still very much alive.She's not dead until her heart stops on its own accord.I think calling her "dead" is a great disgrace to life and against every biological tenet we hold true. There's not a scientist in the world who wouldn't declare her body "alive".I'll say it again- legally, the tube should be removed. But don't delude yourself into thinking she died fifteen years ago. She's starving to death right now.We can remove a heart from a body and get it to beat. Hell we can make a dead body move around a bit. Life is in the brain not the heart the lungs, the feat, or anyother place. No brain no life.
The count is now at 47: A man was tasered by police for resisting arrest. He was carrying two water bottles. Imagine that scene for a moment.In 2005, a man was tasered by police in an effort to bring water to a dying woman. I disagree vehemently with his tactics but admire his dedication to an ideal.What would happen legally if someone (her parents or a protestor) did manage to break in and wet her lips with a sponge or piece of ice? They'd be breaking the law obviously, but can you really see someone being led away in handcuffs for moistening the lips of a dying woman? If it were caught on camera, it would surely be one of those Elian Gonzalez moments that would galvanize the nation.
Terri's not dead, people- there's a living, breathing body in that bed. The new brain might be inactive or liquified, but the brain stem (the old brain) is still very much alive.She's not dead until her heart stops on its own accord.I think calling her "dead" is a great disgrace to life and against every biological tenet we hold true. There's not a scientist in the world who wouldn't declare her body "alive".I'll say it again- legally, the tube should be removed. But don't delude yourself into thinking she died fifteen years ago. She's starving to death right now.
Quote from: giffy on March 29, 2005, 03:58:39 PMQuote from: I hear America singing on March 29, 2005, 03:54:25 PMI wouldn't want to die based on a "best guess".I, Terri, and upwards of 80% of people would not want to be kept alive in a prison of our own bodies, completly unaware of the outside world. That being said I think that whatever spirt/soul/essance that was her is long gone. Do you want a laundry list of all the atrocities that Americans have supported at one point or another? Plurality has no room in a discussion on morality.
I don't think parents should take kids to Church becasue it is bad for them, should I kidnap them. I don't think people whould eat meat, should I break into thier house and take it away. What about cigarets should I take a smoke out of someones mouth becasue I think it will kill them. These arrogent fuckers trying to force their beleifs on Terri should get lengthy prison sentances. Having beleis and convictions is one thing. Forcing them on others is arrogent, self-centered, and often illegal. Why don't they find some productive to do with their time (adopt some kids, build house, feed the hungry) and leave the self-service publisity bull to real celebrities.
IHAS, you are displaying your latent desire for persecution/martyrdom. I never mentioned you in my quote above. I referred to the "Terry saviours". Are you actually taking legal action and protesting in an attempt to circumvent Terry's stated wishes? If so, you're an arrogant jesus-wacko. If not, you're not.
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