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allen3cm

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3rd and 4th tier - how are they ranked within?
« on: March 28, 2008, 10:14:59 AM »

Here's the actual rankings since released this morning on the break between 2nd and 3rd tier: 

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/grad/law/search/page+5

In the past, haven't the 3rd and 4th tiers been organized alphabetically?  I don't see any indication of this and was wondering what the method is to their situation compared to other schools.  Surely, it can't be randomly. 

Does anyone think that, despite the omission of scores, the schools are ranked according to those scores.  Is University of Maine ranked better than Michigan State and Quinnipiac?  In other words, do we now actually have a list of 1-180?

I was curious if anyone actually knew and am eager for speculation otherwise.

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Re: 3rd and 4th tier - how are they ranked within?
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2008, 12:43:53 PM »
I think they do have the 3rd tier and 4th tier ranked!  For example, two of last year's 3rd tiers, Southern Ill and Southwestern are the top 4th tier schools, listed as one of the first schools in the tier 4th rankings.  In the tier 3, newbies like Chapman are on the bottom.  So it does make sense that they have actually ranked them without assigning a score.

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Re: 3rd and 4th tier - how are they ranked within?
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2008, 03:03:44 PM »
The 3rd and 4th Tier schools don't have scores and the methodology description says they are still listed alphabetically (although they aren't). They appear to be grouped together as in the past.

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Re: 3rd and 4th tier - how are they ranked within?
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2008, 03:33:46 PM »
They appear to be ranked.   :o

You click "Alphabetical" and they are ranked alphabetically.

You click "by rank" and they go into a random order that clearly demonstrates the better perceived schools at the top and the less well perceived at the bottom.

Cooley is at the bottom of Tier 4 and Southwestern is at the top of Tier 4, for example.

No doubt, you have a rank for all tiers now, just not numbered for Tiers 3 and 4 but the relative rank is SURELY apparent.

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Re: 3rd and 4th tier - how are they ranked within?
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2008, 03:38:04 PM »
OK, you click "By rank" or "Name" to sort.

When you click "By rank" they sort by rank for sure.

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Re: 3rd and 4th tier - how are they ranked within?
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2008, 04:23:50 PM »
OK, you click "By rank" or "Name" to sort.

When you click "By rank" they sort by rank for sure.

After playing with the new format, it looks like you are right. Although there isn't a score, they seem to be ordered fairly close to perception.

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Re: 3rd and 4th tier - how are they ranked within?
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2008, 04:48:46 PM »
I think they do have the 3rd tier and 4th tier ranked!  For example, two of last year's 3rd tiers, Southern Ill and Southwestern are the top 4th tier schools, listed as one of the first schools in the tier 4th rankings.  In the tier 3, newbies like Chapman are on the bottom.  So it does make sense that they have actually ranked them without assigning a score.

Hmm, on my view the University of North Dakota tops tier 4.

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Re: 3rd and 4th tier - how are they ranked within?
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2008, 04:56:16 PM »
This would seem to be a fairly major oversight by USNWR. 

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Re: 3rd and 4th tier - how are they ranked within?
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2008, 06:37:57 PM »
If they really are ranked this way, then USF's drop seems more precipitous.
Homerun:
Strikeout: BC, ASU, Hastings, UVA, Davis, W&M
3-2 Count: USF, Chapman
Batters' Box: Everywhere Else

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Re: 3rd and 4th tier - how are they ranked within?
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2008, 07:18:21 PM »
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