Quote from: Ender Wiggin on January 16, 2008, 11:38:31 PMQuote from: theflyingmachine on January 16, 2008, 11:34:50 PMQuote from: Ender Wiggin on January 16, 2008, 11:33:19 PMQuote from: theflyingmachine on January 16, 2008, 11:20:00 PMQuote from: Ender Wiggin on January 16, 2008, 11:18:01 PMQuote from: theflyingmachine on January 16, 2008, 11:15:03 PMIf schools want to select their applicants arbitrarily, they're free to do so. However, it's unfair that they should place such weight on GPA/LSAT combo for one portion of their applicants and not another.170+ should absolutely have the best shot at Yale. The LSAT is the best predictor we have for law school success.And complaining about AA is the best predictor we have that someone is an insecure tool. I fail to see how desiring a greater emphasis on proven predictors for law school success and less emphasis on skin pigmentation makes me insecure.They aren't proven predictors. The LSAT has the best correlation we have to first-year success in law school, but it is still a poor correlation. Heart transplants are the best treatment for heart failure, but they don't work every time. We should probably stop performing them.Apples are red. Oranges are orange. We should probably learn to differentiate between the two. Giving the LSAT to someone who needs a heart transplant probably won't save their life. Perhaps you missed my point. Is there a better predictor for 1L success than the LSAT?
Quote from: theflyingmachine on January 16, 2008, 11:34:50 PMQuote from: Ender Wiggin on January 16, 2008, 11:33:19 PMQuote from: theflyingmachine on January 16, 2008, 11:20:00 PMQuote from: Ender Wiggin on January 16, 2008, 11:18:01 PMQuote from: theflyingmachine on January 16, 2008, 11:15:03 PMIf schools want to select their applicants arbitrarily, they're free to do so. However, it's unfair that they should place such weight on GPA/LSAT combo for one portion of their applicants and not another.170+ should absolutely have the best shot at Yale. The LSAT is the best predictor we have for law school success.And complaining about AA is the best predictor we have that someone is an insecure tool. I fail to see how desiring a greater emphasis on proven predictors for law school success and less emphasis on skin pigmentation makes me insecure.They aren't proven predictors. The LSAT has the best correlation we have to first-year success in law school, but it is still a poor correlation. Heart transplants are the best treatment for heart failure, but they don't work every time. We should probably stop performing them.Apples are red. Oranges are orange. We should probably learn to differentiate between the two. Giving the LSAT to someone who needs a heart transplant probably won't save their life.
Quote from: Ender Wiggin on January 16, 2008, 11:33:19 PMQuote from: theflyingmachine on January 16, 2008, 11:20:00 PMQuote from: Ender Wiggin on January 16, 2008, 11:18:01 PMQuote from: theflyingmachine on January 16, 2008, 11:15:03 PMIf schools want to select their applicants arbitrarily, they're free to do so. However, it's unfair that they should place such weight on GPA/LSAT combo for one portion of their applicants and not another.170+ should absolutely have the best shot at Yale. The LSAT is the best predictor we have for law school success.And complaining about AA is the best predictor we have that someone is an insecure tool. I fail to see how desiring a greater emphasis on proven predictors for law school success and less emphasis on skin pigmentation makes me insecure.They aren't proven predictors. The LSAT has the best correlation we have to first-year success in law school, but it is still a poor correlation. Heart transplants are the best treatment for heart failure, but they don't work every time. We should probably stop performing them.
Quote from: theflyingmachine on January 16, 2008, 11:20:00 PMQuote from: Ender Wiggin on January 16, 2008, 11:18:01 PMQuote from: theflyingmachine on January 16, 2008, 11:15:03 PMIf schools want to select their applicants arbitrarily, they're free to do so. However, it's unfair that they should place such weight on GPA/LSAT combo for one portion of their applicants and not another.170+ should absolutely have the best shot at Yale. The LSAT is the best predictor we have for law school success.And complaining about AA is the best predictor we have that someone is an insecure tool. I fail to see how desiring a greater emphasis on proven predictors for law school success and less emphasis on skin pigmentation makes me insecure.They aren't proven predictors. The LSAT has the best correlation we have to first-year success in law school, but it is still a poor correlation.
