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Title: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 08:31:59 PM
In this thread we obsess and talk about how we like game theory until Chicago starts handing out RD acceptances. 

And so it begins.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Dr. Raoul Duke on January 13, 2007, 08:38:55 PM
So it does.

In the meantime, someone please pass the rum and we shall all be merry.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 08:40:32 PM
So it does.

In the meantime, someone please pass the rum and we shall all be merry.

I don't have any handy, just a little wine.

I'll break out the rum if I don't get in.  :-\
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: stjobs on January 13, 2007, 08:42:59 PM
Scotch here...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 08:44:54 PM
Scotch here...

That's for celebration if I do get in.  Maybe a cigar, too.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 08:51:58 PM
Two suspects, A and B, are arrested by the police. The police have insufficient evidence for a conviction, and, having separated both prisoners, visit each of them to offer the same deal: if one testifies for the prosecution against the other and the other remains silent, the betrayer goes free and the silent accomplice receives the full 10-year sentence. If both stay silent, both prisoners are sentenced to only six months in jail for a minor charge. If each betrays the other, each receives a two-year sentence. Each prisoner must make the choice of whether to betray the other or to remain silent. However, neither prisoner knows for sure what choice the other prisoner will make. So this dilemma poses the question: How should the prisoners act?

Ans: They should both keep their big mouths shut. Unfortunately, the dilemma is that people tend to maximize their own utility, coupled with the fact that people tend to distrust each other, so they will rat each other out. Two-year sentences for both. Stupid prisoners.

Side node: Brit stole my game theory thunder. She wins the LSD Dilemma.

Sort-of-threadjack: The Prisoner's Dilemma is a paradox. Here's another... Some people set their watches ahead (e.g., 10 minutes fast) so they won't be late. But they are well aware that they are setting their watches ahead. Do they somehow fool themselves into thinking that  their incorrect watch is in fact correct, or do they know it's incorrect but are still spurred on by this helpful watch? Or is it something else?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 08:53:35 PM
Sort-of-threadjack: The Prisoner's Dilemma is a paradox. Here's another... Some people set their watches ahead (e.g., 10 minutes fast) so they won't be late. But they are well aware that they are setting their watches ahead. Do they somehow fool themselves into thinking that  their incorrect watch is in fact correct, or do they know it's incorrect but are still spurred on by this helpful watch? Or is it something else?

Someone actually suggested this to me.  Unfortunately, I'm neither dumb enough nor smart enough to trick myself.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: stjobs on January 13, 2007, 08:54:00 PM
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Do they somehow fool themselves into thinking that their incorrect watch is in fact correct [?]

We just forget that it was set ahead. Mine is usually two minutes fast.

It's never too early for scotch. Hell, I just applied to Chicago this afternoon ;)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 08:58:16 PM

Darn you stole my answer, I was going to answer and sound all smart.  BUT, if however, it's an iterated PD, then the best course of action would probably be to cooperate. So there.

There's no iteration in real life. Only dumb people who can't get it right the first time. ;)

EDIT: Data Structures was one of my favorite courses. I like writing different quicksorts and binary search trees. A BST was one of the only things I ever wrote that compiled and ran correctly the very first time.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 09:01:05 PM
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Do they somehow fool themselves into thinking that their incorrect watch is in fact correct [?]

We just forget that it was set ahead. Mine is usually two minutes fast.

It's never too early for scotch. Hell, I just applied to Chicago this afternoon ;)

That is so weird.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: stjobs on January 13, 2007, 09:08:10 PM
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That is so weird.

Why? Most people can't intuit whether it's actually 8 PM or 7:58 PM without consulting a clock, which may be off to start with.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 09:11:31 PM

Darn you stole my answer, I was going to answer and sound all smart.  BUT, if however, it's an iterated PD, then the best course of action would probably be to cooperate. So there.

There's no iteration in real life. Only dumb people who can't get it right the first time. ;)

EDIT: Data Structures was one of my favorite courses. I like writing different quicksorts and binary search trees. A BST was one of the only things I ever wrote that compiled and ran correctly the very first time.

Oh, I don't know, we have history, don't we?  :D

Indeed. The iterated PD actually raises another paradox. If both people act rationally, neither can cooperate in the hope of getting the other to cooperate because backward induction shows that they will rat each other out every time. When the final iteration occurs, there's no "tit-for-tat" pattern, so the most selfish choice will be made. But then, the same choice has to happen before that, and before that, and so on back to the first choice.

However, for the backward induction to begin, both people have to realize they've made the final choice when they get to it. In CS, this is obvious. For real people, not so much. Plus, like I said before, we're never really confident that other people will act rationally, so the first choice wouldn't be one of cooperation.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: mL4300ic on January 13, 2007, 09:12:19 PM
EDIT: Data Structures was one of my favorite courses. I like writing different quicksorts and binary search trees. A BST was one of the only things I ever wrote that compiled and ran correctly the very first time.

DS is cool. Algorithms/Algorithmics is not so cool. And a lot harder. And painful. Ugh.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: StudentUVA on January 13, 2007, 09:12:32 PM
Ah the prisoners dilemma.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 09:13:14 PM

Darn you stole my answer, I was going to answer and sound all smart.  BUT, if however, it's an iterated PD, then the best course of action would probably be to cooperate. So there.

There's no iteration in real life. Only dumb people who can't get it right the first time. ;)

EDIT: Data Structures was one of my favorite courses. I like writing different quicksorts and binary search trees. A BST was one of the only things I ever wrote that compiled and ran correctly the very first time.

Oh, I don't know, we have history, don't we?  :D

Indeed. The iterated PD actually raises another paradox. If both people act rationally, neither can cooperate in the hope of getting the other to cooperate because backward induction shows that they will rat each other out every time. When the final iteration occurs, there's no "tit-for-tat" pattern, so the most selfish choice will be made. But then, the same choice has to happen before that, and before that, and so on back to the first choice.

However, for the backward induction to begin, both people have to realize they've made the final choice when they get to it. In CS, this is obvious. For real people, not so much. Plus, like I said before, we're never really confident that other people will act rationally, so the first choice wouldn't be one of cooperation.

See, this thread is cool, because if the Chicago adcomm members see it, they will realize how awesome we are and admit us all.  Please.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 09:14:18 PM
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That is so weird.

Why? Most people can't intuit whether it's actually 8 PM or 7:58 PM without consulting a clock, which may be off to start with.

Because that person purposely set the watch that they are looking at to be fast. For someone to forget a conscious decision like that, something must happen in the person's mind. Either the mind knows that the person wants to forget, the people somehow force themselves to forget (maybe by letting a good amount to pass between the time they set the watch and the time they next use it, although this never seems to be the case in real life), or... something else.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 09:14:50 PM
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That is so weird.

Why? Most people can't intuit whether it's actually 8 PM or 7:58 PM without consulting a clock, which may be off to start with.

Because that person purposely set the watch that they are looking at to be fast. For someone to forget a conscious decision like that, something must happen in the person's mind. Either the mind knows that the person wants to forget, the people somehow force themselves to forget (maybe by letting a good amount to pass between the time they set the watch and the time they next use it, although this never seems to be the case in real life), or... something else.

My problem is that I know the watch is fast, so I subtract time, usually more time than has actually been added.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: stjobs on January 13, 2007, 09:17:05 PM
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For someone to forget a conscious decision like that, something must happen in the person's mind.

'Happen' may be one way to describe it... I have many other things on my mind, so I really do forget that I set the watch ahead after 12 hours...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 09:26:24 PM

I like this thread very much, kudos Brito!

Thank you!

I set it up so that hijacking would, paradoxically, keep it on topic.  It's what we need right now in this difficult time.   :D
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 09:28:14 PM

See, this thread is cool, because if the Chicago adcomms see it, they will realize how awesome we are and admit us all.  Please.

I have two books just about paradoxes. My favorite paradox of all time is called "The Heap". It goes like this (taken from Paradoxes from A to Z by Michael Clark):

A pile of 10,000 grains is a heap.
For any number n>1, if a pile of n grains is a heap, then so is a pile of n - 1 grains.
So one grain is a heap.

This form of argument (p->q; p; therefore, q) is known as modus ponens. It works fine with pure logic, but not with how we define a heap. The paradox lies in the definition of words. A "heap" is not a sharply defined word, so we don't have a specific point that we'd call the pile of grains a heap, or stop calling it a heap.

My favorite resolution of this argument comes about by using "degrees of truth". Let's say that we're at the borderline of a heap when we reach 70 grains, and consider the following:

If 71 grains makes a heap, then so do 70.

The "if" part of the statement (71 grains) is more true than the "then" part (70 grains). So, if one part of the if-then statement is more true than the other, then it's reasonable to say that the statement isn't strictly true. It may be only by a small degree, but if we keep making these inferences down the chain, the small errors propagate and make it impossible to say that only one grain is a heap.

There are other approaches (fuzzy logic, supervaluations), but they're not as interesting, I think.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 09:33:40 PM

See, this thread is cool, because if the Chicago adcomms see it, they will realize how awesome we are and admit us all.  Please.


A pile of 10,000 grains is a heap.
For any number n>1, if a pile of n grains is a heap, then so is a pile of n - 1 grains.
So one grain is a heap.


A law school in the top 3 will provide great employment opportunities.
For any number n<100, if a law school in the top n will provide great employment opportunities, then so will a law school in the top n + 1.
All Tier 1 schools provide great employment opportunities.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 09:36:03 PM

But forgetting doesn't have to be a conscious decision, or a result of conscious habituation.  If you're setting your watch ahead because you're always short on time, say, in the mornings, then usually there's too much going on in too short an amount of time, which makes it easy to forget relatively minor details (such as "I set my clock forward at 9 PM last night). 

Aha! This is the real paradox. I was hoping it would get to this point quickly. So, this implies that the brain somehow has a built in "task manager" that brings important decisions to the fore and relegates less important ones to the rear (subconscious?). So, your brain remembers that you've made the decision, but your brain doesn't remind you, because you have more important things to worry about. You would "remember" if you saw a clock that had the correct, though, wouldn't you? You wouldn't think that this clock is wrong, because this stimuli would likely spur the memory of setting your watch ahead to come to the fore.

I'm no neuroscientist, but I feel (and think I've heard) that this compartmentalization and assigning importance to tasks (sort of like a priority queue that has smaller priority queues operating simultaneously within each queue) is what allows us to perceive the world without being overwhelmed by all the stimuli we're bombarded with. In fact, we don't really perceive the world as it is, but the brain helps us perceive it in a way that is easier for us to understand. For instance, some autistic savants have been shown to perceive the world without the tricks that our brain plays on us each day in order to keep our sanity.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 09:46:09 PM

I was going to say that the "degrees of truth" commits a logical fallacy (the slippery slope argument, of which the "heaps argument" is actually one variation).  The other thing is that in formal logic, the word "heap" doesn't necessarily have to mean what we, in everyday language, think of as a heap.  That's just our interpretation, and not a definition that the word is bound to.  Therefore, the cheap and easy way of resolving your heaps paradox is to say that you're committing another logical fallacy, that of equivocation.  <shrugs>

Your argument is true if we interpret "degrees of truth" in the realm of a system of logic. If, instead, we refrain from actually defining the "borderline" case, but state that the "borderline" (or the point where a person would begin to hesitate to call the thing a heap) varies from time to time and person to person (Oswald Hanfling's resolution), then a possible resolution shows itself. The whole problem is higher-order vagueness, but if we can eliminate the cause of the vagueness - namely, the vagueness of language - then we can resolve the paradox.

We're not actually committing equivocation, because equivocation implies a double meaning in formal logic, or taken more loosely (well, that's the whole problem , isn't it? Loose definitions...), language meant to mislead. We don't mean to mislead by saying that the word "heap" is not clearly defined. This is simply the way human language is set up. We're not computers, we need room to maneuver. That's how the law works. Remember the LSAT RC about using computers to solve legal problems. We'd have to get a program to resolve these vagaries, easier said than done.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: StudentUVA on January 13, 2007, 09:52:55 PM

See, this thread is cool, because if the Chicago adcomms see it, they will realize how awesome we are and admit us all.  Please.

I have two books just about paradoxes. My favorite paradox of all time is called "The Heap". It goes like this (taken from Paradoxes from A to Z by Michael Clark):

A pile of 10,000 grains is a heap.
For any number n>1, if a pile of n grains is a heap, then so is a pile of n - 1 grains.
So one grain is a heap.

This form of argument (p->q; p; therefore, q) is known as modus ponens. It works fine with pure logic, but not with how we define a heap. The paradox lies in the definition of words. A "heap" is not a sharply defined word, so we don't have a specific point that we'd call the pile of grains a heap, or stop calling it a heap.

My favorite resolution of this argument comes about by using "degrees of truth". Let's say that we're at the borderline of a heap when we reach 70 grains, and consider the following:

If 71 grains makes a heap, then so do 70.

The "if" part of the statement (71 grains) is more true than the "then" part (70 grains). So, if one part of the if-then statement is more true than the other, then it's reasonable to say that the statement isn't strictly true. It may be only by a small degree, but if we keep making these inferences down the chain, the small errors propagate and make it impossible to say that only one grain is a heap.

There are other approaches (fuzzy logic, supervaluations), but they're not as interesting, I think.
You remind me of my philosophy classes. I had to write endless papers on topics like this. It was really fun though.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 09:55:38 PM
Interesting, I can see some of your CS background in your argument - it seems like you do believe in the computational theory of the mind/mechanist view of mind (not saying I don't, I'm just feeling contrary).  Your langauge, of having a "task manager" almost suggests the homunculi that Dennett formulated, which constitutes a mental hierarchy (more complicated homunculi at the top taking on complex tasks, but each homunculi is composd of simpler homunculi, etc. etc. until the most basic homunculi can be replaced with simple mechanisms and processes).

Not exactly. I think it is more intertwined than this. The priority queues I've formulated, or the homunculi that you've formulated (homunculi scare me), actually mesh and communicate with each other. These complex interactions can't be broken down to constituent parts, because there are none - they're always changing, reforming themselves to deal with new stimuli. That's how the brain works, at least for a while - forming new connections, new neural pathways to deal with the new information we learn. This is why growing old sucks... we do this at incredible speeds when we're young, but then it levels off (saturation) and then starts to decline in old age, so we forget things. Of course, this is just generally speaking, and it doesn't happen to everyone. But it happens to most of us.

I think that a lot of these interactions start to break down as we age, so that we "forget" how to prioritize and compartmentalize, until it's more important to us to get our peaches n' cream than to pay our bills so we don't get kicked out of our houses. We haven't learned to prioritize yet when we're young, either, because these interactions aren't in place yet.

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I always had a problem with this view though, because of the whole consciousness issue - it seems like mechanism edges out the possibility that there's something []more[/i] to consciousness.  For instance, if you take mental processes and perception as purely physical processes, then where's the connection between brain synapses and consciousness?

Ignore my philosophical ramblings if you guys want!

I will not ignore any philosophical rambling, I'll just try to disprove it. ;) Too bad this is nearly impossible.

I agree with what you're saying, hence my "meshing" argument above. This is no simple mechanistic process, at least not one that we've discovered yet. I do have full confidence that, one day, given enough time, we will discover exactly how the brain works. Then we'll make some new brains in jars, couple them with technology, and they'll take over the world. No more humans!  ;D
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: StudentUVA on January 13, 2007, 09:57:13 PM

Your argument is true if we interpret "degrees of truth" in the realm of a system of logic. If, instead, we refrain from actually defining the "borderline" case, but state that the "borderline" (or the point where a person would begin to hesitate to call the thing a heap) varies from time to time and person to person (Oswald Hanfling's resolution), then a possible resolution shows itself. The whole problem is higher-order vagueness, but if we can eliminate the cause of the vagueness - namely, the vagueness of language - then we can resolve the paradox.



Yes, but to say that the "borderline" varies from time to time and person to person means you risk making any resolutions you draw relativistic.  Eliminating the vagueness of language is also not always possible - just take translation from English language to formal logic symbols.  Most sentences are capable of being expressed in symbols, but some you aren't going to be able to, maybe because of vagueness in how the sentence is expressed or even vagueness in the scope of a given quantifier.  So at best, eliminating vagueness and/or having personalized "borderlines" for each person is an incomplete resolution of the paradox.  

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We're not actually committing equivocation, because equivocation implies a double meaning in formal logic, or taken more loosely (well, that's the whole problem , isn't it? Loose definitions...), language meant to mislead. We don't mean to mislead by saying that the word "heap" is not clearly defined. This is simply the way human language is set up. We're not computers, we need room to maneuver. That's how the law works. Remember the LSAT RC about using computers to solve legal problems. We'd have to get a program to resolve these vagaries, easier said than done.

Also, the other part about the "if" part being more true than the "then" part doesn't hold either - if you try to use the formal definition of conditionals (which I assume you are, since you're bringing in modus ponens), then you can't say that the antecedent is more true than the consequent.  It doesn't work that way.  Granted, if the "if" is true, then the "then" has to be true, or the entire conditional itself is false.  You don't say that the "if" is more true than the "then" - it's either True or False.  
You're assuming that things can't be both true and false. For instance, take the previous sentence- i can claim that it's both true and false. You can respond by saying "no that's false" and i'll come back with "yea, i know, but it is also true".  
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 09:57:38 PM
I don't really have anything to contribute here, but this is the best thread ever.  I love you people!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 13, 2007, 09:58:23 PM
Possibly the nerdiest thread ever.  Congratulations--you all belong at Chicago.

(secretly I am one of you!)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 09:59:06 PM
Possibly the nerdiest thread ever.  Congratulations--you all belong at Chicago.

(secretly I am one of you!)

I will be upfront about the fact that I want to be one of you!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 10:04:30 PM
I don't really have anything to contribute here, but this is the best thread ever.  I love you people!

Brito, we love you for starting this craziness!

Please jump in!

Nah, my philosophy background is too shallow to contribute anything substantive to this discussion.  I'm just enjoying reading all this.  :)  On the one hand, I hope you get into Harvard.  But secretly, I hope we both end up at Chicago...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 10:10:36 PM
I don't really have anything to contribute here, but this is the best thread ever.  I love you people!

Brito, we love you for starting this craziness!

Please jump in!

Nah, my philosophy background is too shallow to contribute anything substantive to this discussion.  I'm just enjoying reading all this.  :)  On the one hand, I hope you get into Harvard.  But secretly, I hope we both end up at Chicago...

How about we both end up at Harvard? Or for that matter, how about we ALL (and by all, I mean everyone on this thread so far) end up at Harvard or Chicago?  I want to go to school with all you guys!

Me too!  I think I would pick Chicago, though. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 10:11:02 PM
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Yes, but to say that the "borderline" varies from time to time and person to person means you risk making any resolutions you draw relativistic.

