i'm not sure why you selected just males, but according to those stats whites are terribly underrepresented. also, you're citing BA's and above, we're talking specifically JD's. i'm not saying your sample might not be relevant, i'm saying i have no way of knowing. you'd be better off citing statistics that are 100% on point.anyway UMHBmom 's point was (and she'll correct me if i'm wrong, and then it will be my point) is that those categories of dividing people up are political categories. if you dont want to call them political, use a different term, but they are not at all the best way to divide up population. immigrants, for example, cannot be said to have adequate representation simply because whites might be adequately represented and the immigrants in discussion have a white complexion.
What does it serve a Pakistani immigrant if there are proportionally more Pakistani with advanced degrees if 98% of them are doctors and engineers and he's sitting in jail? I'm talking SPECIFICALLY about the legal community. Lawyers are defenders of the people and definers of the culture, and as such special emphasis should be placed on equal representation. I'm not confused in the way that you think I am.
I will admit to being confused by your argument. On the one hand, you say that URM status should be awarded only to those who meet three criteria: they must be culturally distinct, socioeconomically disadvantaged, and fighting racial bias. When I point out to you that Asians fit this criteria, you say that there is an added element: a clearly-defined URM is one who dodges bullets while crossing the street in inner-city Chicago. So then I'll add that the Pakistani now must contend with the current wave of xenophobia washing across the nation. His mosque is bombed and he homeschools his kids because they get beat up at school. Yet he STILL does not qualify because he fails your litmus test: he is not black or hispanic. My point was never to take anything away from black and Hispanic applicants, but to suggest that lack of sufficient representation afflicts people who belong to minority cultures within majority races, and the needs of these people are not being addressed.
Percentages of BA or higher Degree Holders by Race (for males)(2002)Hispanic males: 8.6%Asian Males: 42.3%White Males: 27.4Black Males: 13.1%Given those numbers, do you continue to think that Asians and Whites deserve the benefits of AA?
russians are not URM because they are white. AA is intended to help those that were beaten up by the system to the extent that their community never recovered ie Mexicans and Blacks. So Asian communities recovered as did Jewish and are not considered URM. Immigrants would not be considered URM because the US did not opress their people...doesnt that make sense?
Quote from: bluntsfortiesandbitches on December 26, 2004, 12:02:11 AMrussians are not URM because they are white. AA is intended to help those that were beaten up by the system to the extent that their community never recovered ie Mexicans and Blacks. So Asian communities recovered as did Jewish and are not considered URM. Immigrants would not be considered URM because the US did not opress their people...doesnt that make sense?1950's ring a bell?