If this sort of thing actually interests you academically, there are a lot of resources out there.I really like some of steve sailer's articles on the subject, to be honest. they are just so f-ing interesting. be forewarned-- his arguments can be kind of offensive if you aren't in the right mood. in fact, they can also be offensive if you are being perfectly open-minded.people who beat the sh*t out of this dead horse fall into one of a few categories. among which, some people are racists, some people are contrarian, and some people are genuinely interested in the differences between different types of people. i think steve sailer falls very strongly into the 'genuine interest' category, and that is why i like his blog. of course, he is a conservative, and therefore evil, so that is also something to consider upon deciding whether or not to read his stuff.and, finally, i am not saying that i agree with what he has to say on many subjects-- i'm just saying that it is interesting.anyway, his site's at www.isteve.com
It's time to consider that the white bogeyman is NOT responsible for the continuing poor performance of blacks in school.Consider reading this excellent article: http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/testing.htmInteresting facts:* Black children from the wealthiest families have mean SAT scores lower than white children from families below the poverty line.* 60% of blacks score below 145 on the LSAT.* Black children of parents with graduate degrees have lower SAT scores than white children of parents with a high-school diploma or less.From the article:Need a Doctor? Medical school admission is uncommonly competitive, there being many more applicants than slots. The competition is so intense that if black applicants were held to the same admission standards as whites and Asians, we would turn out almost no black physicians. We now have a double standard for admission to medical school brought about by affirmative action. As a result, two tiers of American physicians have emerged separated by race and ability. We have seen that law students admitted under affirmative action do not measure up to their white and Asian peers as law-school graduates. Can we say the same for doctors? We will quantify the performance gap for physicians. A benchmark for medical competence is the National Board of Medical Examiners (NBME) Exam Part I. Every medical student in the US must pass it to become a physician. Students take the exam two years before graduation. It is one of several ways the profession keeps itself honest. The most comprehensive study of NBME pass rates was published in 1994 by Beth Dawson et al (JAMA 1994 272:9 674-9). The authors examined the performance of every medical student in the US taking the June exam for the first time over the years 1986, 1987 and 1988. Dawson and her colleagues found that white medical students passed the NBME test at a rate of 87.7 percent and blacks at 48.9 percent. Again, using methods described in Appendix A, we found these pass rates equivalent to a black-white mean difference of 1.19 SD. Mean differences for the bar and NBME exams are conspicuously similar. The one-plus SD gap does not yield easily. Notably, when Dawson's study looked at entering students with similar academic credentials, the pass rates on the NBME exam were independent of race, pointing an accusing finger directly at affirmative action. For all its good intentions, affirmative action has created two levels of competence in American medicine, separated by a bit more than one standard deviation. When you are wheeled into the ER at 2:00 a.m., if you pray, pray that the black doctor who greets you entered medical school through the front door.
It's time to consider that the white bogeyman is NOT responsible for the continuing poor performance of blacks in school.Consider reading this excellent article: http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/testing.htmInteresting facts:* Black children from the wealthiest families have mean SAT scores lower than white children from families below the poverty line.* 60% of blacks score below 145 on the LSAT.* Black children of parents with graduate degrees have lower SAT scores than white children of parents with a high-school diploma or less."+++++++++++++++I am just going to say this:let's say you are right, and that statistically, black children have lower SAT scores even when their parents have degrees, and even when compared against white children who have parents w/o degrees.... that seems ridiculous!... but let's say it is so hypothetically...Can you just then infer that the reason is biological? What about culture? What about the expectations of the children's teachers? What about the additional pressures of being black? What about black youth culture (I mean maybe pressure among peers to underperform academcially)? Aren't there a lot of factors?
This is an interesting thread. I was getting so fed up with affirmative action that the only way I could justify it to myself is maybe the races that receive affirmative actiion (and I will leave that to you to define) are innately dumber than the other races. When people question an URM that gets into Havard 158 LSAT score or Yale with a 163 the response is always don't question unless you know the soft factors. I am sorry but unless you found a cure for cancer or won a bunch of olympic gold medals you shouldn't get into havard with a 150 something LSAT score. Unfortunately I know too many URM admitted to college with subpar grades and test scores that whenever I see an URM in my class I think oh thats the token AA student. I realize that is a horrible thing to think, especially since that it could be a student with a 4.0 GPA and excellent test scores. AA hurts the URM that deserve their spots.
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