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Online Law Schools / Re: Did not get accepted to Concord Law School
« on: April 14, 2014, 05:48:19 AM »
I'm a big supporter of distance learning, but it's difficult not to see EJD as a waste of time and money in most instances.  I'd wait and retake, or maybe move on to Taft (which I think is pretty much comparable with Concord).

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Online Law Schools / Re: Law School to Offer Hybrid Online JD
« on: December 19, 2013, 07:22:29 AM »
In 20 years people will look back in disbelief at the short-sighted policies of the ABA and traditional law schools.  The JD will be offered in an entirely online environment, and cost will plummet.  That is my prediction for the future - now I must go to my flying car and speed off to my job in the cloud city.....

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Online Law Schools / Re: St. Francis Law
« on: October 03, 2013, 07:43:34 AM »
I believe that distance learning is the new reality in most fields, but law is very slow to climb on board.  This is not entirely the fault of the ABA as the supreme courts of the various states generally make the rules for bar admission.  I really do think that there will one day be a distance learning program approved by the ABA, most likely initially offered from a traditional brick and mortar school.  However, unless people continue to push for it - though legitimate channels - it's going to be very slow in arriving. 

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Online Law Schools / Re: St. Francis Law
« on: September 27, 2013, 07:29:14 AM »
This board gets remarkably little use, I think that people are hesitant to  post because they fear being attacked.  In the past, this hasn't really been a very friendly place to post comments which could be regarded as pro-distance education.  The radio buttons are a bit confusing......

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Online Law Schools / Re: Concord Law JD --- Starting Sept 4, 2012
« on: August 22, 2012, 08:52:49 AM »
Good luck!  You will find that many people on this forum are extremely negative about online study, and while there is much justification to their concerns, some members seem to make it their personal crusade to crush the hopes of those pursuing such a program.  I feel that if you are fully informed then the path you follow is entirely up to you.  There is a lot of good information on here, and a considerable amount of misinformation spread not, I feel, through malice but through ignorance.   The path you've chosen is far from easy, but if you reasonably feel that it will lead you to your desired ends, then I wish you all the best.   

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Online Law Schools / Re: Distance Law Schools... how does it work?
« on: July 16, 2012, 11:58:40 AM »
It is a huge difference, but not entirely correct.   There are a few states which will allow distance learning graduates to take the state bar, though they may have practice requirements before allowing them to do so.  This has been discussed ad nauseam on here - do a search.

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Besides my "normal" job, I also have served as an adjunct professor in the recent past.  It does not pay well, but I like teaching and it is fun to associate with people just entering the profession.  That being said, I doubt that a EJD will enhance your chances of obtaining an adjunct teaching position, but if you have a law enforcement degree and considerable experience - that will likely be viewed more significantly than a degree which many in academic circles find questionable (the EJD).  Just my experience, YMMV.

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Online Law Schools / Re: Taft or Concord Law School
« on: April 17, 2012, 10:16:13 AM »
Taft is DETC accredited, which (while not regional) is better than nothing - some of the online schools have no legitimate accreditation.  I work for state government, in my experience the precedence for consideration for those legal positions which do not require admittance to the bar is as follows:

1) B&M ABA accredited law degree and bar passage.
2) B&M accredited (not ABA) law degree and bar passage
3) B&M ABA accredited law degree without bar
4) Online accredited (not ABA) law degree and bar passage
5) B&M accredited (not ABA) law degree without bar
6) Online accredited (not ABA) law degree without bar
7) Any law degree without any accreditation and without bar (generally not even recognized)

For positions requiring admittance to the bar (assuming otherwise bar eligible):

1) B&M ABA accredited law degree and bar passage.
2) B&M accredited (not ABA) law degree and bar passage
3) Online accredited (not ABA) law degree and bar passage

Education not acceptable for positions requiring admittance to the bar (even if otherwise bar eligible):

1) B&M ABA accredited law degree without bar
2) B&M accredited (not ABA) law degree without bar
3) Online accredited (not ABA) law degree without bar
4) Any law degree without any accreditation, either with or without bar

This just reflects my experience and talking to other working professionals in state government who have knowledge in this area YMMV.  Good luck in whatever you do.

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Online Law Schools / Re: Specialization Exams
« on: March 06, 2012, 11:26:01 AM »
I feel sorry for the OP, but asking the same question repeatedly obviously isn't producing the information she(?) needs.  If there is some reason that the OP is ineligible for the bar it would be best just to be up front about it.   The mediator suggestion might work in some states, and could be a viable option.

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I work for state government and have for almost 20 years in.  I have a paralegal and an attorney who report to me, as well as several subject area specialists.  I can tell you from personal experience that the state - here at least -- will research your degree and make sure it is legitimate.  If you won't be acting as an attorney the ABA approval won't be an overwhelming factor, but if the college you attend isn't accredited then it  will be looked upon as a fake degree and you will not even be considered for the position (and could be charged with faking a resume, though we've never done it).  This may seem harsh, but that's just the way it is.  Make absolutely sure of the accreditation of the school by an agency approved by the U.S. Dept. of Education before you start, or you will most likely be wasting your time and money.  YMMV.

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