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A change at Boalt

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A change at Boalt
« on: December 30, 2004, 08:13:57 AM »
Well my sickness is about to wear off so I am going to post my final (hopefully) "negative" postings. I know it is an LSD belief that Berkeley favors the GPA more than the LSAT (I have seen postings regarding numerical data and Ruskie's own admittance as evidence). I am wondering if people here are considering that maybe Boalt will change up its formula and start putting more emphasis on the LSAT. I am thinking this because of its drop on the USNews ranking. I know Boalt could careless about that, but a lot of the alums are getting pissed and the financial crisis in California is not getting better for education. To me, a signifigant rise in LSAT might help it in the rankings....at least short term. I guess I am thinking this way because I was considering applying there, but I am second guessing because each year a school can have a totally different admittance policy. Just some food for thought.

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Re: A change at Boalt
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2004, 08:43:35 AM »
Yeah, I feel like their new dean might be making them head that way. I don't think it'll be anything drastic, but they might adjust their 25th-75th range by, say, two points or so. We won't find out till later, though ...

Re: A change at Boalt
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2004, 10:18:14 AM »
They didn't change their index formula from this year to last year though. Wouldn't that indicate that they're still judging students numbers on the same basis?

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Re: A change at Boalt
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2004, 10:32:07 AM »
They didn't change their index formula from this year to last year though. Wouldn't that indicate that they're still judging students numbers on the same basis?

Not necessarily. I can't imagine that Boalt would go by index numbers (i.e not looking at ones falling below a certain threshold) anyway. But possible.

Re: A change at Boalt
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2004, 11:04:10 AM »
They didn't change their index formula from this year to last year though. Wouldn't that indicate that they're still judging students numbers on the same basis?

Not necessarily. I can't imagine that Boalt would go by index numbers (i.e not looking at ones falling below a certain threshold) anyway. But possible.

Why would they create a publicly available index formula if they're not using it?

maricutie

Re: A change at Boalt
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2004, 11:06:46 AM »
Why would they create a publicly available index formula if they're not using it?

Honestly, because Boalt is strange.  ???

Re: A change at Boalt
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2004, 11:20:35 AM »
Why would they create a publicly available index formula if they're not using it?

Honestly, because Boalt is strange.  ???

Sorry, I like my explanation of "they're using an index and it hasn't changed" better than  "Boalt is weird, the index means nothing" :)

maricutie

Re: A change at Boalt
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2004, 11:23:39 AM »
Why would they create a publicly available index formula if they're not using it?

Honestly, because Boalt is strange.  ???

No prob.  :) My answer is just based on a feeling of their admissions staff and the general attitude of Berkeley, rather than any kind of in-depth thought to the index number game. 

Sorry, I like my explanation of "they're using an index and it hasn't changed" better than  "Boalt is weird, the index means nothing" :)

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Re: A change at Boalt
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2004, 02:28:01 PM »
They didn't change their index formula from this year to last year though. Wouldn't that indicate that they're still judging students numbers on the same basis?

Not necessarily. I can't imagine that Boalt would go by index numbers (i.e not looking at ones falling below a certain threshold) anyway. But possible.

Why would they create a publicly available index formula if they're not using it?

when i go home, i'll look through my old e-mails and see what boalt said when i asked what they do with index scores.  half the schools i asked said "we don't use index scores in our admissions process," and i only asked the ones with a released formula.  as an applicant, i didn't want to be argumentative, of course. 

they could just use it for sorting and nothing more.  no decisions made based on index score, but who reads your file might be affected.  maybe they know they want to have approximately X number from the lower scores or something?  eh.  i don't think there's a way for us to know unless we ever sit on the admissions committee, at which point we won't be able to tell anyone anyway.

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Re: A change at Boalt
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2004, 02:41:56 PM »
Hey Pookie,
Let me know what you discover from your Boalt stuff please. I am hoping that their attitude might be a help to this numerically challenged applicant.