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Re: The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread
« Reply #3680 on: November 09, 2009, 10:41:06 PM »
What do you guys think my chances are at Texas and Vanderbilt? I've been thinking more and more about these schools because I would be OK with being regulated to their regions and they offer good prospects in these regions---but I would go in and at least try to get grades good enough to transfer to HYS. Obviously there are no guarantees but that might be my best shot. I've heard rumors about being a black male giving one a boost for transfer admissions--what do you guys think?

Relegated, not "regulated," man. Not to be a jackass, but some people instinctively look for this kind of thing and, needless to say, it doesn't look good.

Anyway, now that I've applied to CLS with my pitiful 3.09/167, I suppose I'll just have to play the waiting game. I know you guys think I've got a shot, but is it worth getting my hopes? This is really a dumb question, but if you actually had to quantify my shot as a black male first-generation college grad, would you say over or under 50%?

Also, since I'm signed up to retake the LSAT in December, is it inevitable that I'll be deferred pending my new score? Part of my just wants a higher score for its own sake given that I've underperformed so badly. However, since LSAC stats suggest that I'm already well within the top 1% of black male lsat scores (feel free to correct me here), it seems clear that even a 178 wouldn't make much of a difference. 

Any additional thoughts? I totally understand if you're sick my questions btw. Thanks all!

It's called a typo---I'm aware that they don't even mean the same thing.

No it's not. It's called an error. A typo involves misplacing a word here or there...you typed an actual word but applied it incorrectly.

Let it go man, it's almost been a week.

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Re: The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread
« Reply #3681 on: November 10, 2009, 05:32:45 AM »
I just got my results back from the Sept LSAT, I scored a 167. I'm a black male, I have a 2.7 GPA with a marked upward trend (3.8 my last year)from Morehouse. I spent five years after school as a paratrooper/infantryman in the army and in the time I deployed to both Iraq and Afghanistan. I am looking to go to top 14. Period. I realize that in this economy going to on non-T14, even Howard, just seems like a path to nowhere (or a stupid contract law job reviewing documents in some basement) and definitely not a path to BigLaw. I am applying next cycle, not this one. I am looking to apply ED to Virginia, and if I don't get in there I will be blanketing the rest of the T14. I know a 167 puts me in the top 1% of black LSAT scores, but my GPA sucks, so I will be a toss up. What do you folks think?
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Re: The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread
« Reply #3682 on: November 10, 2009, 06:13:15 AM »
Sounds like you've done your research, so not much to add.  You should get into a t14.  UVA is a good school, and I love Charlottesville.  My only hesitation with them is that they're the only t14 (I think...definitely the only top 10) to allow employers to prescreen, which I think hurts their students.

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Re: The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread
« Reply #3683 on: November 10, 2009, 06:25:31 AM »
Sounds like you've done your research, so not much to add.  You should get into a t14.  UVA is a good school, and I love Charlottesville.  My only hesitation with them is that they're the only t14 (I think...definitely the only top 10) to allow employers to prescreen, which I think hurts their students.

Could you elaborate on the "prescreen", never heard about that and I am curious... Yes I love charlottesville as well. The reason I want UVA is b/c I have a family and my wife and I love the smaller town atmosphere as opposed to a big city grind for law school. I have a few friends in BLSA up there at UVA that I'm going to ask about the prescreening. I heard they got a new black dean of admissions too, I'm trying to met face to face with him next year and hand carry my app when the time comes. Apparently they are having a terrible time getting black males to choose UVA over Northwestern, Columbia, etc... we'll see. Thanks man.
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Re: The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread
« Reply #3684 on: November 10, 2009, 08:55:12 AM »
Sounds like you've done your research, so not much to add.  You should get into a t14.  UVA is a good school, and I love Charlottesville.  My only hesitation with them is that they're the only t14 (I think...definitely the only top 10) to allow employers to prescreen, which I think hurts their students.

Could you elaborate on the "prescreen", never heard about that and I am curious... Yes I love charlottesville as well. The reason I want UVA is b/c I have a family and my wife and I love the smaller town atmosphere as opposed to a big city grind for law school. I have a few friends in BLSA up there at UVA that I'm going to ask about the prescreening. I heard they got a new black dean of admissions too, I'm trying to met face to face with him next year and hand carry my app when the time comes. Apparently they are having a terrible time getting black males to choose UVA over Northwestern, Columbia, etc... we'll see. Thanks man.

Prescreening means an employer will set minimum qualifications that a student must meet before they can even interview with the firm. For example, a firm might say they'll only interview applicants with a GPA of 3.5 or higher. That means a lot of students are going to be excluded from interviewing with that firm. All the other T14 schools don't allow prescreening meaning students can interview with whichever firms they want. Thus, the matching process becomes more advantageous to the student.

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Re: The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread
« Reply #3685 on: November 10, 2009, 10:14:27 PM »
Right.  For instance, at Yale and several other schools, your interviews are determined solely by your rankings and a subsequent lottery.  In other words, you allocate points among your preferred firms, then a lottery is held among all the people who ranked the firm 1, then 2, then 3, etc. until all of the spots are filled.  Pretty easy to get several of your top-choice firms.  At UVA, the employer, not the student, decides whom to interview.

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Re: The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread
« Reply #3686 on: November 10, 2009, 10:56:07 PM »
Right.  For instance, at Yale and several other schools, your interviews are determined solely by your rankings and a subsequent lottery.  In other words, you allocate points among your preferred firms, then a lottery is held among all the people who ranked the firm 1, then 2, then 3, etc. until all of the spots are filled.  Pretty easy to get several of your top-choice firms.  At UVA, the employer, not the student, decides whom to interview.

Wouldn't this have the effect of giving UVA better OCI than peer schools like Penn or Michigan? Is there a trade off that theyre making that allows them to get better firms on campus/have big law hire more deeply into the classes?

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Re: The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread
« Reply #3687 on: November 10, 2009, 11:16:49 PM »
No.  For the most part (except for some regional firms in each area), the same firms go to all three of those.

But anyway, this is not to bash UVA.  You'd be fine there.  It's just an unnecessary policy that turns me off.

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Re: The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread
« Reply #3688 on: November 12, 2009, 05:45:01 AM »
Hello all. I have a 3.2ish gpa from a top school and a 170 lsat. Had about a 3.9 my senior year to bring my average up. My softs are pretty weak. Anyways, I applied this cycle, and I'm wondering what you think of my chances, specifically at:

UVA
PENN
COLUMBIA
HARVARD
NYU
GULC
UCLA

any insight would be great. thanks.

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Re: The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread
« Reply #3689 on: November 12, 2009, 06:10:17 AM »
You have a decent shot at all of those.  Harvard is the only questionable one b/c of the GPA, but I say your odds are greater than 50/50.