Quote from: Ender Wiggin on January 16, 2008, 11:18:01 PMQuote from: theflyingmachine on January 16, 2008, 11:15:03 PMIf schools want to select their applicants arbitrarily, they're free to do so. However, it's unfair that they should place such weight on GPA/LSAT combo for one portion of their applicants and not another.170+ should absolutely have the best shot at Yale. The LSAT is the best predictor we have for law school success.And complaining about AA is the best predictor we have that someone is an insecure tool. I fail to see how desiring a greater emphasis on proven predictors for law school success and less emphasis on skin pigmentation makes me insecure.
Quote from: theflyingmachine on January 16, 2008, 11:15:03 PMIf schools want to select their applicants arbitrarily, they're free to do so. However, it's unfair that they should place such weight on GPA/LSAT combo for one portion of their applicants and not another.170+ should absolutely have the best shot at Yale. The LSAT is the best predictor we have for law school success.And complaining about AA is the best predictor we have that someone is an insecure tool.
If schools want to select their applicants arbitrarily, they're free to do so. However, it's unfair that they should place such weight on GPA/LSAT combo for one portion of their applicants and not another.170+ should absolutely have the best shot at Yale. The LSAT is the best predictor we have for law school success.
Quote from: theflyingmachine on January 16, 2008, 11:44:10 PMMiss Beesly, your GPA is quite good and your LSAT is at least above the 95th percentile. Why did you ignore my response to this statement?Which statement? This^one? You're right, my numbers are decent enough, but don't forget my amazing ECs, LORs and PS.
Miss Beesly, your GPA is quite good and your LSAT is at least above the 95th percentile. Why did you ignore my response to this statement?
Perhaps you missed my point. You said that LSAT and GPA are "proven predictors." How accurate are they as predictors? Not very. Do we have a better system right now? No. Does that have anything to do with recognizing the value of diversity in a classroom setting? No.
Quote from: Pam Beesly on January 16, 2008, 11:48:49 PMQuote from: theflyingmachine on January 16, 2008, 11:44:10 PMMiss Beesly, your GPA is quite good and your LSAT is at least above the 95th percentile. Why did you ignore my response to this statement?Which statement? This^one? You're right, my numbers are decent enough, but don't forget my amazing ECs, LORs and PS. No, my response to Ender's statement that you quoted.I stated earlier in the thread that I have no issue with AA admits numbers-wise who have more to offer. Since urMom was adversely decided upon by two lower ranked schools than NYU, it's likely she has little else to offer.
Quote from: Ender Wiggin on January 16, 2008, 11:51:04 PMPerhaps you missed my point. You said that LSAT and GPA are "proven predictors." How accurate are they as predictors? Not very. Do we have a better system right now? No. Does that have anything to do with recognizing the value of diversity in a classroom setting? No. I do not understand your screwdrivers.What kind of value does color diversity add to a classroom?
And since I was admitted to Michigan and Virginia but held at Notre Dame, UM and UVA must have had some ulterior motive.
Quote from: Ender Wiggin on January 16, 2008, 11:53:49 PMQuote from: theflyingmachine on January 16, 2008, 11:51:52 PMQuote from: Pam Beesly on January 16, 2008, 11:48:49 PMQuote from: theflyingmachine on January 16, 2008, 11:44:10 PMMiss Beesly, your GPA is quite good and your LSAT is at least above the 95th percentile. Why did you ignore my response to this statement?Which statement? This^one? You're right, my numbers are decent enough, but don't forget my amazing ECs, LORs and PS. No, my response to Ender's statement that you quoted.I stated earlier in the thread that I have no issue with AA admits numbers-wise who have more to offer. Since urMom was adversely decided upon by two lower ranked schools than NYU, it's likely she has little else to offer.And since I was admitted to Michigan and Virginia but held at Notre Dame, UM and UVA must have had some ulterior motive. Are "holds" now equal to "rejections"?
Quote from: theflyingmachine on January 16, 2008, 11:51:52 PMQuote from: Pam Beesly on January 16, 2008, 11:48:49 PMQuote from: theflyingmachine on January 16, 2008, 11:44:10 PMMiss Beesly, your GPA is quite good and your LSAT is at least above the 95th percentile. Why did you ignore my response to this statement?Which statement? This^one? You're right, my numbers are decent enough, but don't forget my amazing ECs, LORs and PS. No, my response to Ender's statement that you quoted.I stated earlier in the thread that I have no issue with AA admits numbers-wise who have more to offer. Since urMom was adversely decided upon by two lower ranked schools than NYU, it's likely she has little else to offer.And since I was admitted to Michigan and Virginia but held at Notre Dame, UM and UVA must have had some ulterior motive.
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