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ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility

Re: ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility
« Reply #210 on: May 07, 2008, 07:33:47 AM »
Yeah, I think I told you I looked at an awesome place right at Cleveland Circle but the girl I was looking with bailed on me  :'(

Meh, I'm just pissed because I had two appointments at what looked like really awesome places scheduled for this weekend, and I wrote to these people yesterday to confirm so I could buy my train ticket for Friday.  I haven't heard back from either of them, so I think they're bailing on me as well (so rude!!! What if I had just bought a ticket and showed up?).  AND I haven't seen anything on Craigslist that fits all my criteria in about a week.

Grrr.  >:(

That's frustrating - try to get people's phone numbers so you can hunt them down.  I felt the same way about DC and craiglist... I'm pretty much settling for the best thing I found even though it's expensive, and then next summer we can think about moving once we know the area more.  What's frustrating is that unlike Boston where rents  and housing costs decrease significantly as you get out to the 128 belt and out of the city, the same thing doesn't happen in DC - John and I were pretty surprised.

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Re: ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility
« Reply #211 on: May 07, 2008, 07:39:47 AM »
Yeah, I think I told you I looked at an awesome place right at Cleveland Circle but the girl I was looking with bailed on me  :'(

Meh, I'm just pissed because I had two appointments at what looked like really awesome places scheduled for this weekend, and I wrote to these people yesterday to confirm so I could buy my train ticket for Friday.  I haven't heard back from either of them, so I think they're bailing on me as well (so rude!!! What if I had just bought a ticket and showed up?).  AND I haven't seen anything on Craigslist that fits all my criteria in about a week.

Grrr.  >:(

That's frustrating - try to get people's phone numbers so you can hunt them down.  I felt the same way about DC and craiglist... I'm pretty much settling for the best thing I found even though it's expensive, and then next summer we can think about moving once we know the area more.  What's frustrating is that unlike Boston where rents  and housing costs decrease significantly as you get out to the 128 belt and out of the city, the same thing doesn't happen in DC - John and I were pretty surprised.

Yeah, NOVA is actually more expensive than the District in a lot of places -- you have to get pretty far out, or at least far away from the Metro, before it gets cheap.  I have to say I was surprised when you said cost of living in DC was higher than Boston, but then I had to remember that my situation isn't . . . typical, I guess.

You're lucky, though, you're dealing with property managers/landlords who just want to rent their *&^% out and be done with it.  It's SOOOOO much worse when you're trying to move into a house with already established roommates who are looking for a new person.  They totally have the upper hand, and they're all like "are you available to come up here for two interviews, both in the middle of the week?" or some bull.  I just really hope I don't decide to just take the first thing that's offered to me.  I did this in DC out of frustration, and it was sort of a mistake.

Re: ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility
« Reply #212 on: May 07, 2008, 08:01:36 AM »
Yeah, I think I told you I looked at an awesome place right at Cleveland Circle but the girl I was looking with bailed on me  :'(

Meh, I'm just pissed because I had two appointments at what looked like really awesome places scheduled for this weekend, and I wrote to these people yesterday to confirm so I could buy my train ticket for Friday.  I haven't heard back from either of them, so I think they're bailing on me as well (so rude!!! What if I had just bought a ticket and showed up?).  AND I haven't seen anything on Craigslist that fits all my criteria in about a week.

Grrr.  >:(

That's frustrating - try to get people's phone numbers so you can hunt them down.  I felt the same way about DC and craiglist... I'm pretty much settling for the best thing I found even though it's expensive, and then next summer we can think about moving once we know the area more.  What's frustrating is that unlike Boston where rents  and housing costs decrease significantly as you get out to the 128 belt and out of the city, the same thing doesn't happen in DC - John and I were pretty surprised.

Yeah, NOVA is actually more expensive than the District in a lot of places -- you have to get pretty far out, or at least far away from the Metro, before it gets cheap.  I have to say I was surprised when you said cost of living in DC was higher than Boston, but then I had to remember that my situation isn't . . . typical, I guess.

You're lucky, though, you're dealing with property managers/landlords who just want to rent their *&^% out and be done with it.  It's SOOOOO much worse when you're trying to move into a house with already established roommates who are looking for a new person.  They totally have the upper hand, and they're all like "are you available to come up here for two interviews, both in the middle of the week?" or some bull.  I just really hope I don't decide to just take the first thing that's offered to me.  I did this in DC out of frustration, and it was sort of a mistake.

