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Which would you choose if Seton Hall was 5k cheaper?

Rutgers-Newark
 9 (64.3%)
Seton Hall
 5 (35.7%)

Total Members Voted: 13

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vyper

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I saw two old threads on the topic, with Rutgers getting the vote of confidence in 2005, but Seton Hall getting the more recent vote (2007). Seton Hall's got a terrible rap on another unmentionable forum, but has risen in the rankings while Rutgers has declined significantly since the late 90s. I'm looking for feedback specifically if the costs were slanted in favor of Seton Hall to the tune of $5k less per year.

I found these private practice job statistics, and despite the 2007 post recommending Seton Hall, it appears Rutgers' placement is better. However, as I believe something like only 50% of the class responds, not sure how valuable the data is as it is probably highly manipulated. My goal is private practice in either mid or big law, preferably in New Jersey, followed by New York.

Seton Hall - 39% of the class is in private practice.
26.47% of the 39% are at firms of 2 to 10 attorneys with an average salary of $53,191
16.18% of the 39% are at firms of 11 to 25 attorneys with an average salary of $62,841
5.88% of the 39% are at firms of 26 to 50 attorneys with an average salary of $73,125
8.09% of the 39% are at firms of 51 to 100 attorneys with an average salary of $85,136
6.62% of the 39% are at firms of 101 to 250 attorneys with an average salary of $107,167
7.35% of the 39% are at firms of 251 to 500 attorneys with an average salary of $133,000
9.56% of the 39% are at firms of 500+ attorneys with an average salary of $135,385
18.38% of the 39% did not specify the size of the firm
1.47% of the 39% are self-employed

Rutgers-Newark - 45.1% of the class is in private practice.
11.96% are at firms of 2 to 10 attorneys with an average salary of $62,400
3.26% are at firms of 11 to 25 attorneys with an average salary of $77,500
14.13% are at firms of 26 to 50 attorneys with an average salary of $88,231
10.87% are at firms of 51 to 100 attorneys with an average salary of $87,333
25% are at firms of 101 to 250 attorneys with an average salary of $122,474
8.7% are at firms of 251 to 500 attorneys with an average salary of $140,000
25% are at firms of 500+ attorneys with an average salary of $141,739

Thanks for your help!

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Re: Rutgers-Newark (costing 10k per year) vs. Seton Hall (costing 5k per year)
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2008, 01:07:22 AM »
I would definitely say RU, but lets see what others say...

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Re: Rutgers-Newark (costing 10k per year) vs. Seton Hall (costing 5k per year)
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2008, 01:52:48 AM »
RU-N.  If you do a search on this forum, there are a lot of people who have bad things to say about Seton Hall.  The dean, especially, gets it bad, even being compared to a used car salesman.

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Re: Rutgers-Newark (costing 10k per year) vs. Seton Hall (costing 5k per year)
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2008, 09:13:45 AM »
Is Camden an option? Though only ranked marginally higher than Newark in the US News rankings, from what I hear from my friends in NY and NJ it is seen as far superior to Newark.

Take a careful look at how many people report stats for these two schools, and think hard about what you want to do with a law degree. If you want biglaw, you need to be in the top 5-10% or better of your class to get a look.

For a skeptical look at SHU, read this article, which features an interview with an SHU alum
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119040786780835602.html
In: Emory, Illinois, Minnesota, DePaul
Dinged: Chicago
Hold: BC
Waiting: Fordham, Vanderbilt, WUSTL

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Re: Rutgers-Newark (costing 10k per year) vs. Seton Hall (costing 5k per year)
« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2008, 09:48:49 AM »
I see some votes for Seton Hall now... any reasoning or other opinions?