I don't get why but People seem to be able to sort out Michigan vs MSU. but for some reason the UPenn vs Penn State things still confuses the "best and brightest."
im confused. doesn't upenn = penn state?
UPenn=quakers, ivy league, private, philadelphia
Penn State=nittany lions, Big(11)Ten, public, university park
i really don't get how that can be mixed up.