This is true, but it may be the only resolution. Like I said, though, we should be avoiding the definition of formal logic (systems of logic) as we know them to come to this resolution.

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Eliminating the vagueness of language is also not always possible - just take translation from English language to formal logic symbols.  Most sentences are capable of being expressed in symbols, but some you aren't going to be able to, maybe because of vagueness in how the sentence is expressed or even vagueness in the scope of a given quantifier.

Ah, but I didn't say that we should eliminate the vagueness of language. In fact, Hanfling's resolution embraces it, and recognizes that it's caused not just by humanity as a group, but by humans as individuals. You do have a point, though: how does the point where we begin to hesitate vary? From time to time and person to person, but how do we know when we begin to hesitate. And here's how: it's a feeling (ooh, metaphysical).

You get a little prickle in the back of your neck when you feel like someone is drifting too close to you when you're driving. Eventually, you'll swerve to avoid them. How did you determine the point when you decided to swerve. Unless you know exactly where your car and their car are with respect to each other (a lot of people think they know, but most don't), then you have no hard-and-fast definition. It was a feeling you had. You thought, "If they get any closer, they're going to hit me. I'd better move!" So you do. It's these feelings that are incorporated into everyday language. It's these feelings that make it so hard to get computers to make decisions like we do. How do you program a feeling? Fuzzy logic? Hardly. AI? Not quite yet... but maybe one day. And then the machines take over.  ;D

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So at best, eliminating vagueness and/or having personalized "borderlines" for each person is an incomplete resolution of the paradox.

I don't think this paradox has a single resolution, if any. The resolution, in a sense, is a feeling.

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Also, the other part about the "if" part being more true than the "then" part doesn't hold either - if you try to use the formal definition of conditionals (which I assume you are, since you're bringing in modus ponens), then you can't say that the antecedent is more true than the consequent.  It doesn't work that way.  Granted, if the "if" is true, then the "then" has to be true, or the entire conditional itself is false.  You don't say that the "if" is more true than the "then" - it's either True or False.

Again, we should be avoiding current formulations of formal logic if we hope to come to a resolution.

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EDIT: Whoops, forgot to address the 2nd quote: if the word "heap" can't be defined and consistently applied within a sentence/statement/argument, then yes, it is vague.  That is why people don't use "heap" arguments or any other form of slippery slope arguments, because they're logical fallacies.  The human language is vague, but it is possible to argue without using fuzzy logic.

People use "heap" arguments all the time! In fact, they're all over the law! What's an adult? A child? What's a lake? What is hot? Cold? Bald? Strong? Weak? We choose to assign values to these words, usually as a society, so we can make decisions based on these words. But the legal drinking age varies across the world, because different societies came to different agreements about what those words mean.

If we needed a hard-and-fast definition for the word heap, believe me, we'd come up with one (and by we, I mean lawyers).
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 10:13:47 PM
I don't really have anything to contribute here, but this is the best thread ever.  I love you people!

Brito, we love you for starting this craziness!

Please jump in!

Nah, my philosophy background is too shallow to contribute anything substantive to this discussion.  I'm just enjoying reading all this.  :)  On the one hand, I hope you get into Harvard.  But secretly, I hope we both end up at Chicago...

How about we both end up at Harvard? Or for that matter, how about we ALL (and by all, I mean everyone on this thread so far) end up at Harvard or Chicago?  I want to go to school with all you guys!

That would be awesome. Except not Harvard or Chicago, CLS. CLS, damn it!  ;D
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 10:15:35 PM

That would be awesome. Except not Harvard or Chicago, CLS. CLS, damn it!  ;D

You are hereby banished from my thread, Troll!

Okay, you can stay, but you have to grovel. 

And CLS seems pretty awesome, too.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 10:17:49 PM

Really? Reasons? And I believe this hijack is totally appropriate, since this thread IS in honor of Chicago :)

And EE, I just started reading Terry Pratchett again a few minutes ago, and my brain died.  I will be back with more arguments though! 

OK, seriously, we should all pick Harvard if we get in. We can pwn Harvard. HARVpwned.

What are you reading? The Discworld novels rule.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 10:19:41 PM

Really? Reasons? And I believe this hijack is totally appropriate, since this thread IS in honor of Chicago :)

And EE, I just started reading Terry Pratchett again a few minutes ago, and my brain died.  I will be back with more arguments though! 

OK, seriously, we should all pick Harvard if we get in. We can pwn Harvard. HARVpwned.

What are you reading? The Discworld novels rule.

YP.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 10:20:02 PM

That would be awesome. Except not Harvard or Chicago, CLS. CLS, damn it!  ;D

You are hereby banished from my thread, Troll!

Okay, you can stay, but you have to grovel. 

And CLS seems pretty awesome, too.

OK, OK. I love Chicago. I love the Daleys. I absolutely love corruption. I love the El. Please let me stay!!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 10:21:18 PM

That would be awesome. Except not Harvard or Chicago, CLS. CLS, damn it!  ;D

You are hereby banished from my thread, Troll!

Okay, you can stay, but you have to grovel. 

And CLS seems pretty awesome, too.
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OK, OK. I love Chicago. I love the Daleys. I absolutely love corruption. I love the El. Please let me stay!!

Only if you love Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte, too.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 10:23:53 PM
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YP.

???

I don't think we'll get yield-protected, though.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 10:24:29 PM

Really? Reasons? And I believe this hijack is totally appropriate, since this thread IS in honor of Chicago :)

And EE, I just started reading Terry Pratchett again a few minutes ago, and my brain died.  I will be back with more arguments though! 

OK, seriously, we should all pick Harvard if we get in. We can pwn Harvard. HARVpwned.

What are you reading? The Discworld novels rule.

Yes, Discworld!  I'm only on the 2nd in the series, The Light Fantastic, but I love it already. And I read Good Omens not too long ago.

It's great. You'll love it. On a semi-related note, but fantasy, I highly recommend the Elric saga (specifically, Elric of Melniboné, The Sailor on the Seas of Fate, and The Weird of the White Wolf). A little hard to find, but I found all three books (they're short) in one volume on ebay.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 10:26:49 PM

That would be awesome. Except not Harvard or Chicago, CLS. CLS, damn it!  ;D

You are hereby banished from my thread, Troll!

Okay, you can stay, but you have to grovel. 

And CLS seems pretty awesome, too.
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OK, OK. I love Chicago. I love the Daleys. I absolutely love corruption. I love the El. Please let me stay!!

Only if you love Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte, too.

Are you serious? It's my favorite painting ever. Seriously. I feel like Cameron in Ferris Bueller's Day Off every time I see it.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 10:30:37 PM

Are you serious? It's my favorite painting ever. Seriously. I feel like Cameron in Ferris Bueller's Day Off every time I see it.

TITCR.  Have you been to the Art Institute of Chicago to see it?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 10:34:33 PM

Are you serious? It's my favorite painting ever. Seriously. I feel like Cameron in Ferris Bueller's Day Off every time I see it.

TITCR.  Have you been to the Art Institute of Chicago to see it?

Yes! It's my favorite museum. Even beats all the science museums I've been to (and since I'm such a geek/dork/nerd, that's saying a lot). ;)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 10:36:00 PM

Are you serious? It's my favorite painting ever. Seriously. I feel like Cameron in Ferris Bueller's Day Off every time I see it.

TITCR.  Have you been to the Art Institute of Chicago to see it?

Yes! It's my favorite museum. Even beats all the science museums I've been to (and since I'm such a geek/dork/nerd, that's saying a lot). ;)

This needs to be the deciding factor in your law school decision.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 10:40:36 PM

Are you serious? It's my favorite painting ever. Seriously. I feel like Cameron in Ferris Bueller's Day Off every time I see it.

TITCR.  Have you been to the Art Institute of Chicago to see it?

Yes! It's my favorite museum. Even beats all the science museums I've been to (and since I'm such a geek/dork/nerd, that's saying a lot). ;)

This needs to be the deciding factor in your law school decision.

 :D :D

How can you even think of CLS when Chicago has your favorite museum in its city?? For shame, EE!

Because my favorite friends and family are in NY. Stupid reason, I know, but no more stupid than going for a museum, I guess. I do like Chicago better than NYC. Quite a bit better, actually. It's like NYC, only clean.

NYCers: please don't kill me. I'm sorry, but the City is dirty in many places. Chicago isn't nearly so.

Also, when I went to Chicago, I saw both the Wiener-mobile and the M&Ms-mobile. And I saw the best house Frank Lloyd Wright ever designed (FLW, as I like to call him). Built around a tree. It was freakin' sweet.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 10:41:37 PM
...and can you say no to Sue?

Yes. No, Sue! Bad Sue! Baaaad Sue.

EDIT: I'm going to be a lawyer. I guess I can't say no to Sue. Ha... ha... ha.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 10:43:11 PM

Also, when I went to Chicago, I saw both the Wiener-mobile and the M&Ms-mobile. And I saw the best house Frank Lloyd Wright ever designed (FLW, as I like to call him). Built around a tree. It was freakin' sweet.

I love Frank Lloyd Wright.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 10:44:57 PM

Also, when I went to Chicago, I saw both the Wiener-mobile and the M&Ms-mobile. And I saw the best house Frank Lloyd Wright ever designed (FLW, as I like to call him). Built around a tree. It was freakin' sweet.

I love Frank Lloyd Wright.

There's a bust of him in the park close to said house, but he doesn't have eyes. I didn't know that about FLW, but that just makes him all the more hardcore.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 10:46:12 PM

Sigh, those pesky friends and family members.  Mine are in Montana.  :-\ Does not help with the law school decision process.  Montana??? Sheesh.

Montana has mountains.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 10:47:55 PM

Sigh, those pesky friends and family members.  Mine are in Montana.  :-\ Does not help with the law school decision process.  Montana??? Sheesh.

Montana has mountains.

Are you drunk?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 10:54:35 PM

Also, when I went to Chicago, I saw both the Wiener-mobile and the M&Ms-mobile. And I saw the best house Frank Lloyd Wright ever designed (FLW, as I like to call him). Built around a tree. It was freakin' sweet.

I love Frank Lloyd Wright.

The University of Chicago owns the Robie House.

Are there classes in it? If so, my decision is made. :)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 10:55:31 PM

Sigh, those pesky friends and family members.  Mine are in Montana.  :-\ Does not help with the law school decision process.  Montana??? Sheesh.

Montana has mountains.

Are you drunk?

Am I Britomadness? No, you are.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 10:59:06 PM

Sigh, those pesky friends and family members.  Mine are in Montana.  :-\ Does not help with the law school decision process.  Montana??? Sheesh.

Montana has mountains.

Are you drunk?

Am I Britomadness? No, you are.

Love is a britomadness.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 11:00:15 PM
No, but you could take classes in the GSB and spend all your time in the lounge that looks over it.

Hmm... OK, I hold all decisions until offers of money are tendered.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 11:00:40 PM

Sigh, those pesky friends and family members.  Mine are in Montana.  :-\ Does not help with the law school decision process.  Montana??? Sheesh.

Montana has mountains.

Are you drunk?

Am I Britomadness? No, you are.

Love is a britomadness.

I always thought love was a britofield.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 11:01:29 PM

Sigh, those pesky friends and family members.  Mine are in Montana.  :-\ Does not help with the law school decision process.  Montana??? Sheesh.

Montana has mountains.

Are you drunk?

Am I Britomadness? No, you are.

Are you arguing with Mraz?  He's Mr. A to Z, you see, he's all about the wordplay.

Love is a britomadness.

I always thought love was a britofield.

Are you arguing with Mraz?  He's Mr. A to Z, you see.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 11:04:58 PM

Sigh, those pesky friends and family members.  Mine are in Montana.  :-\ Does not help with the law school decision process.  Montana??? Sheesh.

Montana has mountains.

Are you drunk?

Am I Britomadness? No, you are.

Are you arguing with Mraz?  He's Mr. A to Z, you see, he's all about the wordplay.

Love is a britomadness.

I always thought love was a britofield.

Are you arguing with Mraz?  He's Mr. A to Z, you see.

Pat Benatar > Jason M-Raz. BTW, nice job quoting and then editing, Tequila Face.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 11:06:34 PM

Sigh, those pesky friends and family members.  Mine are in Montana.  :-\ Does not help with the law school decision process.  Montana??? Sheesh.

Montana has mountains.

Are you drunk?

Am I Britomadness? No, you are.

Are you arguing with Mraz?  He's Mr. A to Z, you see, he's all about the wordplay.

Love is a britomadness.

I always thought love was a britofield.

Are you arguing with Mraz?  He's Mr. A to Z, you see.

Pat Benatar > Jason M-Raz. BTW, nice job quoting and then editing, Tequila Face.

Actually, my wireless connection timed out in the middle of my posting, so I had to go back and add the content.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 11:14:58 PM
Your wireless connection sucks. So... back to Chicago! Or Game Theory!

<there was a problem here, but I decided it was boring. Let's talk about Chicago.>
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 11:19:32 PM

Your wireless connection sucks. So... back to Chicago! Or Game Theory!

OK, here's a pretty easy one:

Suppose you have three boxes, each divided into two halves which you can open separately, each half containing one coin. One contains two gold coins (GG), another two silver coins (SS), and the last one of each (GS). What's the chance of selecting the GS box randomly? 1/3, clearly.

But suppose you select a box and open one side to reveal a gold coin. Then you have either GG or GS, so it seems your chance of selecting GS is 1/2. Same with silver (SS or GS). So your chance of getting GS was actually 1/2, right? No... but why not?

The scenario presupposes that you have already selected a box that contains one gold coin, and adjusting the original chance of picking GS to what you have upon selecting a box with a gold coin fails to take the original odds of selecting a box with a gold coin into account.  Oh well, I don't know.  I'm sure there's something here that I'm not getting.

Have you read The Mysterious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 11:21:35 PM

Your wireless connection sucks. So... back to Chicago! Or Game Theory!

OK, here's a pretty easy one:

Suppose you have three boxes, each divided into two halves which you can open separately, each half containing one coin. One contains two gold coins (GG), another two silver coins (SS), and the last one of each (GS). What's the chance of selecting the GS box randomly? 1/3, clearly.

But suppose you select a box and open one side to reveal a gold coin. Then you have either GG or GS, so it seems your chance of selecting GS is 1/2. Same with silver (SS or GS). So your chance of getting GS was actually 1/2, right? No... but why not?

The scenario presupposes that you have already selected a box that contains one gold coin, and adjusting the original chance of picking GS to what you have upon selecting a box with a gold coin fails to take the original odds of selecting a box with a gold coin into account.  Oh well, I don't know.  I'm sure there's something here that I'm not getting.

Have you read The Mysterious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time?

Correct, and no. Should I?

EDIT: Well, not exactly. The error is that you assume that if the first coin is gold, the chance that the other is gold is the same as that the other is silver. It's not, silver is less likely. And vice-versa.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 11:22:40 PM

Your wireless connection sucks. So... back to Chicago! Or Game Theory!

OK, here's a pretty easy one:

Suppose you have three boxes, each divided into two halves which you can open separately, each half containing one coin. One contains two gold coins (GG), another two silver coins (SS), and the last one of each (GS). What's the chance of selecting the GS box randomly? 1/3, clearly.

But suppose you select a box and open one side to reveal a gold coin. Then you have either GG or GS, so it seems your chance of selecting GS is 1/2. Same with silver (SS or GS). So your chance of getting GS was actually 1/2, right? No... but why not?

The scenario presupposes that you have already selected a box that contains one gold coin, and adjusting the original chance of picking GS to what you have upon selecting a box with a gold coin fails to take the original odds of selecting a box with a gold coin into account.  Oh well, I don't know.  I'm sure there's something here that I'm not getting.

Have you read The Mysterious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time?

Correct, and no. Should I?

The chapters are not numbered in the regular way, but instead all have prime numbers.  Infer from that what you will.  And this relates back to the earlier discussion:  The narrator is an autistic savant.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 11:26:46 PM
So... Chicago? They have sports.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 11:28:42 PM

I have. I liked it very much.


I think Mr. Salamander would like it, too.

Who cares about sports, Mr. Sal?  The only sports I care about are Moot Court and figure skating.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 11:31:56 PM
What about synchronized swimming?

Not cold enough.  Ice = prestige.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 11:40:20 PM
What about synchronized swimming?

Not cold enough.  Ice = prestige.

I'd say that this was true because Harvard has an ice rink on campus, but... Cornell. Enough said.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 11:43:53 PM
What about synchronized swimming?

Not cold enough.  Ice = prestige.

I'd say that this was true because Harvard has an ice rink on campus[/i], but... Cornell. Enough said.

Where??? I never knew about that.

It's a temporary thing for winter, I guess. Not sure where, but I've seen pictures.

On a related note, it's like 20 degrees right now. In Las Vegas. And there's a hail storm warning.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 11:47:00 PM
What about synchronized swimming?

Not cold enough.  Ice = prestige.

I'd say that this was true because Harvard has an ice rink on campus[/i], but... Cornell. Enough said.

Where??? I never knew about that.

It's a temporary thing for winter, I guess. Not sure where, but I've seen pictures.

On a related note, it's like 20 degrees right now. In Las Vegas. And there's a hail storm warning.

Las Vegas is very prestigious tonight, then.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 11:53:10 PM
What about synchronized swimming?

Not cold enough.  Ice = prestige.

I'd say that this was true because Harvard has an ice rink on campus[/i], but... Cornell. Enough said.

Where??? I never knew about that.

It's a temporary thing for winter, I guess. Not sure where, but I've seen pictures.

On a related note, it's like 20 degrees right now. In Las Vegas. And there's a hail storm warning.

Las Vegas is very prestigious tonight, then.

It's like Cooley. Usually TTT, but prestigious in its own mind.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 13, 2007, 11:54:12 PM

It's like Cooley. Usually TTT, but prestigious in its own mind.

I think it is more prestigious than Reno.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 13, 2007, 11:55:49 PM

It's like Cooley. Usually TTT, but prestigious in its own mind.

I think it is more prestigious than Reno.

Yes, like Cooley is more prestigious than Whittier.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 14, 2007, 12:05:13 AM

It's like Cooley. Usually TTT, but prestigious in its own mind.

I think it is more prestigious than Reno.

Yes, like Cooley is more prestigious than Whittier.

That's probably accurate.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 14, 2007, 12:06:27 AM
So, uh, is anyone actually talking about Chicago?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 14, 2007, 12:10:56 AM
So, uh, is anyone actually talking about Chicago?

I really want to to go to Chicago.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 14, 2007, 12:12:24 AM
So, uh, is anyone actually talking about Chicago?

I really want to to go to Chicago.

are you MAD about going there though? 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 14, 2007, 12:13:10 AM
So, uh, is anyone actually talking about Chicago?

I really want to to go to Chicago.

are you MAD about going there though? 

