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Re: USC 1L Answers Questions
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2008, 08:12:49 PM »
I'd also be curious to hear what people thought of their visits. My property class on Fridays seems to get a lot of prospective students.

Thanks again waitlist, for all of the info. It's been extremely helpful. Like you, I would be curious to hear from the students who were able to attend one of the ASWs.

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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2008, 10:09:21 PM »
I'm curious about what happened to your waitlists last year.

Did you just give up on them, or did you try and hold out for very long?

Also, were you a Texas resident during your application cycle?

Sorry this isn't about USC  :P

Do you recall when you heard back from UT?

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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2008, 03:07:37 AM »
Thank you for the great feedback on the law school. I went to SC for undergrad and it increasingly looks like i will be coming back in the fall. Couple of quick questions:

1) What is the curve at USC? and how has it affected your grades?

2) What does your typical week schedule look like? (hours reading/studying etc)

3) Do you have any insight as to how difficult it is to obtain biglaw jobs in LA coming out of USC?

4) Im thinking about living in the Medici in downtown LA for my first year...do u think commuting from downtown will be an issue for a 1L?

5) Any idea if UCLA has a curve?? just curious

Thanks again in advance

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Re: USC 1L Answers Questions
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2008, 08:07:45 AM »
Did you just give up on them, or did you try and hold out for very long?

My LSN is actually pretty detailed on this, but it really varied. I didn't even turn in the response card for BC. I turned in a response thing for GW, but I never wrote a follow up letter or anything that might have helped me get in. This is the same with UCLA because I had visited USC and loved it, and I didn't think I'd be able to make another LA visit to change my mind should I get in.

I tried somewhat hard for Cornell, Texas and Michigan. Cornell I sent a couple of letters of continued interest. Texas I sent a couple of more detailed letters of continued interest. Michigan I tried so very hard to get off the wait list. Multiple continued letters of interest plus I talked to them about deferring for a year and starting this coming summer if it'd get me off the wait list. I think this worked for someone on here last year, but it did not work for me. That said, Michigan was by far the best school I worked with. Sometimes I have regrets about not going to Texas (that's where all my family is) but this is pretty rare. But the only school that I still would have made the same decision based on what I know now is Michigan.

Also, were you a Texas resident during your application cycle?

Yes I am as well as a four time, three generation law school legacy (they must have gotten tired of us!) I didn't take it personally, but the same isn't true of my grandfather who I believe took them out of his will. Ah gramps.

Do you recall when you heard back from UT?

They sent an update in... July I think. And then told me they had filled their spots late August.

I'll be at the ASD in April, do you know much about it? I've been trying to get info from USC, but they haven't gotten back to me yet.

USC runs a slick, slick admit day. By far the best done of the schools I visited. It's also the longest that I attended which can get a bit boring with all the panels and speakers, but welcome to law school. You get served a three-course meal with white table clothes and stuff and there's an open bar where you can talk to professors and stuff at the end. These two things are actually fairly common occurrences.

1) What is the curve at USC? and how has it affected your grades?

The curve is set at 3.2, but it appears the professors have just about as much leeway as they want with the deviation. Some profs had virtually everyone between a 3.1 and a 3.3 while others had only a couple within that range.

2) What does your typical week schedule look like? (hours reading/studying etc)
This varies, but whether or not you have a writing assignment due and whether finals are close or not really determines the schedule (I believe this is universal across law schools). For example, I'm answering questions because I have an appeals brief due in a couple of hours.

Work isn't terrible. You can certainly do all the reading very quickly (all except con law which is voluminous), but that doesn't necessarily assure a great understanding of it. I'd say if I'm doing well, I do about 2-3 hours of reading every day. When finals approach, I outline by hand (this is uncommon) and it takes me a long time, usually a pretty full weekend day per class.

3) Do you have any insight as to how difficult it is to obtain biglaw jobs in LA coming out of USC?

Easy. Or at least that's the way it appears. As I mentioned before, there are 2Ls who are doing big law who have told me they weren't in the top half of their class. If you have a boring/abrasive personality, it will be significantly harder to get big law.

