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Why I'm proud to be a Republican

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Re: Why I'm proud to be a Republican
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2006, 07:51:40 AM »

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Re: Why I'm proud to be a Republican
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2006, 08:56:56 AM »
Because my fellow republicans represent the best of what my country has to offer....that oh so compassionate conservatism.

(From crooksandliars.com)

I think itís safe to say the last two weeks have been less than kind when it comes to conservatives and race relations.

* Sen. George Allenís (R-Va.) "macaca" scandal.

* Sen. Conrad Burns (R-Mont.) joked about how a

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/22/AR2006082201082.html

"nice little Guatemalan man" fixing up his house might be an illegal immigrant.

No arguments here.

* A leading congressional candidate in Florida said he knows, "from my own experience, that blacks are not the greatest swimmers, and may not even know how to swim."
http://www.redstate.com/stories/elections/2006/tramm_hudson_destroys_himself

I think this one has been blown a little bit out of proportion...it's not exactly derogatory, unless he sincerely believes that absolutely ALL blacks can't swim. I can't imagine he could be that naive. Otherwise, I personally think it's akin to saying that blacks make better atheletes. So what?

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* Two congressional candidates and a gubernatorial candidate believe people who "appear" to be Arab or Muslim should be subjected to racial profiling at airports.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2006/08/21/latest-republican-campaign-issue/
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No time for pulling up the sources, but it's been in the headlines anyway that 60% of Americans *do* approve of racial profiling, and 2/3rds or so of African-Americans, paradoxically, also approve.

* Pat Buchananís new book argues for "an immediate moratorium on all immigration," in order to preserve the dominance of the white race in America.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/22/buchanan-white-dominance/

Well, whaddya' expect from Pat? He'll go a couple of weeks presenting himself as a sensible moderate conservative, then he'll have some sort of apoplectic fit of raving lunacy and provide us with such a gem. Incidentally, Bill O' Reilly and other Fox News commentators have urged whites to "have more babies" to counter the "threat" of minority-majority growth.

And in one you may not have heard about, a Baptist church in Mississippi voted out a 12-year-old boy who "asked Jesus to live in his heart" ó because the child is biracial and church members didnít want the black side of his family attending with him.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/8305.html

And these are just from the last two weeks.


Not sure what this one has to do with the GOP in general, but a) it *is* Mississippi, b) it's screwed up, indeed, but it's a Southern Baptist church, *in Mississippi*, making it a sort of "superignorant" institution.

 ;)

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Re: Why I'm proud to be a Republican
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2006, 09:46:39 AM »
LOL, good analysis dividebyzero



No time for pulling up the sources, but it's been in the headlines anyway that 60% of Americans *do* approve of racial profiling, and 2/3rds or so of African-Americans, paradoxically, also approve.


Yeah, I've seen this info out there.  I have this theory that goes something like this: the majority of Americans often start out on the wrong side of an issue. Especially issues that have to do with race, morality, or that in some way plays to an easily manipulated emotion (fear probably being the relevant one here).  After the emotions dissipate and clear thinking prevails, the "majority" then more closely aligns themself with a position that makes more sense in the long run. So these stats that we have been seeing out there only reinforces my belief that this is a bad policy. 

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Re: Why I'm proud to be a Republican
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2006, 09:55:20 AM »
There are white niggers. I've seen a lot of white niggers in my time.
-Robert Byrd, Democrat, West Virginia (The most senior democrat in the Senate might I add)

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Re: Why I'm proud to be a Republican
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2006, 09:55:38 AM »

Yeah, I've seen this info out there.  I have this theory that goes something like this: the majority of Americans often start out on the wrong side of an issue. Especially issues that have to do with race, morality, or that in some way plays to an easily manipulated emotion (fear probably being the relevant one here).  After the emotions dissipate and clear thinking prevails, the "majority" then more closely aligns themself with a position that makes more sense in the long run. So these stats that we have been seeing out there only reinforces my belief that this is a bad policy. 

Wow, BP  :). That theory is a hell of a lot better than the one on which I was operating.
My assumption, at least for the black community's willingness to accept Arab racial profiling, was that it was due to the Arab community's near immediate dissociation from African-Americans when they began to immigrate to this country. Other than isolated interactions under the auspices of the Nation of Islam, etc, Arab-Americans never really aligned themselves with blacks as one would've expected of another underrepresented minority that was also subjected to prejudice and profiling (although to a far lesser degree). Now, that (as Carlos Mencia eloquently put it, forgive me for quoting a comedian) Muslim Arabs in this country are "the New Nig**rs", there is probably a sense in the black community that they shouldn't be inclined to care about the fate of Arabs who did nothing for them when the situation was reversed.

But, damn BP, your theory is a hell of a lot more optimistic and trusting of the eventual "goodness" of the American spirit. I also agree that racial profiling of Muslim Arabs, if it does progress, won't last for long. America does love her periods of morally-questionable upheavals, doesn't she  ;)?

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Re: Why I'm proud to be a Republican
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2006, 10:00:37 AM »
There are white niggers. I've seen a lot of white niggers in my time.
-Robert Byrd, Democrat, West Virginia (The most senior democrat in the Senate might I add)

I am in no way attempting to defend this, but given the context of the statement, I'm thinking that his use of the word "nig**r" wasn't with the same racially-conotative meaning that it usually has. It would seem that he's using the same distinction between "black people and n**gers" that Chris Rock mentioned (why do I keep quoting comedians?!). If this is the case, as it would seem, then although I would strongly object to how he spoke, I wouldn't necessarily consider him a racist.

Calling and Indian a "macaca" ON TELEVISION and expecting to get away with it, though, is not only racist, but incredibly stupid. If for no other reason, Allen should be politically castrated for being a complete and utter moron.