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mason123

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T1? T2?
« on: March 27, 2008, 11:08:34 PM »
Are all schools in top 100 considered Tier 1? I thought the first 50 were Tier 1, and the second half were Tier 2 institutions?

According to the site of USNews, Hofstra is Tier 1?

Please clarify, thanks!

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Re: T1? T2?
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2008, 11:16:37 PM »
Yeah, T1 = top 50, T2 = 51-100.

I guess USNews made a mistake in the example you provided.

mason123

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Re: T1? T2?
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2008, 11:35:53 PM »
Are you sure? It seems like a rather glaring mistake.

J.A.A.N.

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Re: T1? T2?
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2008, 09:05:31 AM »
I was wondering about that too. For some reason all top 100 (104) are listed as Tier 1.

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/grad/law/search/c_final_tier+1


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Re: T1? T2?
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2008, 01:17:20 PM »
It has always been this way.

USWNR has three tiers: called T1, T3 and T4.

Because of the obviously missing T2 and the nice even number of schools in the top tier, law students, profs and anyone else who give a crap about this stuff add an imaginary T2 to the mix.

So, while TECHNICALLY the University of Louisville (Brandeis) is a tier 1 school, no one (except maybe U of L students themselves) would consider them that.


No it hasn't.  In fact, when USNews first started ranking law schools (back in 1987) it only ranked 20 schools TOTAL.  That's why a lot of people still refer to the top 20 (or top 14 sometimes) as the first tier.

As US News's rankings became more respected and more widely used, they expanded the number of schools that they rank to include regional schools, in addition to the 15-20 national schools. 
In:  UF, Tulane, FSU($), Miami($$$), Stetson, Oregon($)
Out: Washington and Lee
W/L: Arizona
Decision: UF c/o 2011!

mason123

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Re: T1? T2?
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2008, 03:00:46 PM »
So what's your point? Are the top 100 Tier 1 or what?

billymahogany

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Re: T1? T2?
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2008, 03:28:21 PM »
So what's your point? Are the top 100 Tier 1 or what?

There is no tier 1 or 2 anymore--instead USNews has "The Top 100 Schools" and "Tier 3" and "Tier 4".

In:  UF, Tulane, FSU($), Miami($$$), Stetson, Oregon($)
Out: Washington and Lee
W/L: Arizona
Decision: UF c/o 2011!

mason123

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Re: T1? T2?
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2008, 03:39:07 PM »
According to US News, the top 100 is Tier 1. It says it right there in their rankings system.

billymahogany

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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2008, 03:44:27 PM »
According to US News, the top 100 is Tier 1. It says it right there in their rankings system.

Yeah, but along the side of their page it says this:

"by tier
Law School Tier

    * Top 100 (104)
    * Tier 3 (37)
    * Tier 4 (42)"

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/grad/law/search

I refuse to call Stetson tier 1, even though USNews seems to want to have its cake and eat it too.


In:  UF, Tulane, FSU($), Miami($$$), Stetson, Oregon($)
Out: Washington and Lee
W/L: Arizona
Decision: UF c/o 2011!

mason123

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Re: T1? T2?
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2008, 03:54:07 PM »
I'm quite happy Hofstra was moved up into "Tier 1" or Top 100. Makes me feel special I was wait listed there now. I'm still waiting on my wait list at Seton Hall though, which also moved up in rank.