Strange how the beginning of this thread was so congenial and now its just a judgementfest.Some minorities feel more comfortable with their own type.Some whites feel more comfortable with their own type.Why is it ok for minorities to feel this way but wrong for whites???Where's the consistency? Where's the integrity?
Quote from: angelus on August 21, 2005, 09:53:28 AMStrange how the beginning of this thread was so congenial and now its just a judgementfest.Some minorities feel more comfortable with their own type.Some whites feel more comfortable with their own type.Why is it ok for minorities to feel this way but wrong for whites???Where's the consistency? Where's the integrity?I heard the same BS when I was in high school... "Why don't we have an white student coalition?" "Why don't we have a white business student club?" BECAUSE, you're home! You're the norm! You've got priviledges! Minority students who want simply to be around their own kind are just as racist as a similar white person... but it's more complicated than that.... it's often the case that groups of people of similar origins get together to pool sympathy and create a safe environment for growth and progress... where people aren't over their shoulders judging them for, e.g., declaring URM disadvantages. I'm not a URM, but I am in a minority group. I understand that it's tough to appreciate how difficult little things become when prejudices run wild, because many people rarely face those prejudices. But sometimes you want to be in an atmosphere where privilidged people can't point at you, probe, judge and stereotype. It's nice to be among other "ethnic" folks, who can appreciate how truly NOT different you are. For F*ck's sake...
On the one hand, you want to claim that your presence is essential to desirable "educational objectives" and claim URM so you can get in despite being underqualified on the basis of diversity of character or intellect or god knows what the hell diversity actually means beyond a certain number of blacks and browns per class.
On the other hand, you want to hang out with other minorities so you can appreciate how "NOT different" you are? For F*ck's sake....Its so obvious that all other races have an inferiority complex, as groups, vis a vis the white race. Get over it, no thinking person thinks any race is inferior or superior to any other race.
I didn't claim URM. But I am in a minority group.
My presence is not essential to a desirable educational atmosphere... diversity of views are essential. Whether those diverse views inhere in racial, religious, gender, etc., differences. And, wow... you've showed yourself to be a remarkable racist. "Blacks and browns?"
Bearing in mind, there's a directly proportional relation of degrees of racism to degrees of stupidity.
Aside to the education question, and regarding the question of people being around others of their kind: Yeah, basically, you've been a case in point. You sound pretty hostile. How the hell can us "blacks and browns" get the message to you?
Until that message arrives, we'll try to hang out in groups or clubs with fellow people "like us" and with people who are not like us but understand racism. Why? Because of you. You sound dangerous and angry at us "blacks and browns". I'll be damned if I can't form a club where we discuss how awful it is to read messages like yours.
Most people who are judged negatively by virtue of their race, appearance, religion, etc., feel uncomfortable, offended, etc. Not inferior. If anything, there's a sense of intellectual superiority of victims of racism to their racist counterparts. You'd have to be stupid to be a racist. Period.
Get over it, no thinking person thinks any race is inferior or superior to any other race.
There are plenty of racists who are incredibly intelligent people.
As for your comment about being stupid and being racist, well, its just wishful thinking. There are plenty of racists who are incredibly intelligent people. You should not underestimate the power of instinct in the human race. Nor should you brush off those people who's views you find objectionable as "stupid."