Obviously I'm referring to Univ of Penn.
u penn isn't a state school, unless by state school you mean "school with the name of a state in it."
I did. That's why I called the thread the
state schools, as in I was referencing a particular group, and also why state was in quotations. Note that these schools are ranked 7-10, so I saw them all as in one tier. I guess I should have made that more clear.