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Re: another undergrad (screw the grad degree)
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2004, 03:37:23 PM »
Just because LSAC doesn't count it in their UG GPA doesn't mean a second Bachelors or Grad degree doesn't get looked at.  Schools get all the transcripts as well as the LSAC number, so they can see what you did where, the trend in the grades, etc.

As for the high Grad. GPA after a low UGPA, I'd attach an addendum explaining the lack of maturity, no focus (leaving out the partying) shown in th UGPA has been outgrown; the Grad. degree GPA is proof of how serious you have become.  It wont be the first time a school has seen that. 

But to do it just to get your grades up to go to law school seems a bit much.  Law School costs enough without adding the cost of another degree just to get in.  Better off getting the LSAT up or going anywhere you can for a year and transferring.

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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2004, 05:33:01 PM »
you'd have to be on crack to get another undergraduate degree.

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Please explain. If you have absolutely no idea about anything in field X then you aren't really qualified to jump into a Master's degree in X. If you want to penetrate into field X you will have to begin with a bachelor's degree.

You'd have to be on crack to jump in over your head in a Master's degree program in field X when you know absolutely nothing about X.

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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2004, 05:45:25 PM »
you'd have to be on crack to get another undergraduate degree.

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Please explain. If you have absolutely no idea about anything in field X then you aren't really qualified to jump into a Master's degree in X. If you want to penetrate into field X you will have to begin with a bachelor's degree.

You'd have to be on crack to jump in over your head in a Master's degree program in field X when you know absolutely nothing about X.


it depends on how divergent the fields are.  MBA and JD programs are of course the extreme which one could argue require minimal skills from an undergrad (if any).

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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2004, 06:20:45 PM »
you'd have to be on crack to get another undergraduate degree.

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Please explain. If you have absolutely no idea about anything in field X then you aren't really qualified to jump into a Master's degree in X. If you want to penetrate into field X you will have to begin with a bachelor's degree.

You'd have to be on crack to jump in over your head in a Master's degree program in field X when you know absolutely nothing about X.


it depends on how divergent the fields are.  MBA and JD programs are of course the extreme which one could argue require minimal skills from an undergrad (if any).

In my case, i knew nothing at all about computers before I got my undergrad in CS. Didn't even know what a mouse was. So, jumping straight into a Master's degree in Comp Sci would have been ridiculous.

There are certainly situations where the reasonable thing to do is pursue a second undergrad degree.

By the way, when getting your 2nd undergrad you just have to satisfy the requirments of the major. You don't have to take all the core courses over again like History, Government, etc. etc. When I got my second bachelor's degree in Comp Sci I just took computer science classes and, voila, 2.5 years later i had a bachelor's in Comp Sci.

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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2004, 06:27:17 PM »
hey bigtex, my statement was not in reference to you: in your situation it appears that getting another undergraduate degree was appropriate.

i inferred from the op that he or she was considering the idea of getting another undergraduate degree in order to boost the lsac gpa, which, it seems, would not happen anyway.  the idea of spending four more years and countless dollars to raise one's gpa is crazy to me. 

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« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2004, 07:22:14 PM »
i inferred from the op that he or she was considering the idea of getting another undergraduate degree in order to boost the lsac gpa, which, it seems, would not happen anyway.  the idea of spending four more years and countless dollars to raise one's gpa is crazy to me. 

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Agreed. If raising the UGPA is the goal in pursuing a 2nd undergrad it's pointless. One's UGPA is written in stone. A 2nd undergrad will do nothing to alter it.

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Re: another undergrad (screw the grad degree)
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2004, 07:34:41 PM »
yes, exactly.. as I already have a masters, it was my belief that since it had minimal impact in the "numbers GPA/LSAT game", I could play the gamer by getting another undergrad or taking other undergrad classes.

just another one of my 'file in the nice try dipsh*t' thoughts category.

on a brighter note, I noticed some classes I took at a community college in the summers really boosted the GPA.  Can you say Calculus...5 credits at a CC (earning an A)!! (vs 4 at the university, earning a B)  Damn, if I could do it over, Id take as many science classes at a CC as possible.

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Re: another undergrad (screw the grad degree)
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2004, 07:59:57 PM »
My first degree was a double major in math/phil (gpa 3.87). I then got a 2nd bachelor's degree in comp sci (gpa 3.82).

To those posting above that a 2nd bachelor's degree would hurt you: Michigan didn't seem to hold it against me.
I don't know that it'd hurt...I just didn't see it being much of a help...esp. if the point was just to get another degree to get another degree.

Getting another degree for a reason, as you did, is a little different.