What do you mean your situation isn't typical? (did I miss something?)

Yeah we looked at SO many places it was ridiculous and the ones in our desired locations and price range were just crappy.  Then we looked at the nice apartment buildings and it was like a different world but so much $$ argh.

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Re: ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility
« Reply #213 on: May 07, 2008, 08:09:14 AM »
My situation's not typical in that my rent is $580/mo.

Nova is kind of a bad place to find housing.  There is definitely a huge disparity there because of how development has taken place -- there are a lot of ugly, crappy buildings, and then there are a lot of uber-luxurious condos and stuff, without a lot in between.  There also aren't really houses that have been converted into apartments like in the city, which IMO are the best option.

Re: ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility
« Reply #214 on: May 07, 2008, 08:28:56 AM »
I've posted a similar question in another thread), but it seems like it would be relevant here as well.

I'm a prospective BC student, and I have the option of virtually free housing in Medford, MA (relatives with an empty apartment in a two-family house).  Before being accepted to BC, I had planned to take the T to Suffolk (currently I don't own a car), but it appears that I would be in for a ~1.5 hour commute each way if I was to take public transportation to BC.

Anyone have any thoughts on whether this would be doable?  Would I need a car to make this work?  I suspect it would be about a 30-40 min drive.  Also, what's the parking situation like in/around campus -- I heard conflicting statements on
this.

Thanks in advance!

A 1.5 hr commute your 1st year of law school would be horrible.  I would say there is no way you should do that.  Time is very important your 1st year, and you will be stressed out beyond belief if you are wasting 3 hrs of your day each day just traveling.  Unless you are really dedicated/motivated and can study on crowded public transportation, in which case, it wouldn't be as bad, but still far from ideal.

Possibly your 2nd, and definitely your 3rd year, it will be less of an issue, so you can think of moving out there then.  You are in less of a time crunch and have control of scheduling your classes so you can try to plan it to work your life

Getting a car, or moving closer to campus, is definitely recommended.  There are no issues with parking on campus.   It can get crowded and so you might have to park like a 5 min walk away, but there is always a spot available.  It is appx $200 for the year.

Good luck with your choice.  Hope to see you at BC!


Looks like I'll be looking into a used car!  It's sort of funny -- my parents have always been vehemently opposed to the idea of me getting a car (I'm fresh out of undergrad, and there's no way my part-time job could finance a car without their help).  But as soon as I said "BC," suddenly they were more than willing to help out.   ;)

In any event, thanks so much for the input (greenie too!).

Re: ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility
« Reply #215 on: May 07, 2008, 08:34:29 AM »
My situation's not typical in that my rent is $580/mo.

Nova is kind of a bad place to find housing.  There is definitely a huge disparity there because of how development has taken place -- there are a lot of ugly, crappy buildings, and then there are a lot of uber-luxurious condos and stuff, without a lot in between.  There also aren't really houses that have been converted into apartments like in the city, which IMO are the best option.

Yeah I agree with your assessment regarding the huge disparity.  I also haven't heard the best things about the buses in Nova - just that they aren't reliable, but I guess that's the nature of buses in general.   We don't need to live in a luxury building, but we also refuse to live in an ugly crappy building, so we're kind of stuck with the luxury building.  There's also disparities between management companies - some are good, some are bad, and we definitely don't want to deal with the bad when moving to a new city and me starting 1L year.  That's why we ended up going with an expensive building, and we'll reevaluate next year.  We'd love to buy a little house or something...

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Re: ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility
« Reply #216 on: May 07, 2008, 08:42:18 AM »
My situation's not typical in that my rent is $580/mo.

Nova is kind of a bad place to find housing.  There is definitely a huge disparity there because of how development has taken place -- there are a lot of ugly, crappy buildings, and then there are a lot of uber-luxurious condos and stuff, without a lot in between.  There also aren't really houses that have been converted into apartments like in the city, which IMO are the best option.

Yeah I agree with your assessment regarding the huge disparity.  I also haven't heard the best things about the buses in Nova - just that they aren't reliable, but I guess that's the nature of buses in general.   We don't need to live in a luxury building, but we also refuse to live in an ugly crappy building, so we're kind of stuck with the luxury building.  There's also disparities between management companies - some are good, some are bad, and we definitely don't want to deal with the bad when moving to a new city and me starting 1L year.  That's why we ended up going with an expensive building, and we'll reevaluate next year.  We'd love to buy a little house or something...

