Quote from: whiteytighty on February 04, 2005, 12:07:05 AMQuote from: Jennaye on February 03, 2005, 11:53:15 PMDamn I wish my mom had married a Mexican.Instead of just screwing the gardener when Dad's out of town?ahahahahai can see the personal statement now-- "i was raised white, but i don't much resemble my dad. the truth is i'm pretty sure my mom was having a thing with the poolboy. one of my first memories is daddy storming out of the house and throwing his gin and tonic at jose and telling him to take his pool-net and chlorine kit and his speedo and never set foot on our estate again. mum has a couple of pictures of jose, though, and when i ask how come i have dark hair she says something about my grandmother but she gets really PO'd when i press her with more questions. that's why i checked URM on my application."
Quote from: Jennaye on February 03, 2005, 11:53:15 PMDamn I wish my mom had married a Mexican.Instead of just screwing the gardener when Dad's out of town?
Damn I wish my mom had married a Mexican.
Thanks for the info all; this wasn't intended to be a question about/attack on AA; I was just curious what people thought were the reasons why people with scores similar to mine would be offered admission. My best guess was that they're URMs. But I think that's just my pessimism setting in...Ruskie girl.. what do you think set your application apart from the rest?
The "wish my mom had married a Mexican" comment was quite uncalled for, but I think she has a valid point. What can a plain old white American from the middle/lower middle class do to get in with a lower LSAT/GPA? What kind of extracurriculars, etc. are necessary to make up for lower scores? I have noticed as well that most of the people getting into the top schools without the high scores are URM (not passing any judgment on whether this is right or wrong here). If there are non URMs who are getting in with those scores, I would like to know what it was that sets them apart and makes up for the lower numbers. Ruskie, I know that you are white, but you aren't a regular white applicant, being from another country. That's not something a person can do for their application. You either have it or you don't.
I feel like the whole URM thing is blown out of porportion. Honestly I think a school would be silly to admit any student with scores well out of their standard range, regardless of their background. Those students might be totally fine and just test poorly, or they might not be able to keep up with the same rigors of the rest of their class. The adcomms have to weigh that point with any applicant they accept below their own standards. That being said, it is important to remember that people with different backgrounds do not have the same scores on average on a standardized test like the LSAT. Both the SAT and the LSAT have been rightly criticized for not being more inclusive to these types of applicants. Most people that write the tests are white males, so those are the people that score the best on the test, sometimes because of skill, sometimes because they generally have more access to study aids (like Kaplan, Princeton Review, etc. type courses or books). Considering that the average LSAT scores for some groups are lower, it does not seem unreasonable to have separate standards. Are there people who are URMs, have lots of money, went to stellar schools and could afford test prep? Of course there are. Do these people deserve different standards? Absolutely. Would anyone be considering this profession if they didn't have someone who had already come before them to prove it was possible? Think about how women felt when Sandra Day O'Connor became a Supreme Court Justice. Think about how Hispanics feel about Gonzales as the head of the Justice Department. We need role models for our children, people who can prove that you can be different and still succeed. Until we can create a testing process that truly treats everyone equally, adcomms will have to adapt their standards depending on the applicants. Besides, admitting students with diverse racial and socio-economic backgrounds leads to a richer discussion forum. Who wants to go to law school where everyone looks the same and agrees? How would you learn anything? There would be no dynamic discussion. URMs are vital to a legal community because they bring new ideas and perspectives sorely lacking in our current system. Law schools must strive to correct the deficiencies of these qualified people or the legal system will continue to work against URMs. Sometimes it's not just about needing to look PC, it's about actually trying to affect societal change. Ok enough out of me. I'm sure I will get bumped or humped or flamed or just generally mocked, but I've said my piece and I'm sticking to it.