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Saint Willy

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Bad news for Kazaa users.
« on: February 07, 2005, 11:01:06 AM »
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/07/0646237&tid=158&tid=123&tid=95&tid=187

Court Docs Reveal Kazaa Logging User Downloads

The most explosive documents in the ongoing Kazaa court case have emerged today, including logs of discussions between parent company Sharman and the Estonian developer of the Kazaa Media Desktop. They include extraordinary admissions like: "Reporting will make Kazaa look like spyware, as soon as it becomes evident we record downloads and playbacks, users will flee to competitive networks" and then "One can argue that we have knowledge of copyrighted material being downloaded in our network and have to install filters. If we are reporting [gold] files, then technically we could do the same for every file." Finally, "RIAA [could] collect the IP addresses for everyone who has searched for or downloaded that file." Despite the Kazaa developer's concerns over these issues, Kazaa went ahead with the logging." (More below.)

Warne continues "APC Magazine journalist Garth Montgomery, who has covered every day of the trial in the Australian Federal Court, says: "In a nutshell, this has got to rate as the most explosive document revealed. It makes it damn near impossible to maintain the separation theory that Sharman and Altnet rely on in terms of business independence and technical infrastructure. The control they exercise over the system is complete." Montgomery has also scanned in all the documents and made them available in PDF format, including the confidential Kazaa purchase contract and technical specifications for the Kazaa Media Desktop."

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Re: Bad news for Kazaa users.
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2005, 03:35:42 PM »
kazaa blows ass, who still uses that outdated software??

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Re: Bad news for Kazaa users.
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2005, 04:58:50 PM »
kazaa blows ass, who still uses that outdated software??

Perhaps, but that's besides the point. The implications of Kazaa losing the case would be enormous. It would set a precedent whereby no P2P network could exist in the open. Granted, they'll find a way to keep things going, but it will be much more scattered and complex. Remember the post-Napster period, when every 16-yr-old kid was like, "what? I have to BUY a CD?" It took a while for P2P to recover from that and then the record labels started going after individual users. I see this as a continuous fight for P2P users, and the Kazaa case is a critical battle right now.

Bad news, indeed.

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Re: Bad news for Kazaa users.
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2005, 05:18:30 PM »
better stock up on that porn while it lasts. :P

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Re: Bad news for Kazaa users.
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2005, 06:28:00 PM »
Casca,

the point isn't "who still uses it", but "who has EVER used it".
If they have logged all activity, a lot of people are possibly in trouble.

Someone on slashdot did the calculations and figured out that it would cost them about 110k/year to log all the data. They were making decent coin and could have probably afforded that easily.

Just imagine if the RIAA or MPAA got a hold of all the records since Kazaa's inception.
Can anyone say... see you in court? (to 5 million people).

Of course they would still have to get names from the ISPs, but the RIAA has already had some luck.

P.S. Unfortunately this applies to users of Kazaa Lite and Linux Versions as the logging seems to have been done server-side.