They are terribly unreliable.  To a degree that I've never seen anywhere else.

It would be nice for you guys to buy a house, but the Nova housing market is generally pretty brutal, especially near Metro stations.  I grew up in a pretty normal/smallish single family home right next to the Vienna metro, and when my parents told me for how much they sold it in 2003-2004, it was like  :o.  And Arlington/Alexandria will be even more expensive.  Plus, if you're moving back to Boston, you may get killed both in terms of the market AND capital gains if you end up with something less expensive in Boston.

Re: ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility
« Reply #217 on: May 07, 2008, 08:52:33 AM »
My situation's not typical in that my rent is $580/mo.

Nova is kind of a bad place to find housing.  There is definitely a huge disparity there because of how development has taken place -- there are a lot of ugly, crappy buildings, and then there are a lot of uber-luxurious condos and stuff, without a lot in between.  There also aren't really houses that have been converted into apartments like in the city, which IMO are the best option.

Yeah I agree with your assessment regarding the huge disparity.  I also haven't heard the best things about the buses in Nova - just that they aren't reliable, but I guess that's the nature of buses in general.   We don't need to live in a luxury building, but we also refuse to live in an ugly crappy building, so we're kind of stuck with the luxury building.  There's also disparities between management companies - some are good, some are bad, and we definitely don't want to deal with the bad when moving to a new city and me starting 1L year.  That's why we ended up going with an expensive building, and we'll reevaluate next year.  We'd love to buy a little house or something...

They are terribly unreliable.  To a degree that I've never seen anywhere else.

It would be nice for you guys to buy a house, but the Nova housing market is generally pretty brutal, especially near Metro stations.  I grew up in a pretty normal/smallish single family home right next to the Vienna metro, and when my parents told me for how much they sold it in 2003-2004, it was like  :o.  And Arlington/Alexandria will be even more expensive.  Plus, if you're moving back to Boston, you may get killed both in terms of the market AND capital gains if you end up with something less expensive in Boston.

Right, makes me wonder if it's just best to rent in one of these "luxury" apartments for three years, even though it's really expensive.  This is definitely factoring into the fact that GW will be more expensive for me.  I think John right now is comfortable with moving to NoVa/DC "indefinitely" since he's looking for a job.  If he ends up liking it he won't want to leave haha.  I learned a lot about the housing market, buses, and rental market in DC/NoVa this weekend that worries me, but at least I have a better picture of things.  I was looking for places within walking distance of a metro - even out in Vienna but they were just like not that significantly less money than I would have thought, they are almost the same damn price as the ones in the Rosslyn-Ballston corridor.  John's going to get a job in NoVa most likely (thats where the tech companies are and where both of his interviews were), so it's really best for us to live in NoVa for his commute...

Next year we'll reevaluate and we'll be there so we can make better assessments of everything.  If we can't buy a small house, we'd be able to afford a condo, but we're really hesitant to buy a condo again (we live in one now as you know).  Just the nature of condo owning makes us nervous to get into it again.  We may wait a few years after law school and such, down the line until we have proper money to buy a nice place we like and it's in the right location and everything.  We're moving to a much harder housing market... but then again we may come back to Boston where it's not that bad right now.  Then AGAIN with the market like it is who knows how things will look.  But it's just a one-year lease, so we can reevaluate next summer.

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Re: ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility
« Reply #218 on: May 07, 2008, 09:02:21 AM »
Conclusion:  I don't think I'm going to actually buy a residence until after I retire.

If you don't mind me asking, how much are you paying for your new place?  Because next year, depending on where John is working, there may actually be less expensive options in the city that would be reasonable commutes for both of you.  (You can PM if you don't want to post it, and we've hijacked this thread like whoa anyway).  It just really depends on where he will end up working in Nova -- there are some areas that it would be workable, or even more convenient, and there are some areas where it would be pretty much impossible.

Re: ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility
« Reply #219 on: May 08, 2008, 08:02:19 AM »
He didn't get the job in McLean so now it's all up to the one south of Dulles... do you know if a reverse commute is horrible?