Law School Discussion

grammer question- need help quick!

grammer question- need help quick!
« on: January 10, 2005, 09:27:22 PM »
Hey guys, just a quick grammer question.  If I am saying:
I truly had no idea what difficulties lied ahead of me....

Is it lied, lay, layed, etc??

Nothing sounds quite right.  Thank you so, so much in advance!

Re: grammer question- need help quick!
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2005, 09:33:17 PM »
Hey guys, just a quick grammer question.  If I am saying:
I truly had no idea what difficulties lied ahead of me....

Is it lied, lay, layed, etc??

Nothing sounds quite right.  Thank you so, so much in advance!

Maybe "I truly had no idea what difficulties would lie ahead of me"
 

Re: grammer question- need help quick!
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2005, 09:35:41 PM »
Skip the whole lay/lie thing altogether. "I did not know what difficulties the future would hold"

Re: grammer question- need help quick!
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2005, 09:37:47 PM »
My vote is for "lay" :) BTW, it is grammAr, just in case you use that in your p.s. or somewhere else on your app you might want it spelled right (not saying it to be snarky!).

Love,
Q

Re: grammer question- need help quick!
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2005, 09:38:06 PM »
Skip the whole lay/lie thing altogether. "I did not know what difficulties the future would hold"

I think this conveys a different meaning than the original sentence

Re: grammer question- need help quick!
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2005, 09:41:05 PM »
How does this sound?
When I accepted the position I truly had no idea what demands, time requirements, and difficulties would lie ahead of me.

Re: grammer question- need help quick!
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2005, 09:44:07 PM »
How does this sound?
When I accepted the position I truly had no idea what demands, time requirements, and difficulties would lie ahead of me.

Maybe I don't use that term very often and that's why it sounds awkward. I would have said "When I accepted the position, I had no idea what demands, time requirements and difficulties would be in store for me." But I am no writer, so maybe someone else can help here.

Re: grammer question- need help quick!
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2005, 09:47:17 PM »
How does this sound?
When I accepted the position I truly had no idea what demands, time requirements, and difficulties would lie ahead of me.

I think it sounds good. If you're unsure about it still, you could also try using "would lie in front of me"

! B L U E WAR R I O R..!

  • *****
  • 7267
  • "make a friend who was once a stranger" br.war.
    • View Profile
Re: grammer question- need help quick!
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2005, 09:53:52 PM »
Hey guys, just a quick grammer question. If I am saying:
I truly had no idea what difficulties lied ahead of me....

Is it lied, lay, layed, etc??

Nothing sounds quite right. Thank you so, so much in advance!

answer:

"i truly had no idea what difficulties lay ahead of me."



lie...directly in front of oneself
lay...in a greater distance from oneself

past thought predicting future predicaments...


so "lay" extends difficulties to mean in the future and onward from then.


{layed is not correct english.}=laid is

or like wildcataz says change the sentance so it is more succinct!


one way in the future to test a grammatical problem which seems to hurt your senses is to switch the words around...eg...


i truly had no idea what "chapters" lay ahead of me "to read".



ps. aye am a writer ;)


say what was written and if it still hurts your ears...re-work the sentance

good luck!

px.o.rsta.

TDPookie1

  • *****
  • 7929
  • the sugar cane is back!
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: grammer question- need help quick!
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2005, 11:12:47 PM »
lie...directly in front of oneself
lay...in a greater distance from oneself

you've gotta be shitting me.  you think grammar depends on the distance?  NO.

lay is a transitive verb, which means it takes a direct object ("now i lay me down to sleep" --> "me" is the direct object, the recipient of the action; "please lay my coat on the bed" --> "coat" is the direct object, the recipient of the action")

lie is an intransitive verb, which means it takes no direct object ("i'm going to lie down" --> "lie" doesn't need to take an object; it's already a complete phrase, so to speak).

here's the part where it gets confusing though:

the past tense of "lay" is "laid."  the past tense of "lie"?  "lay."  yup, the past tense of "lie" is the same as the present tense of "lay," and that's why these verbs get confused so often.

back to your original question, katie:

Hey guys, just a quick grammer question. If I am saying:
I truly had no idea what difficulties lied ahead of me....

Is it lied, lay, layed, etc??

Nothing sounds quite right. Thank you so, so much in advance!

you want the past tense, and you want the intransitive verb, because there is no direct object ("ahead of me" is a prepositional phrase).  so the correct answer (and for the correct reason):

"i truly had no idea what difficulties lay ahead of me."