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ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility

Re: ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility
« Reply #40 on: November 27, 2007, 12:32:28 PM »
I know that neither of you may know this, but how is the debt for the average student coming out of these schools?  Anecdotal evidence is also fine by me...I'll take what I can get.   :P

I might be off on this, but I think it's in the range of $85K.  On that note, there seems to be a lot of people here from $$ background ... judging merely from their apts and cars and toys.  This is by no mean empirical.

Thank you very much!

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Re: ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility
« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2007, 01:42:48 PM »
the debt is about the same as most private top tier law schools.  I get about 10k a year in scholrships  I also take out the maximum in loans, which I'm not sure I have to do ... I think it wouldbe possible for someone to be frugal and use much less money than the loans offer you ... especiall if you don't have a car and live close to the main campus or law school.  I figure to be in about 100-120k in debt when I graduate, perhaps less depndngon my 1 and 2L jobs.  If you work at a firm both summers you could take a 50-60k chunk out of those loans, which would be sweet.

The debt is daunting but it is a fact of life for many people who look to go into lucrative professions  Just think, doctors graduate with 200k or more, and then get paid sh!t for the first few years.

If nothing else, thinking about the debt keeps me in the library.

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Re: ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility
« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2007, 02:20:58 PM »
Looking to hear more about BU as well. At my firm, BU is trashtalked a lot (whether it deserves it or not). People seem to  respect the rigor at the school, but they say that the academic and social environment is uniquely cut-throat. Is this true?

You have more type A personalities than the undergrad environment, but people are friendly and easy-going generally.  Is it more intense than undergrad?  Of course, which is both expected and wanted of an engaging legal training ground.  Are people "cut-throat" or otherwise mean or nasty?  Absolutely not.
(i) similar caliber of students, and with that similar personalities and drives; (ii) similar class size and placement; and (iii) similar demographics.

This cannot be stated enough, and it is important for several reasons.
I come from a hugs-and-kisses, touchy-feely undergrad ... whatever might be said about BC as the "dsneyland of law schools" or whatever, the fact is that you are in law school.  The topics are intense, the professors are intense and the students are intense.  We're talking 250 highly motivated people who are just as smart as you and who know that their grades during the first year are really important to the next 5-7 years of their life.

The horror stories that you hear from "back in the day" (which was a wdnesday, by the way...) mainly seem to revolve around books in the library.  Well, I've got something to tell you about books in the library ... they are USELESS thee days ... especially for 1L.  For my legal writing class I did everything on Westlaw (which is SO much better tha lexis, I dont know why anyone waste their time with that crap).  The only way someone could have sabotaged me would have been by changing my password or something ...
And as far as other stuff goes, if you are nice to people they will be nice to you.  The few times I have missed class people have offered me notes, and I have done the same for others ... but again, technology has made life so easy ... i you miss class just go look up the brief online to make sure you got all the relevant points of law from it.
And outlines ... I've heard complaints from past law students about kids getting the good outlines from older students and not sharing ... well, at BC there are two different websites run by students that havea cache of old outlines that you can use as a starting point, so everone is basically onn the same page if they want to be.

So yeah, unless someone from HLS or Chicago or something wants to chime in here, I really feel that the heyday of law school cut-throat-ness has long passed.
But there are gunners.  Always have been and always will be.  If all you did wa sit in on a single class at any certain school you run the risk of being there on a day when the gunners are especially vocal or unusually quiet ... this could strangely shape your perception of a school, so make sure to talk to many students at the schools you are considerng about the general classroom atmosphere.

OK I really need to get back to school.
Hang in there, LSD ... the big wave of pre-christmas acceptances are coming soon.

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Re: ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility
« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2007, 10:34:02 PM »
am i the only one who thinks that the budget is awful and theres no way anyone could take out less? maybe its just cuz i spend too much but they really really make you live to the wire and i take out the max. if my mom didnt pay my cell bill for/ buy me new clotehs every once in awhile and put money in my account if i desperately needed a hundred dollars i think i would be completely broke

that said, i went straight into law school with ZERO savings- meaning my ONLY source of money at all is from loans. i also dont use credit cards- every thing i pay for goes straight from my account.  I had an unpaid internship this past summer and lived off of my school's public interest grant which also left me very little spending money but luckily i live in NYC and lived there for free during my 1L summer.

i also do not (and i dont think will EVER ) cook. so i prob spend more then i should on food. 

my point is, i just dont see how people can live off the budge they allocate you- much less LESS then that budge.  maybe i dont see it b/c as an RA my food/housing was already subtracted so all i have left are "personal expenses" and apparently what i consider "personal expenses" cost a little more then 200 bucks a month...

i hate being broke. it makes me sad.

my point is i feel like im drowning in being roke.

Re: ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2007, 08:39:39 PM »
preemptive bump in hopes that either BU or BC will accept me soon...

I hear ya, buddy. 

Early notification envelopes will be sent soon!

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Re: ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility
« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2007, 09:23:58 PM »
thanks for digging this up ... I've got to go away for finals but when I come back I hope to see that a ton of people have been accepted and have a lot of questions ... I mean, what else would I do over break? ...

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Re: ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility
« Reply #46 on: December 04, 2007, 05:55:56 AM »
Does anyone know when these two schools start looking at apps?

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Re: ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility
« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2007, 09:16:20 AM »
Does anyone know when these two schools start looking at apps?

EA decisions from BC are supposed to be back next Thursday
What about regular decision?

Re: ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility
« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2007, 09:19:05 AM »
Does anyone know when these two schools start looking at apps?

EA decisions from BC are supposed to be back next Thursday
What about regular decision?

When I visited the people we talked to alluded to early January.
He said they do EA, then take a short Holiday break and get right back to it.

Re: ITT a BU 1L and a BC 1L answer questions with civility
« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2007, 11:19:42 AM »
Does anyone know when these two schools start looking at apps?

EA decisions from BC are supposed to be back next Thursday
What about regular decision?

When I visited the people we talked to alluded to early January.
He said they do EA, then take a short Holiday break and get right back to it.




That would be amazing..... winter break is going to be soooooo long.  Wishing I would've been more organized and done EA.......