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Re: HBCU knowledge for the mis-informed
« Reply #100 on: April 28, 2005, 10:29:02 AM »
Look people there have been all black schools in the past and today there are, in the very least, other all black institutions within higher education such as fraternaties.  Im not saying its right or wrong or even that it shouldnt be.  I just think someone needs to chime in every once in a while and remind people that these things can go both ways.

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*buzzer* Wrong again...Unfortunately, Black Greek Letter Organizations are not all-black anymore.

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Re: HBCU knowledge for the mis-informed
« Reply #101 on: April 28, 2005, 10:33:02 AM »
ROFL are you Serious dude??? you can't possibly be serious..there have never been "all black schools" in the past... who's fault is it if white students didn't apply to go to those schools?? Blacks?  :D that's hillarious...

Black Greek Letter Organizations do not discriminate against other ethnicities... I know you don't want me to pull some pictures out again to discredit your claim... I have some time on my hands so I'd definitely do it...



Look people there have been all black schools in the past and today there are, in the very least, other all black institutions within higher education such as fraternaties.  Im not saying its right or wrong or even that it shouldnt be.  I just think someone needs to chime in every once in a while and remind people that these things can go both ways.

HTH
We're not accepting this CHANGE UP in the rules. Period. American presidents have been in the bed with organized crime, corporate pilferers, and the like for years. And all u want to put on this man is that his pastor said "Gotdamn America?" Hell, America.U got off pretty damn well, if you ask me...

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Re: HBCU knowledge for the mis-informed
« Reply #102 on: April 28, 2005, 10:40:33 AM »
Look people there have been all black schools in the past and today there are, in the very least, other all black institutions within higher education such as fraternaties.  Im not saying its right or wrong or even that it shouldnt be.  I just think someone needs to chime in every once in a while and remind people that these things can go both ways.

HTH

Black HBCUs and BGLOs do not discriminate against other races. That is not our way. Now, like black said, if whites do not want to participate it's not our fault. I graduated from Morehouse (an HBCU) with a white boy and the black law school that I'm going to ,Southern University Law Center, has a 30% white student body.  Also, a white boy crossed with me when I became a Kappa. So, wtf?   

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Re: HBCU knowledge for the mis-informed
« Reply #103 on: April 28, 2005, 10:53:07 AM »
*buzzer* Wrong again...Unfortunately, Black Greek Letter Organizations are not all-black anymore.


"Anymore" being the key word, perhaps.

http://www.blackrefer.com/fraternity.html

I've been struggling for a while now to make something clear.  This is not a personal gripe.  Now, the idea that some of these groups are self selecting does not infer necessarily that discrimination doesnt go on.  We have it on our books that employers should not descriminate of the basis of many such compository factors that make people members of identifiable groups and yet it would be foolish to think that becuase we say it, the problem is solved.

I expect people to continue to be upset with me.  Thats fine but Ive said all I wanted to say.

 

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Re: HBCU knowledge for the mis-informed
« Reply #104 on: April 28, 2005, 11:02:52 AM »
*buzzer* Wrong again...Unfortunately, Black Greek Letter Organizations are not all-black anymore.


"Anymore" being the key word, perhaps.

http://www.blackrefer.com/fraternity.html

I've been struggling for a while now to make something clear.  This is not a personal gripe.  Now, the idea that some of these groups are self selecting does not infer necessarily that discrimination doesnt go on.  We have it on our books that employers should not descriminate of the basis of many such compository factors that make people members of identifiable groups and yet it would be foolish to think that becuase we say it, the problem is solved.

I expect people to continue to be upset with me.  Thats fine but Ive said all I wanted to say.

 

What is the link supposed to mean?

Why do you think black people created these groups?
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Re: HBCU knowledge for the mis-informed
« Reply #105 on: April 28, 2005, 11:24:06 AM »
You know what screw it.. Do you know your history?? Seriously.. do you know the history of our country?? Do you honestly think that back in 1906,1908,1911,1913,1914 WHITE MEN AND WOMEN WERE ALLOWING BLACK MEN AND WOMEN INTO their fraternities and sororities??? I mean damn you can’t be that oblivious to the history of our country… They didn’t even want us in “Their” schools… Some still don't but I digress...

So what did we do? We FOUNDED fraternities and sororities as well.. but NEVER in the history of our organizations did we discriminate against whites, latinos.. ANYONE

Just because you pull up a lame ass website listing “black fraternities and sororities” means nothing… If you really want to know the deal.. and you don’t believe the people that are telling you otherwise..


Why didn’t you just apply to a HBCU to see what would happen?? Why don’t you ask some KNOWLEDGEABLE white people about the history of HBCUs and BGLOs? I posted the contact information of one of the White professors at Howard law school.. why don’t you email him.. he’ll set you str8..



*buzzer* Wrong again...Unfortunately, Black Greek Letter Organizations are not all-black anymore.


"Anymore" being the key word, perhaps.

http://www.blackrefer.com/fraternity.html

I've been struggling for a while now to make something clear.  This is not a personal gripe.  Now, the idea that some of these groups are self selecting does not infer necessarily that discrimination doesnt go on.  We have it on our books that employers should not descriminate of the basis of many such compository factors that make people members of identifiable groups and yet it would be foolish to think that becuase we say it, the problem is solved.

