Just an opinion here-Commonsense seems to dictate that their are not that many poor and underpriviliged kids attempting to enter college, much less law school.The tragedy of being poor and underprivileged is not being unable to enter college; it's the sad fact that many of them lose the motivation to go to college somewhere along the rough course of their life. When you have to help support your family or take care of your child, something like college doesn't even register in their universe. AA is a great thing; but what would be better is more effective programs that effect poor and undprivileged children (of all races) when they're young; psychology, after all, tells us that this is when we can influence them the most.I've taught multitudes of poor and underprivileged students in high school; the majority of them could receive a full scholarship to Harvard and waste it. The potential for intelligence is there, but the drive, motivation, and dedication are not.Let's nurture those qualities when they're young instead of handing them a gift they're ill-equipped to open when they're older.Just my two cents.
i think what people have been trying to say is there is nothing in SES that would exclude race as a factor. SES = c1*lsat + c2*gpa + c3*economic_background + c4*ethnic + c5*racial + c6*URM + cn*(FACTOR(n))In a sense, SES is a more general theory that provides the same advantages as AA but it is less exclusionary. The reality is the current AA system does operate this way, with c6 having a larger value. The problem is when the official policy states AA is different than SES, people of course are going to differ over its fairness.
Yeesss! Finally an AA post I can agree with. Although I'm a little undecided so far on completely eliminating all degrees of race-based AA, because I simply don't know what it would do to minority representation. From the Mich case there's a small handful of black applicants in the country who have both a 3.5+ GPA and an lsat of 165+. The vast majority of these are probably coming in from well-off backgrounds; eliminate race-based AA and you have half as many. SES-based AA is awesome, in theory, and I agree 99% that it should constitute the majority of AA policies ...but, reiterating sxysgy's post, most people who would be in the position to benefit from SES-AA never even get to the position where AA would be an issue (i.e. drop out before senior year, or never have the grades to consider college). Also in theory -- and in an ideal world -- much of this AA melee would be solved if only more money was directed to these poor schools. BTW, anybody else feel like you could relate to Pharoah's post because of a common minority status? Not that I criticize any white persons' argument out of hand, but when a minority posts up a critique of AA I feel like there's a good chance he or she knows what's really going on.