It's not falsified to say that I am. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 14, 2007, 12:14:42 AM
So, uh, is anyone actually talking about Chicago?

Chicago has the Billy Goat tavern.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 14, 2007, 12:18:00 AM
I have this urge to commit a crime with an accomplice and get caught by the police.  Strange?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 14, 2007, 12:21:30 AM
I have this urge to commit a crime with an accomplice and get caught by the police.  Strange?

Only if that urge is accompanied by a strong desire to wear matching suits, sunglasses, and sing the blues.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 14, 2007, 12:25:38 AM
I have this urge to commit a crime with an accomplice and get caught by the police.  Strange?

Only if that urge is accompanied by a strong desire to wear matching suits, sunglasses, and sing the blues.

I want a matching suit, too.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: theprofessor on January 14, 2007, 03:42:54 AM


Because my favorite friends and family are in NY. Stupid reason, I know, but no more stupid than going for a museum, I guess. I do like Chicago better than NYC. Quite a bit better, actually. It's like NYC, only clean.



I'm in the exact same position, actually. I like NYC for the most part, but Chicago is so much nicer. I like CLS, but Chicago so much more. If it weren't for the fact that almost all of my friends are in NYC, it would be a very easy decision if I were to get into both. The way it looks now, if I end up liking CLS half as much as Chicago after the ASW's, I'll probably go there. If only I could come up with a good objective means of testing how much I like each school...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: theprofessor on January 14, 2007, 03:47:14 AM
What about synchronized swimming?

Not cold enough.  Ice = prestige.

I'd say that this was true because Harvard has an ice rink on campus, but... Cornell. Enough said.

Just want to point out that Chicago also has an ice rink on campus. Right on the Midway across the street from the law school, in fact. It is also nice and big...I read somewhere that Harvard's was tiny. Also, I went to Cornell for UG, and Chicago, to me, feels colder. More biting. Chicago wins the ice prestige battle.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: akakakaka on January 14, 2007, 07:38:14 AM
This should be the big week if LSN from last year is any indication
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on January 14, 2007, 09:38:01 AM
This should be the big week if LSN from last year is any indication

Wasn't Chicago behind a week with their ED decisions this year? If that's true, next week will be the big one if we're following patterns from last year (assuming that the release dates of ED decisions directly impact the rest of the decisions).
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 14, 2007, 09:46:21 AM
This should be the big week if LSN from last year is any indication

Wasn't Chicago behind a week with their ED decisions this year? If that's true, next week will be the big one if we're following patterns from last year (assuming that the release dates of ED decisions directly impact the rest of the decisions).

Oh no, I hope that isn't true.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 14, 2007, 10:30:40 AM
I dropped off a check that never arrived at the Chicago Admissions office on Friday, and there were applications piled everywhere on the desk of the guy I handed the check to.


This is an interesting report.  I don't know if we can infer anything from it, but it's good to know they're working hard...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 14, 2007, 10:39:54 AM
I'm kind of thinking that next week won't be the big week at all.  Everybody seems to be behind this year compared to last year.  I'm thinking the week after at the soonest. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: mL4300ic on January 14, 2007, 11:50:51 AM
I'm kind of thinking that next week won't be the big week at all.  Everybody seems to be behind this year compared to last year.  I'm thinking the week after at the soonest. 

I've been noticing this as well. Why do you think this is? Is this year really so different from years past in terms of LS admissions?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 14, 2007, 11:56:14 AM
I'm kind of thinking that next week won't be the big week at all.  Everybody seems to be behind this year compared to last year.  I'm thinking the week after at the soonest. 

I've been noticing this as well. Why do you think this is? Is this year really so different from years past in terms of LS admissions?

Maybe last year was unusually quick; maybe the schools don't know how to handle the new ABA reporting policy wrt multiple LSAT scores; maybe applications are down, and adcoms are waiting to get more in before issuing decisions.  I think Virginia's tardiness had to do with its new early decision program.  Obviously they would focus on those applications first, as opposed to last year when they did them all at the same time.  Harvard actually made more decisions earlier this year, and I think Georgetown and NYU were about the same this year as last.  So it's just a hunch really, but I don't think we'll hear from Cchicago this week.   
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: mL4300ic on January 14, 2007, 12:05:59 PM
Harvard actually made more decisions earlier this year   

That doesn't bode well for me. :(
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 14, 2007, 12:09:42 PM
Harvard actually made more decisions earlier this year   

That doesn't bode well for me. :(

Me neither.

 :( :(
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 14, 2007, 12:23:03 PM
I'm kind of thinking that next week won't be the big week at all.  Everybody seems to be behind this year compared to last year.  I'm thinking the week after at the soonest. 

I've been noticing this as well. Why do you think this is? Is this year really so different from years past in terms of LS admissions?

Maybe last year was unusually quick; maybe the schools don't know how to handle the new ABA reporting policy wrt multiple LSAT scores; maybe applications are down, and adcoms are waiting to get more in before issuing decisions.  I think Virginia's tardiness had to do with its new early decision program.  Obviously they would focus on those applications first, as opposed to last year when they did them all at the same time.  Harvard actually made more decisions earlier this year, and I think Georgetown and NYU were about the same this year as last.  So it's just a hunch really, but I don't think we'll hear from Cchicago this week.   

Or this could be Hank's safeguard to prevent crushed hopes next week when no word comes. 


FYI:  I'm sitting in the airport and just saw the plane I'm going to get on land

Hah, why would we need that information?

Are you saying that my hopes will be crushed?   :(
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on January 14, 2007, 01:38:58 PM
This should be the big week if LSN from last year is any indication

Wasn't Chicago behind a week with their ED decisions this year? If that's true, next week will be the big one if we're following patterns from last year (assuming that the release dates of ED decisions directly impact the rest of the decisions).

They had decisions by the 20th, and last year was the 21st so it seems they were right on schedule for the EDs.

Oh...I thought last year was the 15th (for acceptances...denials came the week later)...guess I'm just a little rusty on my Chicago timeline. That said. I don't care when my decision comes. just as long as it's an acceptance and it comes in time for me to send in a deposit. I LOVE CHICAGO (the university and the city).  ;D
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Trekkie Monster on January 14, 2007, 11:14:02 PM
As I understand it, no deposit at Chicago!  ;D  Poor unemployed people like me are quite grateful for it.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: mL4300ic on January 14, 2007, 11:57:26 PM
So they started sending out decisions via snail mail around this time last year?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 15, 2007, 12:01:29 AM
So they started sending out decisions via snail mail around this time last year?

It's on lawschoolnumbers.com.  Last year around the 17th through 20th many regular decisions came out. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: mL4300ic on January 15, 2007, 12:14:12 AM
It's on lawschoolnumbers.com.  Last year around the 17th through 20th many regular decisions came out. 

I hate being on the better coast during admissions season. I normally don't find out about decisions until 2-3 days after my counterparts on the east/midwest do.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Trekkie Monster on January 15, 2007, 12:28:49 AM
I was under the impression that many Chicago acceptances came via phone.  Of course, they send mail too, but...you know...be paranoid and never go too far away from your phone.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: theprofessor on January 15, 2007, 07:01:23 AM
I was under the impression that many Chicago acceptances came via phone.  Of course, they send mail too, but...you know...be paranoid and never go too far away from your phone.

And don't forget to compulsively check your caller ID every time the phone rings...area code 773!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 15, 2007, 12:45:26 PM
I predict that acceptances will begin on the 17th, and I won't get one that day.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 15, 2007, 12:46:57 PM
I predict that acceptances will begin on the 17th, and I won't get one that day.

When do you predict they will accept you?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 15, 2007, 12:49:05 PM
I predict that acceptances will begin on the 17th, and I won't get one that day.

When do you predict they will accept you?

I predict she will be accepted on the 18th.

You take the 17th and 18th; I'll take every other day. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 15, 2007, 12:50:53 PM
I predict that acceptances will begin on the 17th, and I won't get one that day.

When do you predict they will accept you?

I predict she will be accepted on the 18th.

That'd be neat, but the 17th would be better.  It's my birthday.  I might edit this later, since that's too much information.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: theprofessor on January 15, 2007, 12:51:44 PM
I predict that acceptances will begin on the 17th, and I won't get one that day.

This thought gets me worried. Being that I went complete on 9/22, if I don't get an acceptance on the first day, I will be officially freaking the hell out :)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: mL4300ic on January 15, 2007, 01:00:22 PM
That'd be neat, but the 17th would be better.  It's my birthday.  I might edit this later, since that's too much information.

Congrats! My b-day is coming up next week. I applied really late to Chicago (late Nov) so I don't think I'll be hearing any time soon. They do go in order, right?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: akakakaka on January 15, 2007, 01:01:03 PM
I am going to be bold and predict TOMORROW.  Actually, it's less of a prediction and more of what I wish would happen  ;)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 15, 2007, 09:40:00 PM
Is everyone giving up so soon?  We've got to keep this going!   :D
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 15, 2007, 09:41:08 PM
Is everyone giving up so soon?  We've got to keep this going!   :D

If I don't get a decision tomorrow, then yes--I'm giving up.  It will be Cooley for me. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 15, 2007, 09:42:04 PM
Is everyone giving up so soon?  We've got to keep this going!   :D

If I don't get a decision tomorrow, then yes--I'm giving up.  It will be Cooley for me. 

You might have to settle for NYU.  It's a little too late in the cycle for Cooley with your numbers.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 15, 2007, 09:45:35 PM
Is everyone giving up so soon?  We've got to keep this going!   :D

If I don't get a decision tomorrow, then yes--I'm giving up.  It will be Cooley for me. 

You might have to settle for NYU.  It's a little too late in the cycle for Cooley with your numbers.

I dunno, I'd say for me Virginia > NYU > Cooley.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 15, 2007, 09:48:13 PM
Is everyone giving up so soon?  We've got to keep this going!   :D

If I don't get a decision tomorrow, then yes--I'm giving up.  It will be Cooley for me. 

You might have to settle for NYU.  It's a little too late in the cycle for Cooley with your numbers.

I dunno, I'd say for me Virginia > NYU > Cooley.

Maybe.  Damn, I'm going to have a hard decision in a couple of months.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 15, 2007, 09:51:29 PM
Mmm, I would rather have a Chicago vs. Columbia decision than a Virginia vs. NYU decision.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 15, 2007, 09:52:26 PM
Mmm, I would rather have a Chicago vs. Columbia decision than a Virginia vs. NYU decision.

I'd like to have the C v. C. v. N. v. V($$) decision.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 15, 2007, 09:55:03 PM
Mmm, I would rather have a Chicago vs. Columbia decision than a Virginia vs. NYU decision.

I'd like to have the C v. C. v. N. v. V($$) decision.

I kind of think we will.  Which would you pick right now?  What if you got $$ at a C?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 15, 2007, 09:56:35 PM
Mmm, I would rather have a Chicago vs. Columbia decision than a Virginia vs. NYU decision.

I'd like to have the C v. C. v. N. v. V($$) decision.

I kind of think we will.  Which would you pick right now?  What if you got $$ at a C?

What about M? Or D? Or B? Especially B for me...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 15, 2007, 09:58:00 PM
Mmm, I would rather have a Chicago vs. Columbia decision than a Virginia vs. NYU decision.

I'd like to have the C v. C. v. N. v. V($$) decision.

I kind of think we will.  Which would you pick right now?  What if you got $$ at a C?

What about M? Or D?

The more pressing issue is, what about L?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 15, 2007, 09:58:10 PM
Mmm, I would rather have a Chicago vs. Columbia decision than a Virginia vs. NYU decision.

I'd like to have the C v. C. v. N. v. V($$) decision.

I kind of think we will.  Which would you pick right now?  What if you got $$ at a C?

Yeah, my ultimate decision would be $$ at a C v. $$$ at V.

If the C is Chi, well... I think I know which I'd pick.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 15, 2007, 09:59:59 PM
Mmm, I would rather have a Chicago vs. Columbia decision than a Virginia vs. NYU decision.

I'd like to have the C v. C. v. N. v. V($$) decision.

I kind of think we will.  Which would you pick right now?  What if you got $$ at a C?

Yeah, my ultimate decision would be $$ at a C v. $$$ at V.

If the C is Chi, well... I think I know which I'd pick.

I'd take C over $$ at C. But I'm just C like that.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 15, 2007, 10:00:30 PM
Mmm, I would rather have a Chicago vs. Columbia decision than a Virginia vs. NYU decision.

I'd like to have the C v. C. v. N. v. V($$) decision.

I kind of think we will.  Which would you pick right now?  What if you got $$ at a C?

What about M? Or D? Or B? Especially B for me...

Brito didn't apply to B, you C.  D doesn't seem likely to offer more $ than V.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 15, 2007, 10:02:17 PM
I didn't apply to B or D or M. 

And this is all assuming H and Y are not in the equation.  That would make it hard too. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 15, 2007, 10:02:44 PM
Mmm, I would rather have a Chicago vs. Columbia decision than a Virginia vs. NYU decision.

I'd like to have the C v. C. v. N. v. V($$) decision.

I kind of think we will.  Which would you pick right now?  What if you got $$ at a C?

Yeah, my ultimate decision would be $$ at a C v. $$$ at V.

If the C is Chi, well... I think I know which I'd pick.

I'd take C over $$ at C. But I'm just silly like that.

TITCR
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 15, 2007, 10:02:53 PM
Mmm, I would rather have a Chicago vs. Columbia decision than a Virginia vs. NYU decision.

I'd like to have the C v. C. v. N. v. V($$) decision.

I kind of think we will.  Which would you pick right now?  What if you got $$ at a C?

What about M? Or D?

The more pressing issue is, what about L?

I think we all want L, that much is C.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 15, 2007, 10:03:25 PM
Mmm, I would rather have a Chicago vs. Columbia decision than a Virginia vs. NYU decision.

I'd like to have the C v. C. v. N. v. V($$) decision.

I kind of think we will.  Which would you pick right now?  What if you got $$ at a C?

What about M? Or D?

The more pressing issue is, what about L?

I think we all want L, that much is C.

Lox?  Is that why you prefer C to C?

Or is it LiteBrite?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 15, 2007, 10:04:31 PM
I didn't apply to B or D or M. 

And this is all assuming H and Y are not in the equation.  That would make it hard too. 

I think I'd pick Chi over H.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: sillyberry on January 15, 2007, 10:05:03 PM
I didn't apply to B or D or S or M. 

That's not what I heard...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 15, 2007, 10:05:39 PM
I didn't apply to B or D or M. 

And this is all assuming H and Y are not in the equation.  That would make it hard too. 

Let's not forget about G. G is still in the G.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 15, 2007, 10:06:44 PM
Mmm, I would rather have a Chicago vs. Columbia decision than a Virginia vs. NYU decision.

I'd like to have the C v. C. v. N. v. V($$) decision.

I kind of think we will.  Which would you pick right now?  What if you got $$ at a C?

What about M? Or D?

The more pressing issue is, what about L?

I think we all want L, that much is C.

Lox?  Is that why you prefer C to C?

Or is it LiteBrite?

Both, but you have to switch the C's for each.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 15, 2007, 10:08:20 PM
I didn't apply to B or D or S or M. 

That's not what I heard...

 ???

I'd put N and V over G. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 15, 2007, 10:09:26 PM
I didn't apply to B or D or S or M. 

That's not what I heard...

 :D I've applied to all those. In fact, I apply to all those every once in a while so I don't get bored.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 15, 2007, 10:10:05 PM
You guys are so confusing, don't you know it's all about H?


If you're referring to the distinction between C and Ch, then this is true.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 15, 2007, 10:10:38 PM
I didn't apply to B or D or S or M. 

That's not what I heard...

 ???

I'd put N and V over G. 

Look at the quote again...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 15, 2007, 10:12:22 PM
I didn't apply to B or D or S or M. 

That's not what I heard...

 :D I've applied to all those. In fact, I apply to all those every once in a while so I don't get bored.

Why M?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 15, 2007, 10:14:47 PM
I didn't apply to B or D or S or M. 

That's not what I heard...

 ???

I'd put N and V over G. 

Look at the quote again...

Is there a sexual innuendo I'm missing?  Remember, I'm innocent. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 15, 2007, 10:15:21 PM
I didn't apply to B or D or S or M. 

That's not what I heard...

 :D I've applied to all those. In fact, I apply to all those every once in a while so I don't get bored.

Why M?

Why not?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 15, 2007, 10:16:57 PM

Is there a sexual innuendo I'm missing?  Remember, I'm innocent. 

Oh please, I'm the Knight of Chastity, and I got it.   ::)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 15, 2007, 10:16:57 PM
I didn't apply to B or D or S or M. 

That's not what I heard...

 ???

I'd put N and V over G. 

Look at the quote again...

Is there a sexual innuendo I'm missing?  Remember, I'm innocent. 

Yes, and yes, you are. :)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 15, 2007, 10:21:07 PM
 ::)

I'll just assume it has something to do with the S and the M. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 15, 2007, 10:23:55 PM
Here's a hint...

 >:( :'(
 >:( :'(
 >:( :'(
 >:( :-*
 8)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 15, 2007, 10:24:51 PM
::)

I'll just assume it has something to do with the S and the M. 

Yeah...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 15, 2007, 10:25:20 PM
Anywho... about the countdown... when do you think the CLS acceptances will start?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 15, 2007, 10:25:41 PM
January 25
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 15, 2007, 10:29:12 PM
Anywho... about the countdown... when do you think the CLS acceptances will start?

The week after Chicago.  In order to create the illusion of prestige.    

And mpark, I'm much more subtle than that!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 15, 2007, 10:32:47 PM
Anywho... about the countdown... when do you think the CLS acceptances will start?

The week after Chicago.  In order to create the illusion of prestige.    

And mpark, I'm much more subtle than that!

 ::) Oh I don't know, I mean, have you seen your PSA: HR is a shameless flirt page???

No...what is it called again?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: lyquidmyrrrh on January 16, 2007, 03:28:44 PM
bump

Any news?  Even pseudo-new news?

I feel like I have been counting down for a long time.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: akakakaka on January 16, 2007, 03:30:31 PM
bump

Any news?  Even pseudo-new news?

I feel like I have been counting down for a long time.

I wish :(  Well, per LSN last year acceptances started on the 17th, so maybe there will be some good news tomorrow.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: poiuyt on January 16, 2007, 03:47:10 PM
How do you check your status? Will they email you when you go complete?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: lyquidmyrrrh on January 16, 2007, 03:50:12 PM
yes, they will e-mail you.  My completion happened in about one to 1.5 weeks but that was way back in October.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: amaterasu on January 16, 2007, 04:28:30 PM
yes, they will e-mail you.  My completion happened in about one to 1.5 weeks but that was way back in October.