4) Im thinking about living in the Medici in downtown LA for my first year...do u think commuting from downtown will be an issue for a 1L?

Commuting from downtown will not be an issue at all. I'm moving to the Orsini next year which is a sister complex to the Medici. It's a nice place.

5) Any idea if UCLA has a curve?? just curious

Yes it does. I don't know what the curve is set at, but it definitely has one. This is true of virtually all law schools not named Boalt or Yale.

Re: USC 1L Answers Questions
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2008, 08:12:30 AM »
It's definitely a lot worse for females, I agree.  But the neighborhood really does suck.  I was watching an episode of Studio 60 and they were talking to a character who was supposed to be from a really dangerous gang-ridden area.  DL Hughley asked him, "So what neighborhood are you from."  His response, "I live near USC." 

The south of USC is literally SOUTH CENTRAL.  North of USC is a different story, but there's still constantly helicopters flying around and crime.  Go to UCLA and live in Westwood.  You'll be happier.

And I am not from middle America.  I'm from New Orleans, which is again, thanks to Katrina, the murder capital of the world. 

Also, did I mention the Pac-10 and the trojans are overrated?

unbelievable UCLA trolling.  are you a UCLA adcomm?

Thanks for all the awesome feedback waitlist!

I have no affiliation with UCLA.  I go to a law school located nowhere near California.  BUT UCLA is 1) similarly, if not higher, ranked.  And 2) basically in Bel-Air.  Why the hell not go there instead.?

Re: USC 1L Answers Questions
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2008, 04:14:01 PM »
I thought you might be a good person to ask this to since you are familiar with both University of Michigan and SC.

For somebody that is 99% sure about working in LA, would you take SC with a 1/2ride over Michigan? I have visited both schools and liked the student populations, the academics opportunities and was impressed with their general atmosphere. I guess the major consideration I'm debating is which school places me better in LA's top firms and whether with the additional seventy thousand I would have to pay, Michigan would still outweigh SC. Any thoughts?

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Re: USC 1L Answers Questions
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2008, 04:19:02 PM »
whats uuuuuup 119! hows life in LA? ... probably a lot sunnier than Boston...
What are you up to this summer?

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Re: USC 1L Answers Questions
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2008, 04:25:24 PM »
I thought you might be a good person to ask this to since you are familiar with both University of Michigan and SC.

For somebody that is 99% sure about working in LA, would you take SC with a 1/2ride over Michigan? I have visited both schools and liked the student populations, the academics opportunities and was impressed with their general atmosphere. I guess the major consideration I'm debating is which school places me better in LA's top firms and whether with the additional seventy thousand I would have to pay, Michigan would still outweigh SC. Any thoughts?

First a disclaimer: I come from a fair amount of money, and I'll be able to graduate with very little debt. This may color my decision making process.

USC is a great place, and I will encourage people to come to it. However, I would go to Michigan if I were you unless you plan on doing something like public interest or really, really don't like the cold. USC places extremely well in LA, but you'll be at no disadvantage within LA from Michigan, and should you decide to go elsewhere, the degree travels better.

So that's my advice. I don't think you can go wrong either way, and I love my school. But if the choice were mine, I'd pick Michigan.

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Re: USC 1L Answers Questions
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2008, 08:21:24 AM »
i'll bump this. By the way, if you're coming to admit day, go to the diversity thing. I didn't go last year, but my friends who did said that it was a lot of fun and not just for minority students. Also, I'd encourage you to stay for the open bar thing afterwards on Saturday. Since USC tells all the students via email that there's an open bar event at that time, it's probably your best opportunity to ask current students questions. I also talked to a couple of the professors, and you can see how easy and comfortable it is to talk to the majority of them.

Unfortunately, I'm flying home Friday after class, so I'll miss those of you coming for the big admit day.

Re: USC 1L Answers Questions
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2008, 02:00:37 PM »
How difficult is it to land a nice job in DC/NYC market if you were so inclined?