I expect people to continue to be upset with me.  Thats fine but Ive said all I wanted to say.

 
We're not accepting this CHANGE UP in the rules. Period. American presidents have been in the bed with organized crime, corporate pilferers, and the like for years. And all u want to put on this man is that his pastor said "Gotdamn America?" Hell, America.U got off pretty damn well, if you ask me...

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Re: HBCU knowledge for the mis-informed
« Reply #106 on: April 28, 2005, 11:31:37 AM »
LOL @ Reign. I feel ya but sometimes people just don't get "it".

But all the BS aside, what do you guys really feel about allowing white cats to join predominantly black organizations? The founder of NBLSA was speaking at the conference about one of the only things he in his life regrets is allowing white law students to join (but he felt pressure from law schools and other financial backers) cause the truth of the matter was, the only time we saw white students there was in Moot Court and Mock Trial competitions. And he felt that white students have enough resources, why did they also have to be involved and use Ours? I understood where he was coming from.

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« Reply #107 on: April 28, 2005, 11:36:27 AM »
LOL @ Reign. I feel ya but sometimes people just don't get "it".

But all the BS aside, what do you guys really feel about allowing white cats to join predominantly black organizations? The founder of NBLSA was speaking at the conference about one of the only things he in his life regrets is allowing white law students to join (but he felt pressure from law schools and other financial backers) cause the truth of the matter was, the only time we saw white students there was in Moot Court and Mock Trial competitions. And he felt that white students have enough resources, why did they also have to be involved and use Ours? I understood where he was coming from.

Nothing is sacred anymore...

As extreme as it sounds, I really wish we had something to call our own...

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Re: HBCU knowledge for the mis-informed
« Reply #108 on: April 28, 2005, 11:43:31 AM »
Girl I'm not mad  :D sometimes you have to change the tone when it comes to stupidity LOL..

In all honesty.. I do wish that our fraternities and sororities held a For Us By Us policy.. NOTHING is sacred as Blue has said


LOL @ Reign. I feel ya but sometimes people just don't get "it".

But all the BS aside, what do you guys really feel about allowing white cats to join predominantly black organizations? The founder of NBLSA was speaking at the conference about one of the only things he in his life regrets is allowing white law students to join (but he felt pressure from law schools and other financial backers) cause the truth of the matter was, the only time we saw white students there was in Moot Court and Mock Trial competitions. And he felt that white students have enough resources, why did they also have to be involved and use Ours? I understood where he was coming from.
We're not accepting this CHANGE UP in the rules. Period. American presidents have been in the bed with organized crime, corporate pilferers, and the like for years. And all u want to put on this man is that his pastor said "Gotdamn America?" Hell, America.U got off pretty damn well, if you ask me...

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Re: HBCU knowledge for the mis-informed
« Reply #109 on: April 28, 2005, 11:59:55 AM »
You know what screw it.. Do you know your history?? Seriously.. do you know the history of our country?? Do you honestly think that back in 1906,1908,1911,1913,1914 WHITE MEN AND WOMEN WERE ALLOWING BLACK MEN AND WOMEN INTO their fraternities and sororities??? I mean damn you can’t be that oblivious to the history of our country… They didn’t even want us in “Their” schools… Some still don't but I digress...

So what did we do? We FOUNDED fraternities and sororities as well.. but NEVER in the history of our organizations did we discriminate against whites, latinos.. ANYONE

Just because you pull up a lame ass website listing “black fraternities and sororities” means nothing… If you really want to know the deal.. and you don’t believe the people that are telling you otherwise..


Why didn’t you just apply to a HBCU to see what would happen?? Why don’t you ask some KNOWLEDGEABLE white people about the history of HBCUs and BGLOs? I posted the contact information of one of the White professors at Howard law school.. why don’t you email him.. he’ll set you str8..



*buzzer* Wrong again...Unfortunately, Black Greek Letter Organizations are not all-black anymore.


"Anymore" being the key word, perhaps.

http://www.blackrefer.com/fraternity.html

I've been struggling for a while now to make something clear.  This is not a personal gripe.  Now, the idea that some of these groups are self selecting does not infer necessarily that discrimination doesnt go on.  We have it on our books that employers should not descriminate of the basis of many such compository factors that make people members of identifiable groups and yet it would be foolish to think that becuase we say it, the problem is solved.

I expect people to continue to be upset with me.  Thats fine but Ive said all I wanted to say.

 

Youre missing my point entirely.  We (i.e. white people) may say that we dont discriminate on the basis of race or a lot of other things but the reality is that policy statements to that effect do not always comport with reality.  Here is a perfect example:  http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2005/04/sodexho-settles-racial-discrimination.php

IT CAN BE A TWO WAY STREET!  THATS ALL I AM SAYING! 

Black people and historically black institutions can and probably do or have had the same sort of under the carpet discrimination.  The problem I see is that its taboo and we cant ever talk about it because its been unfairly slighted in your direction for so long.  You have a certain bent that wont allow you to acknowlege that black people are as capable as white people of discriminating against whites, gays, people who keep fish as pets and so on...