Mine took ~3 weeks with my application going out in mid-December. (Although, if you don't count the holiday week as a week, then it's about 2 weeks which is kind of close to your time frame).

I'm pretty sure they email you any time your status changes (all the emails I've received thus far imply as much). Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) they don't have an online status checker...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Trekkie Monster on January 16, 2007, 05:28:18 PM
My complete notice took a while as well. I applied in late OCT.  They said that my file was complete on whatever day it was complete.  However, they only email people complete notices in batches.  Therefore, you may have a to wait a few days  after going complete to receive your email but you will be complete on whatever day you actually were. The only way to know for sure though is to call them.  I wouldn't bother them though. Their admissions has weird office hours for answering phones.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: akakakaka on January 16, 2007, 08:49:11 PM
So, will tomorrow be the big day?  I certainly hope so.  Guess we'll see soon enough, hope everyone gets that phone call tomorrow!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 16, 2007, 09:11:33 PM
FWIW, I think in the past two years, they have made phone call acceptances.  They also follow up with an e-mail that says "We tried to call you, but you weren't around, congratulations."  A lot of people report getting the e-mail even though they swear they never heard their phone ring.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 16, 2007, 09:12:29 PM
FWIW, I think in the past two years, they have made phone call acceptances.  They also follow up with an e-mail that says "We tried to call you, but you weren't around, congratulations."  A lot of people report getting the e-mail even though they swear they never heard their phone ring.

Useful info, as always.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: mL4300ic on January 16, 2007, 09:15:41 PM
I was really satisfied with my Chicago app... I went complete within a week of clicking send in LSAC, which was about the same turnaround I got from Virginia and Georgetown.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: halluv on January 16, 2007, 09:17:16 PM
Please Chicago..it's really time. If I'm going to be living in Hyde Park, I need to start looking for apts now!!!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 16, 2007, 09:35:01 PM
Also, I saw some stuff earlier in the thread about people basing law school choice on where their friends are, family is, etc.

This is just my opinion, but I really think this is a mistake.  I could see a significant other who can't move being an important factor, but otherwise, why not get out of your comfort zone and try something else for three years?  You have the entire rest of your life to go back to that city where your friends and family are.

I know that comes across as Chicago trolling on a thread where some people have said they like Chicago, but would rather be in X other city because of family or friends.  But I really want that to apply broadly.  If your comfort zone is Chicago, go check out California at Stanford or CLS/NYU in NYC.  As long as you don't shortchange your long-term opportunities (which won't happen as long as you are deciding between HYSCC), you might as well give something new a try for a few years.

I'm likely headed right back to Texas, but I'm really glad I got out for awhile.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 16, 2007, 09:42:16 PM

I know that comes across as Chicago trolling on a thread where some people have said they like Chicago, but would rather be in X other city because of family or friends.  But I really want that to apply broadly.  If your comfort zone is Chicago, go check out California at Stanford or CLS/NYU in NYC.  As long as you don't shortchange your long-term opportunities (which won't happen as long as you are deciding between HYSCC), you might as well give something new a try for a few years.



I know that I've mentioned a couple times wanting to go to New York because I know people there and have family there, but it would still be out of my comfort zone since I've never really spent more than a few days there.  I guess I was thinking this could be a sort of compromise between being out of my comfort zone and still having people to fall back on. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 16, 2007, 09:44:48 PM
Also, I saw some stuff earlier in the thread about people basing law school choice on where their friends are, family is, etc.

This is just my opinion, but I really think this is a mistake.  I could see a significant other who can't move being an important factor, but otherwise, why not get out of your comfort zone and try something else for three years?  You have the entire rest of your life to go back to that city where your friends and family are.

I know that comes across as Chicago trolling on a thread where some people have said they like Chicago, but would rather be in X other city because of family or friends.  But I really want that to apply broadly.  If your comfort zone is Chicago, go check out California at Stanford or CLS/NYU in NYC.  As long as you don't shortchange your long-term opportunities (which won't happen as long as you are deciding between HYSCC), you might as well give something new a try for a few years.

I'm likely headed right back to Texas, but I'm really glad I got out for awhile.

Ah, that's just it though... NYC is out of my comfort zone. Way out. It just so happens that my best friend and a bunch of my family lives close by.

I rate CLS, Chicago, and NYU pretty closely (EDIT: Actually, CLS has always been my #1 choice, and I just don't anything overtaking it... right now, at least). The friends/family thing is the factor that currently puts CLS and NYU over Chicago for me. I'm open, though, and if I were to get into all of them, and Chicago showed me something special, I'd go without hesitation.

It's also a nice little happy coincidence that CLS places so well in NYC, which is certainly where I want to end up.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 16, 2007, 10:10:44 PM
It's weird how the comfort zone thing works, isn't it?  I was all set on going to NYC, down to applying ED at CLS, but now that I'm closer to graduation, I keep realizing how much I'm going to miss Boston, and how I would stay here if I could.

Fortunately, I have no desire to stay where I am.  But it's not cool like Boston.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: akakakaka on January 17, 2007, 03:18:56 PM
No action today?  Not cool Chicago.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 17, 2007, 03:25:08 PM
No action today?  Not cool Chicago.

Nope.   :(

I'm still betting no one hears till next week.  Although I would be more than glad to walk out of class tomorrow on account of a phone call from a 773 area code...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: akakakaka on January 17, 2007, 03:36:37 PM
FWIW, I think in the past two years, they have made phone call acceptances.  They also follow up with an e-mail that says "We tried to call you, but you weren't around, congratulations."  A lot of people report getting the e-mail even though they swear they never heard their phone ring.

Please go to the admissions office tomorrow and find out when we can expect decisions  :)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 17, 2007, 03:54:23 PM
No action today?  Not cool Chicago.

Nope.   :(

I'm still betting no one hears till next week.  Although I would be more than glad to walk out of class tomorrow on account of a phone call from a 773 area code...

I had a feeling my prediction would be wrong. D'oheth.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: BYOB on January 17, 2007, 03:59:29 PM
In at Chicago by phone call at 4:30 today
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 17, 2007, 04:10:17 PM
In at Chicago by phone call at 4:30 today

SRSLY?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 17, 2007, 04:18:53 PM
I think I wouldn't even recognize the 773 code if I saw it, if I were in the middle of class.  I'd just assume it was a random call and leave it to go to voicemail. That is, if they ever call me....Chicago, where are you???

I am always so bored in class that I check every phone call I get.  I'm sure you are busy paying attention, taking notes etc.  Boring. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: BYOB on January 17, 2007, 04:19:53 PM
In at Chicago by phone call at 4:30 today

SRSLY?

Is a frog's a-hole water-tight?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: lovelyavocado on January 17, 2007, 04:21:38 PM
CONGRATULATIONS

color me totally jealous
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: akakakaka on January 17, 2007, 04:40:14 PM
In at Chicago by phone call at 4:30 today

NO WAI
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 17, 2007, 05:13:47 PM
In at Chicago by phone call at 4:30 today

SRSLY?

Is a frog's a-hole water-tight?

Depends. Is the frog getting screwed in the ass?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 17, 2007, 05:15:21 PM
I think I wouldn't even recognize the 773 code if I saw it, if I were in the middle of class.  I'd just assume it was a random call and leave it to go to voicemail. That is, if they ever call me....Chicago, where are you???

I am always so bored in class that I check every phone call I get.  I'm sure you are busy paying attention, taking notes etc.  Boring. 

Hey don't judge! Just because someone hasn't started classes yet and is bored out of his mind...

Just saying...even if I am in a ten-person class and the professor is asking me a direct question, if I get a call from Chicago I will walk out of into the hallway. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: lyquidmyrrrh on January 17, 2007, 05:56:28 PM
Let's hope for news tomorrow.  That acceptance better not be flame...

Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: halluv on January 17, 2007, 06:11:24 PM
Let's hope for news tomorrow.  That acceptance better not be flame...



Mmmm...My money is on it being a flame (no activity on LSN),  but I will hope with you that there will acceptances tomorrow.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 17, 2007, 06:32:48 PM
There were no new invites to the facebook group either.

What's the facebook group called?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: akakakaka on January 17, 2007, 07:13:57 PM
it must be flame.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 17, 2007, 07:22:08 PM
Surely it was flame.  I'd rather believe that acceptances haven't started yet than that they've started and none of us have heard.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 17, 2007, 07:22:46 PM
Surely it was flame.  I'd rather believe that acceptances haven't started yet than that they've started and none of us have heard.

Obviously an impossibility.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 17, 2007, 07:48:37 PM
Surely it was flame.  I'd rather believe that acceptances haven't started yet than that they've started and none of us have heard.

Obviously an impossibility.

A statistical improbability.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: ciao-a-bunga on January 17, 2007, 07:50:22 PM
What's the facebook group called?

You can probably go to "My Groups" and enter "Chicago 2010" and pull it up...

Does anyone else find it really bizarre that this official facebook group exists...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 17, 2007, 07:52:46 PM
What's the facebook group called?

You can probably go to "My Groups" and enter "Chicago 2010" and pull it up...

Does anyone else find it really bizarre that this official facebook group exists...

I guess it's for people who got in ED.  I don't see what's wrong with it.  Law School facebook groups are fairly prestigious, especially "Official" ones. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: ciao-a-bunga on January 17, 2007, 07:54:44 PM
What's the facebook group called?

You can probably go to "My Groups" and enter "Chicago 2010" and pull it up...

Does anyone else find it really bizarre that this official facebook group exists...

I guess it's for people who got in ED.  I don't see what's wrong with it.  Law School facebook groups are fairly prestigious, especially "Official" ones. 

Hmm... well I guess I'm not in the loop.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 17, 2007, 09:37:03 PM
Who says tomorrow? 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 17, 2007, 09:39:35 PM
Who says tomorrow? 

Very likely. 

If we say it enough times, it will be true. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: halluv on January 17, 2007, 09:47:15 PM
Who says tomorrow? 

Very likely. 

If we say it enough times, it will be true. 

It worked for Virginia.................even tually
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 17, 2007, 09:48:34 PM
Who says tomorrow? 

Very likely. 

If we say it enough times, it will be true. 

It worked for Virginia.................even tually

It will work unless Chicago just decides not to hand out decisions. 

But they should want everyone on LSD, if they know what's good for them.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 18, 2007, 12:32:04 AM
What's the facebook group called?

You can probably go to "My Groups" and enter "Chicago 2010" and pull it up...

Does anyone else find it really bizarre that this official facebook group exists...

The 1L class has done it unofficially for the past 2 years; I think it's about time they just made it official.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: prajna on January 18, 2007, 06:38:06 AM
please Chicago, show us a sign that you are thinking of us.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: topher on January 18, 2007, 08:25:53 AM
Okay, Bacon, I'm visualising it, and nothing's happening still. Am I doing something wrong?   ;D  And do we have a consensus about whether or not that acceptance from yesterday was real?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 18, 2007, 08:47:18 AM
Okay, Bacon, I'm visualising it, and nothing's happening still. Am I doing something wrong?   ;D  And do we have a consensus about whether or not that acceptance from yesterday was real?

Try drinking some herbal tea.  Maybe add in some chanting... that might help.

Pretty sure it was fake.

I want to believe it's real, because that means acceptances have definitely started!

Isn't the rule that if it wasn't mike245, it's fake?  That's what I've always used...

 :D :D :D

From now on, I will.

And no word from mike245 yet, so it's still in the open.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: lyquidmyrrrh on January 18, 2007, 03:29:09 PM
bumpity, bump, bump...

Erg, Ann Perry was supposed to call me today...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: lyquidmyrrrh on January 18, 2007, 03:34:44 PM
haha, they notify by phone accepted candidates by phone, as far as I know.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: lyquidmyrrrh on January 18, 2007, 03:39:24 PM
oh no, i didn't know that.  That makes me feel a bit better about my previous useless post.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: mL4300ic on January 18, 2007, 03:42:24 PM
I should have applied earlier... I didn't send in my app until the end of November, hoping that they'd send me a fee waiver (which never materialized). How long do you think it'll be before I hear a decision? Sometime in February? March?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: annita on January 18, 2007, 03:54:18 PM
I should have applied earlier... I didn't send in my app until the end of November, hoping that they'd send me a fee waiver (which never materialized).

Seconded.  Still sad that I didn't get a fee waiver.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: 245 on January 18, 2007, 05:52:38 PM
Thanks for the many votes of confidence, but I also applied to Chicago pretty late (indecision coupled with the desire for a fee waiver).  I hope to hear from them soon, and good luck to everyone else! :)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: 245 on January 18, 2007, 05:55:30 PM
Thanks for the many votes of confidence, but I also applied to Chicago pretty late (indecision coupled with the desire for a fee waiver).  I hope to hear from them soon, and good luck to everyone else! :)

You mean tomorrow at 9:01 central, right?

Hehe, hopefully not *that* soon.  I'm usually still asleep that early.  Although I don't think I'd mind getting a wake-up call from Chicago...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 18, 2007, 07:41:29 PM
I applied in mid-November, so I'm going to try not to panic if I don't hear anything tomorrow.  It seems likely.  Still, I'm going to be at a debate tournament, and it would be great to get good news with all my friends around.  It's a good thing they won't call with a rejection, because that would suck terribly and, possibly, throw me off my game.

In any case, it's D-1!  Let's keep this thread going...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: mL4300ic on January 18, 2007, 08:13:23 PM
I don't think that's all that late.  Didn't you get a phone call from Harvard?  I think the strength of your application also has a lot to do with how quickly you get a response.  I consider myself a bubble applicant with a (hopefully) convincingly strong interest in Chicago, so I'm not anticipating hearing back for a while, even though I sent my stuff in in late October.

No, never got a call. I'm waiting for a hold e-mail, actually.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 18, 2007, 09:49:08 PM
Come on, now.  We can't let this thread go to Page 2 on the night before the (hopefully) big day!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 18, 2007, 09:59:21 PM
Come on, now.  We can't let this thread go to Page 2 on the night before the (hopefully) big day!

My bumps, my bumps my bumps my bumps!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 18, 2007, 10:05:11 PM
Come on, now.  We can't let this thread go to Page 2 on the night before the (hopefully) big day!

My bumps, my bumps my bumps my bumps!

Never do that.  Never again.

Why? What you gon' do with all that junk? All that junk inside your trunk?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 18, 2007, 10:06:17 PM
Come on, now.  We can't let this thread go to Page 2 on the night before the (hopefully) big day!

My bumps, my bumps my bumps my bumps!

Never do that.  Never again.

Why? What you gon' do with all that junk? All that junk inside your trunk?

I wish sometimes that I had never heard that song.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Schruted on January 18, 2007, 10:12:00 PM
Come on, now.  We can't let this thread go to Page 2 on the night before the (hopefully) big day!

What's supposed to happen tomorrow? Call? Email?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 18, 2007, 10:15:52 PM
Come on, now.  We can't let this thread go to Page 2 on the night before the (hopefully) big day!

What's supposed to happen tomorrow? Call? Email?

That's the word on the streets.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 18, 2007, 10:18:28 PM
Come on, now.  We can't let this thread go to Page 2 on the night before the (hopefully) big day!

My bumps, my bumps my bumps my bumps!

Never do that.  Never again.

Why? What you gon' do with all that junk? All that junk inside your trunk?

I wish sometimes that I had never heard that song.

Chicago drives us crazy
It does it on the daily
We ask them really nicely
But they won't roll the dice-ly
MindTheGap & Brito
mpark and then Hank-o
Caring, they be sharin'
All the juicy info

It's got us spending
Spendin' all our money and spendin' all our time
It's got us spending
Spendin' all our money on it, on it, on it
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 18, 2007, 10:49:45 PM
Come on, now.  We can't let this thread go to Page 2 on the night before the (hopefully) big day!

My bumps, my bumps my bumps my bumps!

Never do that.  Never again.

Why? What you gon' do with all that junk? All that junk inside your trunk?

I wish sometimes that I had never heard that song.

Chicago drives us crazy
It does it on the daily
We ask them really nicely
But they won't roll the dice-ly
MindTheGap & Brito
mpark and then Hank-o
Caring, they be sharin'
All the juicy info

It's got us spending
Spendin' all our money and spendin' all our time
It's got us spending
Spendin' all our money on it, on it, on it

174
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 19, 2007, 09:11:16 AM
I didn't actually know the lyrics, I had to look them up. I swear!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: liz21 on January 19, 2007, 09:44:23 AM
Just got a phone call from Chicago but of course I am an idiot and had my phone on silent...tried calling Michael Machen back but goes straight to voicemail....
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: well eggy on January 19, 2007, 09:45:40 AM
Just got a phone call from Chicago but of course I am an idiot and had my phone on silent...tried calling Michael Machen back but goes straight to voicemail....

wow...

congrats!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: JohnStewart on January 19, 2007, 09:46:37 AM
This is my flame account, but I'm too lazy to make a real one.  In at Chicago at 12:40, by phone call.

Call me a liar if you want, but acceptances have started
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: mL4300ic on January 19, 2007, 09:48:14 AM
Congrats! When did you all go complete?

I guess the rumors were true after all.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: JohnStewart on January 19, 2007, 09:49:06 AM
Congrats! When did you all go complete?

I guess the rumors were true after all.

I went complete way back in October
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: liz21 on January 19, 2007, 09:50:11 AM
thanks! still haven't gotten through to him though, gahhh...

i went complete in october too
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 19, 2007, 09:52:48 AM
Congrats everyone so far!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: JohnStewart on January 19, 2007, 09:56:40 AM
Wow. I'm in! Just got a call. Awkwardly at the office of course.

Um. Wow.

ASW is April 12-14th if anyone's wondering...

Withdraw now and put in a word for me.   ;)

I'll be withdrawing soon if they don't send a good $$ offer
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: prajna on January 19, 2007, 10:13:56 AM
 :-\
so it begins. this is going to be slow torture for those of us who went complete later.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: akakakaka on January 19, 2007, 10:15:41 AM
We need to find out what order they are calling.  Last name?  Completion date?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: prajna on January 19, 2007, 10:21:14 AM
We need to find out what order they are calling.  Last name?  Completion date?

from last year's LSN, seems like by completion date. i think they also said this on the complete notification they send you.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: akakakaka on January 19, 2007, 10:30:27 AM
We need to find out what order they are calling.  Last name?  Completion date?

from last year's LSN, seems like by completion date. i think they also said this on the complete notification they send you.

The last few days I have been paranoid about my app.  I submitted in September and never got a complete notice, so i e-mailed teh admissions office in november.  They replied saying that I was complete as of sometime in October.  For some reason I have an irrational fear that I am in fact NOT complete.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: lyquidmyrrrh on January 19, 2007, 10:31:43 AM
Anne Perry called about 15 mins ago.  I went complete on 10/27...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: akakakaka on January 19, 2007, 10:32:05 AM
Anne Perry called about 15 mins ago.  I went complete on 10/27...

Congrats... numbers?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: mL4300ic on January 19, 2007, 10:33:15 AM
Darn, makes me wish I had submitted my app sooner

I submitted mine over a month after you did, so rest assured there are those of us out there that will be hearing even later in the cycle than you will. ;)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: prajna on January 19, 2007, 10:43:26 AM
We need to find out what order they are calling.  Last name?  Completion date?

from last year's LSN, seems like by completion date. i think they also said this on the complete notification they send you.

The last few days I have been paranoid about my app.  I submitted in September and never got a complete notice, so i e-mailed teh admissions office in november.  They replied saying that I was complete as of sometime in October.  For some reason I have an irrational fear that I am in fact NOT complete.

i completely understand this fear. normally, i wouldn't worry about it, since chicago doesn't require anything special (like dean certificate) but i had such trouble going complete there. but they said you were complete so i would trust that. maybe. or if it's really bugging you, just call them again, they won't remember.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: dusya4 on January 19, 2007, 10:47:48 AM
Just got a call from Anne Perry - I'm in!!!!!!!!!!!! Congrads to everyone who got accepted today!!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: akakakaka on January 19, 2007, 10:51:32 AM
Just got a call from Anne Perry - I'm in!!!!!!!!!!!! Congrads to everyone who got accepted today!!

Congrats!  First letter of last name?  ;)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Sooner on January 19, 2007, 10:57:41 AM
Hello, 773 area code.

I'm IN

Complete 9/22, last name begins with M...

I doubt the order is alphabetical.

Whoopee!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: akakakaka on January 19, 2007, 11:04:22 AM
I'm IN!!!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: dusya4 on January 19, 2007, 11:06:13 AM
Just got a call from Anne Perry - I'm in!!!!!!!!!!!! Congrads to everyone who got accepted today!!

Congrats!  First letter of last name?  ;)

L

and I don't think they go in alphabetical order.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: well eggy on January 19, 2007, 11:06:40 AM
Congratulations to all!

Chicago seems, to me, the (sort of) hidden treasure of the t14.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: dusya4 on January 19, 2007, 11:07:26 AM
I'm IN!!!

Yipity! Congrats!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Sooner on January 19, 2007, 11:08:55 AM
Congrats, akakakaka. Did remember to ask her whether your file had in fact gone complete?    :)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: jd2bee on January 19, 2007, 11:12:31 AM
Congrats to all!  Way to be the first ones!!!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: topher on January 19, 2007, 11:13:40 AM
Congratulations everyone who's heard so far!  My boyfriend and I are both in, and our last names begin with B and H.  We went complete on 10/20.  Hope this helps!  This is exciting for us because it means that, barring something unusual from Yale or Harvard, or some crazy scholarship offer from another school (aka Penn, NYU, or Columbia), we'll be in Chicago next year!  Good luck to all those who are waiting!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: empirestate on January 19, 2007, 11:18:21 AM
Hey do you think chicago will send out emails?  I have no phone on which they can reach me or leave a message.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: prolesurge on January 19, 2007, 11:21:48 AM
I'm going to jump the gun and say I'm in-
I missed the phone call but I have a voicemail telling me to call back. Wooo!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: akakakaka on January 19, 2007, 11:22:15 AM
Congrats, akakakaka. Did remember to ask her whether your file had in fact gone complete?    :)

No, it slipped my mind.  Should I call back?  ;D
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Schruted on January 19, 2007, 11:41:19 AM
In at Chicago! Last name starts with L, complete 11/02.

Ooh, looks like the November completes are starting...

Congratulations to everyone who has heard good news already.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: empirestate on January 19, 2007, 11:45:27 AM
Hey do you think chicago will send out emails?  I have no phone on which they can reach me or leave a message.

Really? No phone?  What'd you put down on your application?

Well, I have a different cell phone because I'm not living in the US at the moment.  They could leave a message at my house but no one will be there for another week.  God this is killing me.  Would it be insane to call them at sme point?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: prajna on January 19, 2007, 11:50:45 AM
Hey do you think chicago will send out emails?  I have no phone on which they can reach me or leave a message.

Really? No phone?  What'd you put down on your application?

Well, I have a different cell phone because I'm not living in the US at the moment.  They could leave a message at my house but no one will be there for another week.  God this is killing me.  Would it be insane to call them at sme point?

you could just call them to say you want to update your contact info and give them your current number or tell them email is the way to go.

wow, they have already reached november? this seems to be going quicker than last year.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: prajna on January 19, 2007, 11:52:10 AM
oh and of course, congrats aka, and everyone else  ;)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: akakakaka on January 19, 2007, 11:53:18 AM
Does anybody know the name and password to access the admitted student website?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Schruted on January 19, 2007, 12:04:22 PM
I wasn't on LSD last year, so I don't know how this Chicago thing works. What time of day do they stop calling? (I'd like to know when I can stop hoping for a call today.)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: 245 on January 19, 2007, 12:08:42 PM
Wow, congratulations everyone who's gotten in at Chicago!  This is such awesome news!  It looks like they are really working the phones right now.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: akakakaka on January 19, 2007, 12:09:32 PM
Wow, congratulations everyone who's gotten in at Chicago!  This is such awesome news!  It looks like they are really working the phones right now.

By the way, you have decent numbers  ;)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: sillyberry on January 19, 2007, 12:10:37 PM
In!  Complete 10/20.  Last name at the way end of the alphabet.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: halluv on January 19, 2007, 12:13:07 PM
suddenly very upset with Chicago for losing my certification letter the first time, b/c of that I am not complete until december. :( But CONGRATULATIONS to everyone!!!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: pikey on January 19, 2007, 12:21:34 PM
Congrats Everyone!!!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 19, 2007, 12:43:12 PM
We need to find out what order they are calling.  Last name?  Completion date?

from last year's LSN, seems like by completion date. i think they also said this on the complete notification they send you.

Darn, makes me wish I had submitted my app sooner

Makes me feel better about not having heard. 

It's not time to panic, not yet.

AND CONGRATS EVERYONE!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 19, 2007, 12:51:43 PM
Does anybody know the name and password to access the admitted student website?

It isn't updated for the new cycle yet.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 19, 2007, 12:52:22 PM
If they do what they did last year, they will send follow-up e-mails at the end of the day.  So if you missed a call, don't have access to a phone, whatever, you will still hopefully hear.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Terrible Ivan on January 19, 2007, 12:53:55 PM

Oh, they are calling folks' work numbers to let them know? My work number has changed since forever ago when I applied to Chicago (okay, only a couple months ago). Worth submitting a revision to my app? Hopefully not...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 19, 2007, 01:25:29 PM
Wow, congratulations everyone who's gotten in at Chicago!  This is such awesome news!  It looks like they are really working the phones right now.

Mike--it looks like we went complete the same day at Chicago.  Let me know if/when you get a call today.  I have heard nothing.   :-\
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 19, 2007, 01:31:10 PM
MindTheGap, or anyone else who might know:

From what I have seen on LSN, it looks like Chicago defers/rejects those it passes over instead of making them wait in silence. Does this come via snail mail or email?

Don't know for sure, but I would guess snail mail.  I know for those that get deferred, they typically request you do something to show continued interest in the school (another letter of rec, an essay about why Chicago, etc.)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Senator on January 19, 2007, 01:37:19 PM
According to LSN, it looks like all of the acceptances today went complete before 11/2.

Hmm...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 19, 2007, 01:40:28 PM
Congrats everyone so far!

MTG: any idea when the next round of calls will be? A few weeks? Or will they consistently trickle out notices now?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 19, 2007, 01:43:29 PM
Congrats everyone so far!

MTG: any idea when the next round of calls will be? A few weeks? Or will they consistently trickle out notices now?

Past two cycles, they've done them in batches.  Looking at last year's LSN, I would expect the next round of admits to go out in two weeks.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 19, 2007, 01:47:09 PM
Wow, congratulations everyone who's gotten in at Chicago!  This is such awesome news!  It looks like they are really working the phones right now.

Mike--it looks like we went complete the same day at Chicago.  Let me know if/when you get a call today.  I have heard nothing.   :-\

If! Pshaw!

And I'm rooting for you, Hank! Don't fret. I know it will work out.

Well, I meant "if" as in "if" today.  He could get accepted in two or three weeks, which would be annoying. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 19, 2007, 01:52:29 PM
I thought I already tagged this thread, but it isn't showing up in my unreads, so, uh, tag.

Congratulations to everyone who has been accepted so far!

Shanny!  You went complete the same day Mike and I did!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 19, 2007, 01:56:28 PM
Yeah - maybe we will all get our acceptances together! Here's hoping we don't have to wait two weeks, though.

 :(
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: 245 on January 19, 2007, 01:59:11 PM
Yeah - maybe we will all get our acceptances together! Here's hoping we don't have to wait two weeks, though.

Agreed!  It looks like the acceptances have stopped for today, but two weeks is such a long time.   :-\
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: chitownluva on January 19, 2007, 01:59:50 PM
Wow, I'm late to this party but congrats everyone!!  Chicago is awesome and I can't wait to get a little love from the home town here.   Chicago is smart putting their ASW weekend back to April when the weather's nicer.  :D  I went complete 11/28 so I've probably still got some time to twiddle my thumbs.  They've still got an hour before business hours are over!!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 19, 2007, 02:00:57 PM
Yeah - maybe we will all get our acceptances together! Here's hoping we don't have to wait two weeks, though.

 :(

Last year, people with our complete date were accepted on Feb 2nd.

 :( :-\

I guess I can quit getting nervous every time the phone rings.  But maybe this way they will get my updated transcript and rec letters and think more highly of me?  I dunno.  

Congrats to everyone who has been accepted though!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: mL4300ic on January 19, 2007, 02:55:36 PM
People who went complete when I did were notified around the end of February last year. I guess I shouldn't worry about Chicago for another month.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 19, 2007, 03:29:59 PM
People who went complete when I did were notified around the end of February last year. I guess I shouldn't worry about Chicago for another month.

Yeah, I guess I should just forget about it for a while.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 19, 2007, 04:04:40 PM
People who went complete when I did were notified around the end of February last year. I guess I shouldn't worry about Chicago for another month.

Yeah, I guess I should just forget about it for a while.

You are going to get in, it is not fun waiting though.

Well, I hope so, but I don't think it's a sure thing.  At least I have NYU.   :D
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: FunkyzeitmitBruno on January 19, 2007, 04:10:09 PM
Count me into the accept pile. Went complete in October and got the phone call earlier today. Didn't think their admissions season would start on a Friday.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: empirestate on January 19, 2007, 04:47:04 PM
Did anyone get follow up emails or just emails from chicago yet?  I'm the one without a phone.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: FunkyzeitmitBruno on January 19, 2007, 04:51:23 PM
Did anyone get follow up emails or just emails from chicago yet?  I'm the one without a phone.

No, they said in the phone call, they'd be sending out emails though.

Also, I read your previous posts about your phone situation. I'm also out of the US using a cell phone only, so I don't think that should be a problem (assuming in your app or at some point during the application procedure, you listed ur overseas phone number).
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: empirestate on January 19, 2007, 05:31:39 PM
Did anyone get follow up emails or just emails from chicago yet?  I'm the one without a phone.

No, they said in the phone call, they'd be sending out emails though.

Also, I read your previous posts about your phone situation. I'm also out of the US using a cell phone only, so I don't think that should be a problem (assuming in your app or at some point during the application procedure, you listed ur overseas phone number).

nope never gave it to them.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: ciao-a-bunga on January 20, 2007, 04:08:45 PM
How was this person waitlisted...

http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/display.php?user=qwertyasdf

yield protection?  applied too late?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 20, 2007, 04:13:03 PM
How was this person waitlisted...

http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/display.php?user=qwertyasdf

yield protection?  applied too late?

I'm sure yield protection.  Chicago did that with a few people.  I remember actually seeing that you had just as good a chance of being accepted with a 172-174 and a 3.7-3.85 than a 176-180 and a 3.85-4.0. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Denny Crane on January 20, 2007, 06:55:14 PM
I'm really late to this game, but congrats to everyone who has been accepted!

Have there been mentions of scholarships or anything?  I know Chicago itself doesn't really disburse too much money, but from what I've read elsewhere have referred some people in the past to third-party scholarships that have been quite generous. 

Best of luck to everyone (including myself) who is still waiting on word.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: ciao-a-bunga on January 20, 2007, 10:14:17 PM
I'm really late to this game, but congrats to everyone who has been accepted!

Have there been mentions of scholarships or anything?  I know Chicago itself doesn't really disburse too much money, but from what I've read elsewhere have referred some people in the past to third-party scholarships that have been quite generous. 

Best of luck to everyone (including myself) who is still waiting on word.

I might be gay for moleman.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Denny Crane on January 21, 2007, 06:46:30 AM
I'm really late to this game, but congrats to everyone who has been accepted!

Have there been mentions of scholarships or anything?  I know Chicago itself doesn't really disburse too much money, but from what I've read elsewhere have referred some people in the past to third-party scholarships that have been quite generous. 

Best of luck to everyone (including myself) who is still waiting on word.

I might be gay for moleman.

Oh don't get me all excited like that.  I know no one is gay for moleman.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: smallandmighty on January 22, 2007, 03:08:16 PM
Anyone heard from Chicago today?  Just curious...well, going a little batty AND curious.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: 617 on January 22, 2007, 03:12:56 PM
Rejections and deferrals are coming in the mail today, dated 1/19 - seems like this was a major decision day for them.  I received a deferral.

I would be concerned if you had an early completion date and did not hear from them last Friday, since (according to LSN) Chicago moves pretty strictly by completion date.  Later completion date means you need not worry, as they will probably have another mass-calling admit day soon enough.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: smallandmighty on January 22, 2007, 03:20:23 PM
Cool-thanks!  Any sense of what the latest completion dates they have been notifying have been?  I was complete January 9th. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 22, 2007, 03:21:29 PM
Cool-thanks!  Any sense of what the latest completion dates they have been notifying have been?  I was complete January 9th. 

According to LSN it is November 2nd I believe we have decided. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 22, 2007, 03:23:35 PM
Cool-thanks!  Any sense of what the latest completion dates they have been notifying have been?  I was complete January 9th. 

According to LSN it is November 2nd I believe we have decided. 

Yep, Nov. 2, which really makes it galling for those who went complete on Nov. 3 (like me)

Or November 10th.   :-\
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: smallandmighty on January 22, 2007, 03:53:29 PM
Wow! Okay, guess I have awhile to wait.  Mostly I'm waiting to hear from University of Washington, Chicago was my "well, I should try to get into someplace really tough, let's see what happens choice." 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: ciao-a-bunga on January 22, 2007, 04:13:11 PM
I found out recently that Chicago apparently has a (low) enforced-mean grading system... what do we make of this, if it's true.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: ciao-a-bunga on January 22, 2007, 04:16:47 PM
I found out recently that Chicago apparently has a (low) enforced-mean grading system... what do we make of this, if it's true.

We think this is scary.

At least I do.

Yes, we do.

Where's the UChicago troll when we need him... if I am allowed to call him that.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: lyquidmyrrrh on January 22, 2007, 04:27:35 PM
I dont see that it makes that much a difference -- All that really matters is your grades relative to other students in your class, so it doesn't really matter if the mean is a B+ or a B - or whatever, as long as you compare favorably to other students.  It's especially unimportant since virtually everyone from Chicago's class will get a top firm job.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: lyquidmyrrrh on January 22, 2007, 04:42:01 PM
right - people have guessed that the 186-scale might be a reason Chicago does so well in clerkship placement.  Judges know exactly who is at the very top of the class.

According to MTG, UofC provides OCI info, and the lowest GPA person (with a 172 avg, I think) still did fairly well with callbacks/offers.  We should give MTG a few hours, he'll probably chime in.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 22, 2007, 04:59:07 PM
I found out recently that Chicago apparently has a (low) enforced-mean grading system... what do we make of this, if it's true.

We think this is scary.

At least I do.

Yes, we do.

Where's the UChicago troll when we need him... if I am allowed to call him that.

I guess I can't complain a nickname is demeaning when it is accurate...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 22, 2007, 05:08:50 PM
I found out recently that Chicago apparently has a (low) enforced-mean grading system... what do we make of this, if it's true.

First, if you are referring to this post over on XO:

Quote
Date: January 22nd, 2007 4:46 PM
Author: Bill O'Reilly's Taint

smart people love "rigor" and Chicago is full of it; it must be, what with its hair-splitting number grades, punishingly low enforced mean, and oppressive course load.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568069&forum_id=2#7468343)

That is just a quote from Renada Deshada's infamous Chicago essay, not an actual description of the school.

As to specifics about the grading system, I'm going to make a post over on my Taking ?s thread, since I think more people will see it that way.  I'll link here once it is up.

EDIT: Here's your link - http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,73683.msg1939050.html#msg1939050
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 22, 2007, 07:44:46 PM


That is just a quote from Renada Deshada's infamous Chicago essay, not an actual description of the school.



Hmm, what is the assumption?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 22, 2007, 08:10:34 PM


That is just a quote from Renada Deshada's infamous Chicago essay, not an actual description of the school.



Hmm, what is the assumption?

Have you never read the Renada essay?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 22, 2007, 08:19:46 PM


That is just a quote from Renada Deshada's infamous Chicago essay, not an actual description of the school.



Hmm, what is the assumption?

Have you never read the Renada essay?

Yes...are you saying it's not true?!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 22, 2007, 08:28:28 PM


That is just a quote from Renada Deshada's infamous Chicago essay, not an actual description of the school.



Hmm, what is the assumption?

Have you never read the Renada essay?

Yes...are you saying it's not true?!

It was just a funny story Renada made up.  Now that he's out in the real world, here are some of his actual views as an attorney:

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Date: June 16th, 2005 4:47 AM
Author: Renada Deshada

i tend to agree with the premises of the OP: Ch>S>Co; and so do people i know who hire about 200 summer associates among them. they are seemingly uninfluenced by us news, and are surprisingly unfamiliar with the "ciolli national placement study."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=186820&forum_id=2#3028284)

Quote
Date: June 16th, 2005 10:54 AM
Author: Renada Deshada

not too long ago, even among those who saw HYS as unreachably separate, there was virtual consensus that the next slot belonged to chicago, only, and by a far more vast margin than any gap between chicago and those above it (and possibly only above it because of the arbitrary convention wherby elite outliers are designated as a "big three.") has there been any actual decline at chicago? and/or some massive, relative ascendency by, e.g., columbia? i know one hiring partner who regards chicago exactly as yale is regarded here; and it's not as if he's saying duke. a lot of people agree with him. have things actually changed? or is this pure gamesmanship by the rankings-obsessed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=186820&forum_id=2#3028989)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 22, 2007, 08:32:05 PM
Oo, that's some good trolling MTG!  Congrats!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 22, 2007, 08:38:17 PM
Oo, that's some good trolling MTG!  Congrats!

Courtesy of a Stanford Law grad!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 22, 2007, 08:54:39 PM
BTW, if you visit that thread I linked to, you can read some classic Sexpert posts.  He is not only the original Chicago troll, but also by far the best ever.  He gave me a lot of help back when I was applying and inspires me every day.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: timesaddict on January 23, 2007, 09:28:29 AM
I'm abroad for the year, so all my mail is sent to my permanent address.  My Dad just called to let me know I got in into Chicago yesterday.  Snail mail, with a personal note.  It's my first one.  I was deferred from Cornell, Georgetown and Penn.  This definitely takes the sting out of those deferrals.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Denny Crane on January 23, 2007, 09:37:21 AM
I'm abroad for the year, so all my mail is sent to my permanent address.  My Dad just called to let me know I got in into Chicago yesterday.  Snail mail, with a personal note.  It's my first one.  I was deferred from Cornell, Georgetown and Penn.  This definitely takes the sting out of those deferrals.

Congrats.  Goes to show law school applications are crap shoots. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: timesaddict on January 23, 2007, 10:14:29 AM
Congrats.  Goes to show law school applications are crap shoots. 

Thanks.  It really is a crap shoot.  After those deferrals I started applying to a bunch of fall-backs.  I'm beside myself.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 23, 2007, 10:34:15 AM
I'm abroad for the year, so all my mail is sent to my permanent address.  My Dad just called to let me know I got in into Chicago yesterday.  Snail mail, with a personal note.  It's my first one.  I was deferred from Cornell, Georgetown and Penn.  This definitely takes the sting out of those deferrals.

Do you mind sharing your numbers?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 23, 2007, 10:38:26 AM
BTW, if you visit that thread I linked to, you can read some classic Sexpert posts.  He is not only the original Chicago troll, but also by far the best ever.  He gave me a lot of help back when I was applying and inspires me every day.

And he goes by Sexpert?  :D We should probably listen to him.

Another reason hank will choose chicago....

He sounds like a discerning gentleman. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: timesaddict on January 23, 2007, 11:31:54 AM
165 and a shade under a 3.7...

...what's your favorite Paul Simon song?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: m1 on January 23, 2007, 11:33:55 AM
wow- congrats!

i just got dinged today (by mail) with a 3.9 and a 166, although I was expecting it
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: timesaddict on January 23, 2007, 11:36:33 AM
yeah, i can't honestly say i was expecting it.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: m1 on January 23, 2007, 11:57:52 AM
I went complete October 30th
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 23, 2007, 12:10:49 PM
165 and a shade under a 3.7...

...what's your favorite Paul Simon song?

Wow congratulations!

Probably "Graceland," "Obvious Child," or "Still Crazy..."
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: timesaddict on January 23, 2007, 12:16:48 PM
Wow congratulations!

Probably "Graceland," "Obvious Child," or "Still Crazy..."


thanks, i'm beside myself.  

"Obvious Child" is great.  I'd have to go with "Peace Like a River," "My Little Town," and "Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes."
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Trekkie Monster on January 26, 2007, 09:38:01 AM
Chicago,

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE start your next round of acceptances.  I love you and my love is real love.  Not like that of a prestige whore.   ;D  Please love me back.

Love

Trekkie Monster
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: ciao-a-bunga on January 26, 2007, 09:57:21 AM
Chicago,

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE start your next round of acceptances.  I love you and my love is real love.  Not like that of a prestige whore.   ;D  Please love me back.

Love

Trekkie Monster

Good musical... though I saw Spamalot around the same time and thought it was the best show I'd ever seen.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 26, 2007, 11:19:16 AM
Isn't Chicago concerned about all the monkey tars and CLS trolling of the last two days?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 26, 2007, 11:23:47 AM
Isn't Chicago concerned about all the monkey tars and CLS trolling of the last two days?

I stopped by the admissions office and asked this very question today.

Short answer: They are.  They really really are.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 26, 2007, 11:24:55 AM
Isn't Chicago concerned about all the monkey tars and CLS trolling of the last two days?

I stopped by the admissions office and asked this very question today.

Short answer: They are.  They really really are.

Heh, well hopefully that is good news for some of us!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 26, 2007, 11:32:13 AM
Isn't Chicago concerned about all the monkey tars and CLS trolling of the last two days?

I stopped by the admissions office and asked this very question today.

Short answer: They are.  They really really are.

Heh, well hopefully that is good news for some of us!

I think the next round of admits will go out next Friday, as predicted by last year's schedule.  There's no inside information behind that guess though.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on January 26, 2007, 11:36:07 AM
Isn't Chicago concerned about all the monkey tars and CLS trolling of the last two days?

I stopped by the admissions office and asked this very question today.

Short answer: They are.  They really really are.

RLY?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: formerapplicant on January 26, 2007, 05:14:24 PM
Just got a flurry of e-mails from Chicago... information on my deferred admission (!), an e-mail saying that the previous one was in error, and one congratulating me which said that I've probably been contacted by admissions officers and invited to a Facebook group (no and no).

I wonder if I've been accepted or Boalted.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: ciao-a-bunga on January 26, 2007, 05:28:24 PM
Just got a flurry of e-mails from Chicago... information on my deferred admission (!), an e-mail saying that the previous one was in error, and one congratulating me which said that I've probably been contacted by admissions officers and invited to a Facebook group (no and no).

I wonder if I've been accepted or Boalted.

...weird.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on January 26, 2007, 09:11:13 PM
Isn't Chicago concerned about all the monkey tars and CLS trolling of the last two days?

I stopped by the admissions office and asked this very question today.

Short answer: They are.  They really really are.

If you stop by there again, let them know that we're still really annoyed about the whole stealing Dorian from CLS thing.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 27, 2007, 02:19:23 AM
Isn't Chicago concerned about all the monkey tars and CLS trolling of the last two days?

I stopped by the admissions office and asked this very question today.

Short answer: They are.  They really really are.

If you stop by there again, let them know that we're still really annoyed about the whole stealing Dorian from CLS thing.  Thanks.

I've met Dorian.  He loves it here.  So you're going to have to DEAL!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: LSAT Granddad on January 27, 2007, 09:03:27 AM
Are we there yet, Dear Chicago!! :-[ U know I love u, love me back if you can.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on January 27, 2007, 09:14:40 AM
Don't know if you guys read this (or have heard about it before), but UChicago has an admissions blog: http://uchicagolaw.typepad.com/adayinthelife/ (http://uchicagolaw.typepad.com/adayinthelife/).

There are a couple entries discussing how certain members of the admissions committee review files. The rest of it is about events at the law school, the impressions of current 1Ls about their experiences, and a lot of other stuff. It's fun to pass the time with while I'm sitting on the edge of my seat, waiting for my phone to ring.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 28, 2007, 10:01:34 PM
I'm going to bump this for the good folks who are still counting down.

Oh, Chicago, my infatuation grows by the hour...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 28, 2007, 10:12:37 PM
I'm going to bump this for the good folks who are still counting down.

Oh, Chicago, my infatuation grows by the hour...

>:(

Oh dear, I didn't mean for you to see that.   :-[               
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: mufich on January 28, 2007, 10:12:55 PM
Went complete 11/9, so crossing my fingers for this week...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 28, 2007, 10:15:15 PM
Went complete 11/9, so crossing my fingers for this week...

I think I've got a little while to go--not complete until December 6.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 28, 2007, 10:18:44 PM
Went complete 11/9, so crossing my fingers for this week...

Yep, me too.  You think it will be this week?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 28, 2007, 10:19:51 PM
Went complete 11/9, so crossing my fingers for this week...

Yep, me too.  You think it will be this week?

I hope you get in this week, Hank!

And you, too, mufich!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 28, 2007, 10:20:11 PM
Went complete 11/9, so crossing my fingers for this week...

GL dood.  If you don't get it, it will be purely for YP reasons.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on January 28, 2007, 10:21:28 PM
January 5 here...I'm probably waiting for a few more months (hope not though). Good luck to everyone who is expecting their decision this week! I'm crossing my fingers for you!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: mufich on January 28, 2007, 10:22:36 PM
Thanks guys... I'm a big scholarship junkie, so if UC offers $$ it'll get some serious attention
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 28, 2007, 10:23:07 PM
Went complete 11/9, so crossing my fingers for this week...

Yep, me too.  You think it will be this week?

Based on history, should be this Friday.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 28, 2007, 10:24:06 PM
Thanks guys... I'm a big scholarship junkie, so if UC offers $$ it'll get some serious attention

Good luck with that!  I think it's cool when people choose Harvard, but it's more interesting to watch someone's cycle when she's willing to lured away by scholarships.  :)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 28, 2007, 10:24:18 PM
Thanks guys... I'm a big scholarship junkie, so if UC offers $$ it'll get some serious attention

Yay mufich!

Do they tell scholarship offers in late March, MTG?  For some reason that's what I remember hearing.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: mufich on January 28, 2007, 10:32:32 PM
Thanks guys... I'm a big scholarship junkie, so if UC offers $$ it'll get some serious attention

Good luck with that!  I think it's cool when people choose Harvard, but it's more interesting to watch someone's cycle when she's willing to lured away by scholarships.  :)

Interesting to watch... really frustratingly confusing/unsettling to have to decide!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 28, 2007, 10:34:08 PM
Thanks guys... I'm a big scholarship junkie, so if UC offers $$ it'll get some serious attention

Good luck with that!  I think it's cool when people choose Harvard, but it's more interesting to watch someone's cycle when she's willing to lured away by scholarships.  :)

Interesting to watch... really frustratingly confusing/unsettling to have to decide!

Hehe, I bet.  Well, it could be the same for me, but with different schools...  I really want Chicago, but if Virginia offers me enough, I might have to take it.  It is very difficult.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on January 28, 2007, 10:34:18 PM
Thanks guys... I'm a big scholarship junkie, so if UC offers $$ it'll get some serious attention

Good luck with that!  I think it's cool when people choose Harvard, but it's more interesting to watch someone's cycle when she's willing to lured away by scholarships.  :)

Interesting to watch... really frustratingly confusing/unsettling to have to decide!

It's a pretty awesome decision you get to make though, even if it is ridiculously difficult
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 28, 2007, 10:34:43 PM
Thanks guys... I'm a big scholarship junkie, so if UC offers $$ it'll get some serious attention

Yay mufich!

Do they tell scholarship offers in late March, MTG?  For some reason that's what I remember hearing.

I think that's when I got mine.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 28, 2007, 10:35:28 PM
Thanks guys... I'm a big scholarship junkie, so if UC offers $$ it'll get some serious attention

Good luck with that!  I think it's cool when people choose Harvard, but it's more interesting to watch someone's cycle when she's willing to lured away by scholarships.  :)

Interesting to watch... really frustratingly confusing/unsettling to have to decide!

Hehe, I bet.  Well, it could be the same for me, but with different schools...  I really want Chicago, but if Virginia offers me enough, I might have to take it.  It is very difficult.

The trivia competition will win you over.  No amount of money from UVa will beat the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to go up against Epstein.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 28, 2007, 10:37:30 PM
Thanks guys... I'm a big scholarship junkie, so if UC offers $$ it'll get some serious attention

Just as a warning, Chicago doesn't offer as much money as comparable schools (I see you have $120k from Northwestern; Chicago won't do that).  I think last year the max they offered in pure merit-based was like $64k.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 28, 2007, 10:39:17 PM
Thanks guys... I'm a big scholarship junkie, so if UC offers $$ it'll get some serious attention

Good luck with that!  I think it's cool when people choose Harvard, but it's more interesting to watch someone's cycle when she's willing to lured away by scholarships.  :)

Interesting to watch... really frustratingly confusing/unsettling to have to decide!

Hehe, I bet.  Well, it could be the same for me, but with different schools...  I really want Chicago, but if Virginia offers me enough, I might have to take it.  It is very difficult.

The trivia competition will win you over.  No amount of money from UVa will beat the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to go up against Epstein.

This, in combination with my tendency to get myself into difficult situations just for the rush of working my way out, may very well cause Chicago to prevail (if I get in).  It'll be last minute, though.

Chicago does get bonus points for making sure ASW doesn't conflict with my debate schedule.  That was nice of them...  ;)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: mufich on January 28, 2007, 10:39:45 PM
I've heard that too. Thats ok, I am just anxious to have all the finaid info IN so I can finally make a decision with all available info

(And definitely not a hard decision to have. Definitely not complaining!)

Edit: realized I actually went complete 11/22... so I have a bit more waiting to do.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 28, 2007, 10:43:20 PM
I'm going to bump this for the good folks who are still counting down.

Oh, Chicago, my infatuation grows by the hour...

>:(

Oh dear, I didn't mean for you to see that.   :-[               

As Stan has already told goalie, "We See Everything  >:("

How frightening!  I'm going to need some scotch to process this.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 28, 2007, 10:48:04 PM
Thanks guys... I'm a big scholarship junkie, so if UC offers $$ it'll get some serious attention

Good luck with that!  I think it's cool when people choose Harvard, but it's more interesting to watch someone's cycle when she's willing to lured away by scholarships.  :)

Interesting to watch... really frustratingly confusing/unsettling to have to decide!

Hehe, I bet.  Well, it could be the same for me, but with different schools...  I really want Chicago, but if Virginia offers me enough, I might have to take it.  It is very difficult.

The trivia competition will win you over.  No amount of money from UVa will beat the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to go up against Epstein.

Trivia? *perks up* UC Quiz Bowl is kinda ridiculous.

Too bad you did ED at Columbia!  No Chicago trivia for you!  Haha!  :D 

(And Brito immediately stops being childish.)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 28, 2007, 10:54:47 PM
I'm going to bump this for the good folks who are still counting down.

Oh, Chicago, my infatuation grows by the hour...

>:(

Oh dear, I didn't mean for you to see that.   :-[               

As Stan has already told goalie, "We See Everything  >:("

How frightening!  I'm going to need some scotch to process this.

Not a bad idea.  I think I'll have some RIGHT NOW.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 28, 2007, 10:56:40 PM

How frightening!  I'm going to need some scotch to process this.

Not a bad idea.  I think I'll have some RIGHT NOW.

But you're not the one under surveillance! 

I think you're just looking for excuses, MTG.   :-\   :D
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 28, 2007, 10:57:40 PM

How frightening!  I'm going to need some scotch to process this.

Not a bad idea.  I think I'll have some RIGHT NOW.

But you're not the one under surveillance! 

I think you're just looking for excuses, MTG.   :-\   :D

Pretty much.

Although, I generally try to ensure I'm drinking a glass of scotch whenever I get to a Scalia opinion.  I'm about to start my ConLaw reading, so it's probably a good idea to pour myself some anyway.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 28, 2007, 11:00:30 PM

How frightening!  I'm going to need some scotch to process this.

Not a bad idea.  I think I'll have some RIGHT NOW.

But you're not the one under surveillance! 

I think you're just looking for excuses, MTG.   :-\   :D

Pretty much.

Although, I generally try to ensure I'm drinking a glass of scotch whenever I get to a Scalia opinion.  I'm about to start my ConLaw reading, so it's probably a good idea to pour myself some anyway.

I like to read Faulkner's novels the same way he wrote them, with a bottle of whiskey at hand.

/Okay, not really.

But why Scalia + scotch?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on January 28, 2007, 11:02:52 PM

How frightening!  I'm going to need some scotch to process this.

Not a bad idea.  I think I'll have some RIGHT NOW.

But you're not the one under surveillance! 

I think you're just looking for excuses, MTG.   :-\   :D

Pretty much.

Although, I generally try to ensure I'm drinking a glass of scotch whenever I get to a Scalia opinion.  I'm about to start my ConLaw reading, so it's probably a good idea to pour myself some anyway.

I like to read Faulkner's novels the same way he wrote them, with a bottle of whiskey at hand.

/Okay, not really.

But why Scalia + scotch?

I don't know MTG's response, but mine would be "Why not?"
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 28, 2007, 11:03:20 PM

I don't know MTG's response, but mine would be "Why not?"

TCR, I believe.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 28, 2007, 11:08:13 PM

How frightening!  I'm going to need some scotch to process this.

Not a bad idea.  I think I'll have some RIGHT NOW.

But you're not the one under surveillance! 

I think you're just looking for excuses, MTG.   :-\   :D

Pretty much.

Although, I generally try to ensure I'm drinking a glass of scotch whenever I get to a Scalia opinion.  I'm about to start my ConLaw reading, so it's probably a good idea to pour myself some anyway.

I like to read Faulkner's novels the same way he wrote them, with a bottle of whiskey at hand.

/Okay, not really.

But why Scalia + scotch?

If I did that, I would have gone to bed drunk every night this year.

As for the Scalia thing, it started in undergrad. I used to like to go out by the pool to smoke a cigar and drink scotch while reading Scalia opinions.  The cigar smoking is unfortunately cut short by my current living situation, but I can still get the scotch in.

EDIT: Also, I read a LOT more Scalia opinions now, so smoking a cigar every time I got to one might be hazardous.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 28, 2007, 11:11:31 PM

If I did that, I would have gone to bed drunk every night this year.

As for the Scalia thing, it started in undergrad. I used to like to go out by the pool to smoke a cigar and drink scotch while reading Scalia opinions.  The cigar smoking is unfortunately cut short by my current living condition, but I can still get the scotch in.

I am sorry to hear that.  Are there any good smoking spots around?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 28, 2007, 11:13:55 PM

If I did that, I would have gone to bed drunk every night this year.

As for the Scalia thing, it started in undergrad. I used to like to go out by the pool to smoke a cigar and drink scotch while reading Scalia opinions.  The cigar smoking is unfortunately cut short by my current living condition, but I can still get the scotch in.

I am sorry to hear that.  Are there any good smoking spots around?

Chicago is theoretically going to go smoke free next year or the year after, but for now I'm okay.  My favorite one, a champagne bar with live jazz, moved locations and went smoke-free.  But I still know of a couple good jazz clubs and two great pubs.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on January 28, 2007, 11:15:41 PM

If I did that, I would have gone to bed drunk every night this year.

As for the Scalia thing, it started in undergrad. I used to like to go out by the pool to smoke a cigar and drink scotch while reading Scalia opinions.  The cigar smoking is unfortunately cut short by my current living condition, but I can still get the scotch in.

I am sorry to hear that.  Are there any good smoking spots around?

Chicago is theoretically going to go smoke free next year or the year after, but for now I'm okay.  My favorite one, a champagne bar with live jazz, moved locations and went smoke-free.  But I still know of a couple good jazz clubs and two great pubs.

oooh...sounds like fun...do tell (sorry it's smoke free for you, but the one thing I'm going to miss about LA is all the smoke free establishments...I love not coming home smelling like an ashtray)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 28, 2007, 11:16:22 PM

If I did that, I would have gone to bed drunk every night this year.

As for the Scalia thing, it started in undergrad. I used to like to go out by the pool to smoke a cigar and drink scotch while reading Scalia opinions.  The cigar smoking is unfortunately cut short by my current living condition, but I can still get the scotch in.

I am sorry to hear that.  Are there any good smoking spots around?

Chicago is theoretically going to go smoke free next year or the year after, but for now I'm okay.  My favorite one, a champagne bar with live jazz, moved locations and went smoke-free.  But I still know of a couple good jazz clubs and two great pubs.

Oh, good.  That should suffice for my purposes.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 28, 2007, 11:18:03 PM

If I did that, I would have gone to bed drunk every night this year.

As for the Scalia thing, it started in undergrad. I used to like to go out by the pool to smoke a cigar and drink scotch while reading Scalia opinions.  The cigar smoking is unfortunately cut short by my current living condition, but I can still get the scotch in.

I am sorry to hear that.  Are there any good smoking spots around?

Chicago is theoretically going to go smoke free next year or the year after, but for now I'm okay.  My favorite one, a champagne bar with live jazz, moved locations and went smoke-free.  But I still know of a couple good jazz clubs and two great pubs.

oooh...sounds like fun...do tell (sorry it's smoke free for you, but the one thing I'm going to miss about LA is all the smoke free establishments...I love not coming home smelling like an ashtray)

Their old location was awesome.  I haven't been to the new one yet:

http://www.popsforchampagne.com/

I actually don't mind smoke free. I am just really irked by the places that are cigarettes only.  If you're going to allow smoking, at least allow the stuff that smells good!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 28, 2007, 11:23:49 PM

If I did that, I would have gone to bed drunk every night this year.

As for the Scalia thing, it started in undergrad. I used to like to go out by the pool to smoke a cigar and drink scotch while reading Scalia opinions.  The cigar smoking is unfortunately cut short by my current living condition, but I can still get the scotch in.

I am sorry to hear that.  Are there any good smoking spots around?

Chicago is theoretically going to go smoke free next year or the year after, but for now I'm okay.  My favorite one, a champagne bar with live jazz, moved locations and went smoke-free.  But I still know of a couple good jazz clubs and two great pubs.

Oh, good.  That should suffice for my purposes.

I'm not going to make any promises, but it is not inconceivable that a trip might be made during ASW.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 28, 2007, 11:30:39 PM

I'm not going to make any promises, but it is not inconceivable that a trip might be made during ASW.

Very good.  :D
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on January 28, 2007, 11:31:23 PM

If I did that, I would have gone to bed drunk every night this year.

As for the Scalia thing, it started in undergrad. I used to like to go out by the pool to smoke a cigar and drink scotch while reading Scalia opinions.  The cigar smoking is unfortunately cut short by my current living condition, but I can still get the scotch in.

I am sorry to hear that.  Are there any good smoking spots around?

Chicago is theoretically going to go smoke free next year or the year after, but for now I'm okay.  My favorite one, a champagne bar with live jazz, moved locations and went smoke-free.  But I still know of a couple good jazz clubs and two great pubs.

oooh...sounds like fun...do tell (sorry it's smoke free for you, but the one thing I'm going to miss about LA is all the smoke free establishments...I love not coming home smelling like an ashtray)

Their old location was awesome.  I haven't been to the new one yet:

http://www.popsforchampagne.com/

I actually don't mind smoke free. I am just really irked by the places that are cigarettes only.  If you're going to allow smoking, at least allow the stuff that smells good!

Agreed
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on January 29, 2007, 04:26:47 AM
I'm going to bump this for the good folks who are still counting down.

Oh, Chicago, my infatuation grows by the hour...

>:(

Oh dear, I didn't mean for you to see that.   :-[               

As Stan has already told goalie, "We See Everything  >:("

How frightening!  I'm going to need some scotch to process this.

Nothing frightening about the truth, so long as you get used to it. 

You're quite the alkie.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: LSAT Granddad on January 29, 2007, 05:20:29 AM
Still no word from Chicago?!  ???
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 29, 2007, 09:32:34 AM

You're quite the alkie.

No, no, not at all!  I'm more of a one-drink kind of girl.  I just like to talk about it--it's a bit juvenile.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on January 29, 2007, 09:34:23 AM
No, no, not at all!  I'm more of a one-drink kind of girl.  I just like to talk about it--it's a bit juvenile.

I've also noticed that you keep insisting that you're childish (or juvenile or whathaveyou).  Any particular reason?

Also, I think that should be a semicolon, but I'm a math guy so what do I know?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Trekkie Monster on January 29, 2007, 10:53:46 AM
I have a question for MTG.  I have been wondering, and the Meltzer Memorial service is on Friday.  Could that possibly change whether or not decisions go out that day?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 29, 2007, 02:10:19 PM
No, no, not at all!  I'm more of a one-drink kind of girl.  I just like to talk about it--it's a bit juvenile.

I've also noticed that you keep insisting that you're childish (or juvenile or whathaveyou).  Any particular reason?

Also, I think that should be a semicolon, but I'm a math guy so what do I know?

I like dashes.  I feel some need to apologize continually.  I don't know why.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on January 29, 2007, 02:15:37 PM
No, no, not at all!  I'm more of a one-drink kind of girl.  I just like to talk about it--it's a bit juvenile.

I've also noticed that you keep insisting that you're childish (or juvenile or whathaveyou).  Any particular reason?

Also, I think that should be a semicolon, but I'm a math guy so what do I know?

I like dashes.  I feel some need to apologize continually.  I don't know why.

Perhaps because you're posting in the Chicago thread.

If you abandon us, we have you pegged as abandoning us for UVA more than Chicago.  But we have limited data (and I'm not anti-Chicago trolling or anything, I swear).
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 29, 2007, 02:24:12 PM
No, no, not at all!  I'm more of a one-drink kind of girl.  I just like to talk about it--it's a bit juvenile.

I've also noticed that you keep insisting that you're childish (or juvenile or whathaveyou).  Any particular reason?

Also, I think that should be a semicolon, but I'm a math guy so what do I know?

I like dashes.  I feel some need to apologize continually.  I don't know why.

Perhaps because you're posting in the Chicago thread.

If you abandon us, we have you pegged as abandoning us for UVA more than Chicago.  But we have limited data (and I'm not anti-Chicago trolling or anything, I swear).

It goes beyond that.  I started this thread!  Hahaha!

I have limited data, too, so I could not confirm or deny the second statement.

More on the issue of childishness:  I'm short and easily excited, and I think this feeds into an "I'm-so-frivolous" complex.  It can't be entirely true, since I have more than one friend actively attempting to get me to lighten up.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on January 29, 2007, 02:40:01 PM
It goes beyond that.  I started this thread!  Hahaha!

I have limited data, too, so I could not confirm or deny the second statement.

More on the issue of childishness:  I'm short and easily excited, and I think this feeds into an "I'm-so-frivolous" complex.  It can't be entirely true, since I have more than one friend actively attempting to get me to lighten up.

Oh yeah, how did I miss that?

And that's strange because I always figured you for kind of mature-beyond-your-years for some reason.

Actually, not some reason.  It's because of Eowyn.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on January 29, 2007, 03:12:01 PM
I have a question for MTG.  I have been wondering, and the Meltzer Memorial service is on Friday.  Could that possibly change whether or not decisions go out that day?

I can't pretend to have any sort of inside knowledge here, but my guess would be that it won't have any effect.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 29, 2007, 03:23:40 PM
It goes beyond that.  I started this thread!  Hahaha!

I have limited data, too, so I could not confirm or deny the second statement.

More on the issue of childishness:  I'm short and easily excited, and I think this feeds into an "I'm-so-frivolous" complex.  It can't be entirely true, since I have more than one friend actively attempting to get me to lighten up.

Oh yeah, how did I miss that?

And that's strange because I always figured you for kind of mature-beyond-your-years for some reason.

Actually, not some reason.  It's because of Eowyn.

Oh, good.  Continue thinking that.   :D
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 29, 2007, 09:29:09 PM
I'm just going to casually bump this thread and hope no one notices.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on January 29, 2007, 09:30:13 PM
I'm just going to casually bump this thread and hope no one notices.

::notices::
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 29, 2007, 09:34:23 PM
Those at Columbia notice all. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 29, 2007, 09:35:48 PM
I'm just going to casually bump this thread and hope no one notices.

::notices::

Well, since you dropped by, perhaps you can provide info on the coffee at Columbia.  You can deposit it in my COFFEE thread, if you have time.  It is important.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 29, 2007, 09:45:58 PM
I don't think New York has any coffee. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 29, 2007, 09:48:13 PM
I don't think New York has any coffee. 

Malicious lies!

Did you hear?  The city of Chicago is thinking about banning coffee.  So says Resident CLS Troll!  It must be true.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on January 29, 2007, 09:51:16 PM
I don't think New York has any coffee. 

Malicious lies!

Did you hear?  The city of Chicago is thinking about banning coffee.  So says Resident CLS Troll!  It must be true.

They're already banning cigarettes.  Maybe they need a stronger libertarian presence?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on January 29, 2007, 09:53:17 PM
I don't think New York has any coffee. 

Malicious lies!

Did you hear?  The city of Chicago is thinking about banning coffee.  So says Resident CLS Troll!  It must be true.

They're already banning cigarettes.  Maybe they need a stronger libertarian presence?

Well, maybe they're afraid the coffee will encourage the cigarettes.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: poiuyt on January 30, 2007, 05:32:19 PM
I sent my application fee to Chicago in November, but they still have not cashed the check. Does Chicago take an unusually long time to cash checks?
Can I go complete even before they cash the check?
My December LSAT score was the last piece of my application, but I still have not received a notice that I'm complete.

Please answer my questions! Thanks.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: mufich on January 30, 2007, 05:44:33 PM
They took forever for mine! Sent it in 11/9, was finally cashed I think 3-4 days ago. Hopefully it means decisions are comin'
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on January 30, 2007, 05:48:01 PM
I sent my application in on September 11 and they cashed my check about 2 weeks later. I'm still waiting :( (then again, I did go complete in January bc I re-took the LSAT)...CHICAGO, PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY!!!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: poiuyt on January 30, 2007, 06:00:14 PM
Ahh OK. I'll have to find out why I'm not complete yet.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: ciao-a-bunga on January 30, 2007, 07:19:09 PM
They took forever for mine! Sent it in 11/9, was finally cashed I think 3-4 days ago. Hopefully it means decisions are comin'

 :o  I hope they don't overdraw my account! 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: sentimentalhygienist on January 31, 2007, 11:59:14 AM
They took forever for mine! Sent it in 11/9, was finally cashed I think 3-4 days ago. Hopefully it means decisions are comin'

They just cashed my check too (sent in on 11/8).  Wonder if they're covering their asses before sending out rejections.  (How tempting would it be to cancel a check after getting a rejection).

(Not that I would ever do anything so thoroughly vile and unprincipled).
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: sillyberry on February 01, 2007, 07:55:28 AM
So, I keep going back and forth on Chicago. The more research I do, the more I think that I wouldn't enjoy living in Chicago. There's high cost of living, lots of traffic, and terrible weather. I really think I'd be more happy in a mid-size city. Right now I'm thinking I'd take Duke, Boalt or Michigan over Chicago just because of the location. Anybody want to convince me otherwise?

I have never been crazy about the idea of Chicago, but everyone I know seems to love the city and wants me to move there so they can visit.

I'm going for the first time in a week and a half...I'll give my thoughts!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 01, 2007, 08:03:57 AM
So, I keep going back and forth on Chicago. The more research I do, the more I think that I wouldn't enjoy living in Chicago. There's high cost of living, lots of traffic, and terrible weather. I really think I'd be more happy in a mid-size city. Right now I'm thinking I'd take Duke, Boalt or Michigan over Chicago just because of the location. Anybody want to convince me otherwise?

I don't really want to "convince you otherwise," because those are all reasonable concerns, but I guess let me throw out a few considerations:
1)  The Chicago cost of living is extremely low for a big city.  You're probably going to spend more on your apartment in Chicago than I imagine you would in Durham or Ann Arbor (though I would guess given California property prices, Berkeley is probably the same or more expensive), but I don't think the overall cost of living is otherwise much more expensive.  (NOTE: I don't have much direct experience, I'm just making guesses based on my knowledge of the regions, so I could be wrong).
2)  If you're concerned about weather, Chicago is worse than Berkeley or Durham, but probably very similar to Ann Arbor.  Also, I haven't found Chicago weather to be that bad (and this is coming from a Texan), but I've been fortunate so far to have two very mild winters.
3)  For the type of driving you'll be doing as a student, traffic won't be a problem.  Most of the people who live 15-20 miles north in the city say their commute time is 30 minutes.  The only time I've ever run into traffic is driving to and from O'Hare.
4)  Finally, while I think you raise some very valid considerations, you have to trade these off against the opportunities provided by Chicago vs. the other schools.  I'm not sure what your post-school plans are, but I can almost guarantee Chicago will do a better job of getting you to them than the other three schools you have listed.

Anyway, I don't think choosing any of those schools over Chicago is outrageous, particularly given that you are likely to get money at them.  Those are just the ameliorating considerations I'd throw out there.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 01, 2007, 10:47:20 AM
Shanny!  Don't pick Boalt, Duke, or Michigan!  I didn't apply to those!

And Shanny--if you get into Columbia and Chicago, do you think you'd definitely go to Columbia?  Or Chicago?  Or neither?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 01, 2007, 10:49:51 AM
Shanny!  Don't pick Boalt, Duke, or Michigan!  I didn't apply to those!

And Shanny--if you get into Columbia and Chicago, do you think you'd definitely go to Columbia?  Or Chicago?  Or neither?

Don't make her answer that yet >:(

I mean, I'm not trolling shanny anymore. Whoops!

I'm just curious what her thought process is. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on February 01, 2007, 11:49:46 AM
Shanny!  Don't pick Boalt, Duke, or Michigan!  I didn't apply to those!

And Shanny--if you get into Columbia and Chicago, do you think you'd definitely go to Columbia?  Or Chicago?  Or neither?

If it comes down to Columbia or Chicago, I think I'm leaning toward Columbia, though I'm only 99% sure at this point.

I'm deleting this as soon as you see it.  Can't let the trolls find out.

Too late.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on February 01, 2007, 12:01:42 PM
Shanny!  Don't pick Boalt, Duke, or Michigan!  I didn't apply to those!

And Shanny--if you get into Columbia and Chicago, do you think you'd definitely go to Columbia?  Or Chicago?  Or neither?

If it comes down to Columbia or Chicago, I think I'm leaning toward Columbia, though I'm only 99% sure at this point.

I'm deleting this as soon as you see it.  Can't let the trolls find out.

Too late.

 :D

quote manipulation is the basest form of LSD trickery.

and fake quote GENERATION is the basest form of quote manipulation.  ;)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on February 01, 2007, 12:08:52 PM
Shanny!  Don't pick Boalt, Duke, or Michigan!  I didn't apply to those!

And Shanny--if you get into Columbia and Chicago, do you think you'd definitely go to Columbia?  Or Chicago?  Or neither?

If it comes down to Columbia or Chicago, I think I'm leaning toward Columbia, though I'm only 99% sure at this point.

I'm deleting this as soon as you see it.  Can't let the trolls find out.

Too late.

 :D

quote manipulation is the basest form of LSD trickery.

and fake quote GENERATION is the basest form of quote manipulation.  ;)

That was cruel. I got really excited. :-[

Well, now I just feel bad.  :-\

Well if Shanny decides not to come to CLS, I won't be the one making that decision, so hopefully I won't be the one crushing your hopes that time around.  :(
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 01, 2007, 01:05:22 PM
Thanks, MTG. Your response is very helpful. I just didn't want to make up my mind about Chicago without hearing a few other points of view.  As for your point #4, my goal isn't Biglaw, so I think the increased opportunities at a place like Chicago are going to matter less to me than living someplace where I'll be comfortable and happy.

Yeah, I absolutely encourage people not to make up their mind early.  Everyone should visit the schools they are most interested in with an open mind.  I highly recommend ASWs for this.

And for placement purposes, I didn't just mean BIGLAW. I meant clerkships, academia, government, and competitive public interest.  It probably doesn't provide too much advantage for smaller regional firms though.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Schruted on February 01, 2007, 03:53:18 PM
When's the next call date if we don't hear tomorrow?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Denny Crane on February 01, 2007, 04:07:20 PM
Schruted!

A name and 'tar to rival my own.  Well done.  ;)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Trekkie Monster on February 01, 2007, 04:40:59 PM
If it goes by last year's standard, and we do not receive a call, the next one would be Feb 22nd.  Almost a 3 week wait this time. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: johnromero on February 01, 2007, 05:56:28 PM
If it goes by last year's standard, and we do not receive a call, the next one would be Feb 22nd.  Almost a 3 week wait this time. 

By last year's standard, my call, if I am to receive one, would be on the 3rd week of February.

Good luck to us all.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 01, 2007, 06:00:26 PM
If it goes by last year's standard, and we do not receive a call, the next one would be Feb 22nd.  Almost a 3 week wait this time. 

By last year's standard, my call, if I am to receive one, would be on the 3rd week of February.

Good luck to us all.

When did you go complete again?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on February 01, 2007, 06:59:28 PM
(stealth baff.)

Not so stealthy. :)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Trekkie Monster on February 02, 2007, 01:44:39 AM
Dear Care Bears,

Since I am not currently worshiping a deity, I am asking for your help.  Please let me get into Chicago with an acceptance tomorrow.  I promise to play nice with all the other boys and girls.  And I will study everyday.  Thank you.

Sincerely,

Trekkie Monster

PS.  Please let me relax and get some sleep tonight.   ;D
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 02, 2007, 06:53:33 AM
Will today be the day?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: LSAT Granddad on February 02, 2007, 08:33:43 AM
Will today be the day?
Today is the day! ;)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: pikey on February 02, 2007, 09:25:16 AM
I'm in!!!!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on February 02, 2007, 09:29:15 AM
I'm in!!!!

Congrats! Now it's time for me to go do something else where I can't compulsively check my phone/LSD every 5 seconds
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: pikey on February 02, 2007, 09:29:45 AM
I'm in!!!!

Surprised? Not so much, but CONGRATS!!!!

Thanks! As silly as it may sound, I'm always surprised!  :)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Pete Steele on February 02, 2007, 09:31:08 AM
Congrats!  Was is phone / mail / or email?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: pikey on February 02, 2007, 09:39:04 AM
Congrats!  Was is phone / mail / or email?

Phone
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Denny Crane on February 02, 2007, 10:45:41 AM
Also in today by phone, w/ followup email to come on Tuesday and acceptance package sometime soon thereafter.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Denny Crane on February 02, 2007, 11:07:18 AM
I'm in too =D

Hot
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 02, 2007, 11:09:25 AM
*apprehensive*
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on February 02, 2007, 11:17:29 AM
I'm in too =D

complete date?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Schruted on February 02, 2007, 11:18:32 AM
Also in today by phone, w/ followup email to come on Tuesday and acceptance package sometime soon thereafter.

Congrats, not that you needed Chicago anyway. When was your app complete? How about the others who've been accepted today?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 02, 2007, 11:22:26 AM
Also in today by phone, w/ followup email to come on Tuesday and acceptance package sometime soon thereafter.

Congrats, not that you needed Chicago anyway. When was your app complete? How about the others who've been accepted today?

Cityslicker and Moni were both complete in mid-November.

I was too but have heard nothing.   :-\ 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on February 02, 2007, 11:26:42 AM
Also in today by phone, w/ followup email to come on Tuesday and acceptance package sometime soon thereafter.

Congrats, not that you needed Chicago anyway. When was your app complete? How about the others who've been accepted today?

Cityslicker and Moni were both complete in mid-November.

I was too but have heard nothing.   :-\ 

It's still early, Hank. With your numbers, I'd be surprised if you didn't get in.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: nerfco on February 02, 2007, 11:51:26 AM
Chicago phoned me today and left a message on my answering machine stating they had a message for me regarding my status. Does this mean I was accepted? (Pretty sure it does.)

If so  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 02, 2007, 11:54:26 AM
Congrats new Chicago admits!!!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on February 02, 2007, 12:00:14 PM
If Brito isn't accepted today, I'm sending Chicago a nasty look.

 >:(
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 02, 2007, 12:05:15 PM
If Brito isn't accepted today, I'm sending Chicago a nasty look.

 >:(

Hank too, right?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 02, 2007, 12:05:21 PM
If Brito isn't accepted today, I'm sending Chicago a nasty look.

 >:(

It would have to be pure YP.  She and Hank are both clearly qualified.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Schruted on February 02, 2007, 12:16:25 PM
If any December completes get accepted today, I'd really love to hear about it...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Trekkie Monster on February 02, 2007, 12:34:51 PM
Anyone know how late calls will continue?  And will there be any calls Monday if they are waiting till Tuesday to send out the email? Feel free to speculate. I can't stand the waiting. :-)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Denny Crane on February 02, 2007, 12:43:32 PM
Anyone know how late calls will continue?  And will there be any calls Monday if they are waiting till Tuesday to send out the email? Feel free to speculate. I can't stand the waiting. :-)

I'd say phone calls will continue today until end of business (central time) and continue until end of business on Tuesday, with the email being sent out sometime Tuesday after the close of business.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: daydreamer on February 02, 2007, 12:46:51 PM
IN AT CHICAGO!!!!!!!!!!  (via phone call) I CAN'T BELIEVE IT AND AM STILL SHAKING!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 02, 2007, 12:55:29 PM
Anyone know how late calls will continue?  And will there be any calls Monday if they are waiting till Tuesday to send out the email? Feel free to speculate. I can't stand the waiting. :-)

I'd say phone calls will continue today until end of business (central time) and continue until end of business on Tuesday, with the email being sent out sometime Tuesday after the close of business.

Why do you think they'll last till Tuesday?

Congrats daydreamer!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on February 02, 2007, 01:11:49 PM
If Brito isn't accepted today, I'm sending Chicago a nasty look.

 >:(

Hank too, right?

For some reason, I thought you were already in. Confusing CLS and Chicago, probably.

You'd both better get in. I'll personally call Milton Friedman and ask him to help out if you don't. Me and Milton go way back.

"29 January 2007 has been declared Milton Friedman Day by Arnold Schwarzeneggar, Governor of California, to honor his life, works, and achievements, as well as his influence on modern economic and governmental policy."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Friedman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Friedman)

Happy belated Milton Friedman day!

EDIT: Yes, I know he is dead. I have the uncanny ability to channel the spirits of dead economists. Shut up Keynes, I'll get to you later!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Denny Crane on February 02, 2007, 02:00:50 PM
Anyone know how late calls will continue?  And will there be any calls Monday if they are waiting till Tuesday to send out the email? Feel free to speculate. I can't stand the waiting. :-)

I'd say phone calls will continue today until end of business (central time) and continue until end of business on Tuesday, with the email being sent out sometime Tuesday after the close of business.

Why do you think they'll last till Tuesday?

Just a guess.  From what I (barely) remember about this cycle, whenever schools send out confirmation emails they tended to be throughout the day and past business hours.  I suspect during this time they would also continue to call people to accept them, as they're sending out confirmations to previously accepted people.  At the very least they'll continue through Monday.

Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: 245 on February 02, 2007, 03:10:27 PM
Congratulations, everyone!  That is such exciting news!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 02, 2007, 03:30:44 PM
Hah, well if Mike hasn't heard back yet, I don't feel so bad.

Edit: nevermind, I just got in.   :D
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 02, 2007, 03:39:26 PM
Okay, so after an insane night last night during which i lost my purse, with my phone, I finally activated my old phone (thanks to amazing friends who pretend to be me because i can't call verizon myself) and checked my voicemail, and CHICAGO HAD CALLED!!!

This means I'm in right?  :D

Hank congrats! On this, and the HLS interview!

Yay mpark!  You coming to ASW in April?

And I'll have to talk to you about that HLS interview this weekend...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 02, 2007, 03:41:39 PM
Okay, so after an insane night last night during which i lost my purse, with my phone, I finally activated my old phone (thanks to amazing friends who pretend to be me because i can't call verizon myself) and checked my voicemail, and CHICAGO HAD CALLED!!!

This means I'm in right?  :D

Hank congrats! On this, and the HLS interview!

Yay mpark!  You coming to ASW in April?

And I'll have to talk to you about that HLS interview this weekend...

When are the ASWs? 

April 12-14
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: pikey on February 02, 2007, 03:44:21 PM
Congrats Hank and Mpark!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Trekkie Monster on February 02, 2007, 03:46:48 PM
So does anyone else think there will be addition phone calls on Monday or should I cry a little tear?  :'(

Also, we should hear either way shouldn't we?  Only deferrals and rejects come via mail?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on February 02, 2007, 03:47:26 PM
Congrats Hank and mpark!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 02, 2007, 03:54:36 PM
Thanks everyone! This more than takes the sting out of the CLS waitlist, I'm so excited!

Given your numbers, it looks like you had a very strong application.  You should be proud of that.

I hope you take this as a compliment not an insult; generally, schools don't admit too many folks with both LSAT and GPA below their medians. That you got admitted even though both your numbers were slightly below suggests you put together a kickass app. Congrats!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Denny Crane on February 02, 2007, 04:00:47 PM
Thanks everyone! This more than takes the sting out of the CLS waitlist, I'm so excited!

Did you call them back?  I mean, I'm 100% sure it means you got in, but just want to make sure you called back.  Also, CONGRATS!!!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: DaveMaster15 on February 02, 2007, 04:02:07 PM
WOW....I'M IN....WOWWOWOWOWOOWOWOWOWOWOW

She called 30 minutes after Yale.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Denny Crane on February 02, 2007, 04:04:59 PM
WOW....I'M IN....WOWWOWOWOWOOWOWOWOWOWOW

She called 30 minutes after Yale.

Yale and Chicago on the same day?  Excellent.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: pikey on February 02, 2007, 04:08:19 PM
WOW....I'M IN....WOWWOWOWOWOOWOWOWOWOWOW

She called 30 minutes after Yale.

Congrats!!!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: 245 on February 02, 2007, 04:09:38 PM
Congrats, mpark, hank and davemaster!  That's so exciting!  So are you all going to the ASW?

I just got the call a few minutes ago too, so I'm excited and relieved to be done with this part of my admissions cycle. :)

Good luck to everyone still waiting to hear back!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 02, 2007, 04:15:44 PM
BTW, I expect the next round of admissions will be in two weeks again (Friday, Feb. 16).  The admissions office said they would be done with the regular round of admits by, I think, March 1, but I would guess I'm either misremembering or they meant Friday, March 2.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: pikey on February 02, 2007, 04:18:36 PM
Congrats, mpark, hank and davemaster!  That's so exciting!  So are you all going to the ASW?

I just got the call a few minutes ago too, so I'm excited and relieved to be done with this part of my admissions cycle. :)

Good luck to everyone still waiting to hear back!

Originally I hadn't planned to go to Chicago's ASW because I visited back in October when I went up for the NU interview, but y'all are definitely making me reconsider.  Dont forget to check out the msg board on the admitted students site!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 02, 2007, 04:21:18 PM
Congrats, mpark, hank and davemaster!  That's so exciting!  So are you all going to the ASW?

I just got the call a few minutes ago too, so I'm excited and relieved to be done with this part of my admissions cycle. :)

Good luck to everyone still waiting to hear back!

Originally I hadn't planned to go to Chicago's ASW because I visited back in October when I went up for the NU interview, but y'all are definitely making me reconsider.  Dont forget to check out the msg board on the admitted students site!

If you're coming from over 150 miles away, they'll pay $200 of plane fare.  And they'll put you up with a student host.  So it is effectively free.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: pikey on February 02, 2007, 04:29:33 PM
Congrats, mpark, hank and davemaster!  That's so exciting!  So are you all going to the ASW?

I just got the call a few minutes ago too, so I'm excited and relieved to be done with this part of my admissions cycle. :)

Good luck to everyone still waiting to hear back!

Originally I hadn't planned to go to Chicago's ASW because I visited back in October when I went up for the NU interview, but y'all are definitely making me reconsider.  Dont forget to check out the msg board on the admitted students site!

If you're coming from over 150 miles away, they'll pay $200 of plane fare.  And they'll put you up with a student host.  So it is effectively free.

I'd still have to pay $150 more in airfare, but the real problem is getting the vacation time.  I'll see!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 02, 2007, 04:35:07 PM
Congrats, mpark, hank and davemaster!  That's so exciting!  So are you all going to the ASW?

I just got the call a few minutes ago too, so I'm excited and relieved to be done with this part of my admissions cycle. :)

Good luck to everyone still waiting to hear back!

Originally I hadn't planned to go to Chicago's ASW because I visited back in October when I went up for the NU interview, but y'all are definitely making me reconsider.  Dont forget to check out the msg board on the admitted students site!

If you're coming from over 150 miles away, they'll pay $200 of plane fare.  And they'll put you up with a student host.  So it is effectively free.

I'd still have to pay $150 more in airfare, but the real problem is getting the vacation time.  I'll see!

Given where you're coming from, I wouldn't be surprised if the admissions office would make an exception to the $200 policy.  If you get the time off of work and decide to come, give them a call and ask.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on February 02, 2007, 04:35:41 PM
Congrats, mpark, hank and davemaster!  That's so exciting!  So are you all going to the ASW?

I just got the call a few minutes ago too, so I'm excited and relieved to be done with this part of my admissions cycle. :)

Good luck to everyone still waiting to hear back!

Congrats on a clean sweep!

And congrats to everyone else who got into Chicago today!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: johnromero on February 02, 2007, 05:59:47 PM
Okay, so after an insane night last night during which i lost my purse, with my phone, I finally activated my old phone (thanks to amazing friends who pretend to be me because i can't call verizon myself) and checked my voicemail, and CHICAGO HAD CALLED!!!

This means I'm in right?  :D

Hank congrats! On this, and the HLS interview!

Congrats mpark! And everyone else who got in. I hope to join you guys later this month.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: akakakaka on February 02, 2007, 06:01:53 PM
Any idea when the first $ offers will go out?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 02, 2007, 06:47:09 PM
So, I didn't get a phone call today, and I went complete the same day as hank and mike245. So, I'm thinking this means I'm not getting in.  :-\

Has to be YP.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 02, 2007, 06:48:58 PM
Any idea when the first $ offers will go out?

I think I got mine in late March.  So probably somewhere in that range.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Stuart on February 02, 2007, 06:58:04 PM
First of all, congratulations to all who got in today. Pretty exciting.

So who all is still waiting, and when did you go complete? 12/6 here....

Good luck,
Stuart
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 02, 2007, 07:23:30 PM
So, I didn't get a phone call today, and I went complete the same day as hank and mike245. So, I'm thinking this means I'm not getting in.  :-\

Has to be YP.

I don't understand...why would they YP me, but not hank or mike? That doesn't make sense. I'm more inclined to believe they didn't like something about my app. Oh well.

Not sure.  If you're really interested in Chicago, make sure you follow up.  Your app may have just had something in it that suggested you weren't likely to be interested in Chicago.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on February 02, 2007, 07:35:05 PM
So, I didn't get a phone call today, and I went complete the same day as hank and mike245. So, I'm thinking this means I'm not getting in.  :-\

according to last year's LSN there were some people who were complete in November who got their decisions with those who went complete in December and January and there were also multiple days of phone calls in February...like one after the other...so don't give up hope yet!

http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/search_schools.php?action=search&cycle=3&school_code=0021&status=3&sort=complete&order=d&status=3&application_type=0&program=1
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: tapper on February 02, 2007, 07:43:11 PM
BTW, I expect the next round of admissions will be in two weeks again (Friday, Feb. 16).  The admissions office said they would be done with the regular round of admits by, I think, March 1, but I would guess I'm either misremembering or they meant Friday, March 2.

MTG, thanks for all the great information about Chicago.

When you say "regular round of admits", what is meant by that?  Are you just talking about all non-waitlist acceptances...or non-deferrals as well?  Or something else?  Thanks again.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: johnromero on February 02, 2007, 08:12:21 PM
First of all, congratulations to all who got in today. Pretty exciting.

So who all is still waiting, and when did you go complete? 12/6 here....

Good luck,
Stuart

I went complete a week after you, so I'm not expecting anything yet.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 02, 2007, 08:13:11 PM
BTW, I expect the next round of admissions will be in two weeks again (Friday, Feb. 16).  The admissions office said they would be done with the regular round of admits by, I think, March 1, but I would guess I'm either misremembering or they meant Friday, March 2.

MTG, thanks for all the great information about Chicago.

When you say "regular round of admits", what is meant by that?  Are you just talking about all non-waitlist acceptances...or non-deferrals as well?  Or something else?  Thanks again.

I think this refers to non-WL and non-deferral.  Not sure.  It was just a comment they made at one of our meetings, so I don't have too much more to go on.

Also, I was just making a guess as to them waiting two weeks.  Someone above said LSN showed decisions trickling in last year, so that could definitely happen.  I wasn't using any sort of inside information with that prediction.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: johnromero on February 02, 2007, 08:16:32 PM
I think this refers to non-WL and non-deferral.  Not sure.  It was just a comment they made at one of our meetings, so I don't have too much more to go on.

Also, I was just making a guess as to them waiting two weeks.  Someone above said LSN showed decisions trickling in last year, so that could definitely happen.  I wasn't using any sort of inside information with that prediction.

It would be great if there were a person like MTG (unofficial admissions rep kinda deal) for every school. Because of MTG's helpful comments, there's been no confusion regarding the Chicago situation.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 02, 2007, 08:25:18 PM
First of all, congratulations to all who got in today. Pretty exciting.

So who all is still waiting, and when did you go complete? 12/6 here....

Good luck,
Stuart

I went complete a week after you, so I'm not expecting anything yet.

The last complete date for today's round that I'm seeing on LSN is 11/28, so don't worry just yet! :)

Congrats on Chicago!!!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 02, 2007, 08:29:58 PM
First of all, congratulations to all who got in today. Pretty exciting.

So who all is still waiting, and when did you go complete? 12/6 here....

Good luck,
Stuart

I went complete a week after you, so I'm not expecting anything yet.

The last complete date for today's round that I'm seeing on LSN is 11/28, so don't worry just yet! :)

Congrats on Chicago!!!

I'm confident that you'll be in the next round.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on February 02, 2007, 08:34:28 PM
First of all, congratulations to all who got in today. Pretty exciting.

So who all is still waiting, and when did you go complete? 12/6 here....

Good luck,
Stuart

I went complete a week after you, so I'm not expecting anything yet.

The last complete date for today's round that I'm seeing on LSN is 11/28, so don't worry just yet! :)

Congrats on Chicago!!!

I'm confident that you'll be in the next round.

Same sentiment, different school.

Congratulations to mpark.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 02, 2007, 08:34:28 PM
First of all, congratulations to all who got in today. Pretty exciting.

So who all is still waiting, and when did you go complete? 12/6 here....

Good luck,
Stuart

I went complete a week after you, so I'm not expecting anything yet.

The last complete date for today's round that I'm seeing on LSN is 11/28, so don't worry just yet! :)

Congrats on Chicago!!!

I'm confident that you'll be in the next round.

Thank you.  I definitely hope so!  Even if the T-Stock call goes well next week, I might still favor Chicago. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 02, 2007, 08:36:30 PM
BTW, everybody who got accepted in the last round (two weeks ago) or in the ED round before that should have had a username/password for the admitted students board e-mailed to them a week ago.  I already talked to two people who either didn't get the e-mail or missed it.  So if you don't remember getting one, check your spam filters or all the e-mail you deleted without reading.

People are already posting over on that board, and it ends up being a pretty useful site both throughout the application period and into the summer as you're gearing up to start school.  Lots of people use it to find roommates, for example.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 02, 2007, 08:39:24 PM
First of all, congratulations to all who got in today. Pretty exciting.

So who all is still waiting, and when did you go complete? 12/6 here....

Good luck,
Stuart

I went complete a week after you, so I'm not expecting anything yet.

The last complete date for today's round that I'm seeing on LSN is 11/28, so don't worry just yet! :)

Congrats on Chicago!!!

I'm confident that you'll be in the next round.

Thank you.  I definitely hope so!  Even if the T-Stock calls goes well next week, I might still favor Chicago. 

Oooh, T-Stock phone call?  Double congrats.  You're going to have a busy ASW season.  And I suspect Chicago will make the decision even more difficult by throwing some money your way.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 02, 2007, 08:42:32 PM
First of all, congratulations to all who got in today. Pretty exciting.

So who all is still waiting, and when did you go complete? 12/6 here....

Good luck,
Stuart

I went complete a week after you, so I'm not expecting anything yet.

The last complete date for today's round that I'm seeing on LSN is 11/28, so don't worry just yet! :)

Congrats on Chicago!!!

I'm confident that you'll be in the next round.

Thank you.  I definitely hope so!  Even if the T-Stock calls goes well next week, I might still favor Chicago. 

Oooh, T-Stock phone call?  Double congrats.  You're going to have a busy ASW season.  And I suspect Chicago will make the decision even more difficult by throwing some money your way.

Thank you!  That would be so wonderful.  I wasn't considering Harvard as a realistic possibility until now, so this does change my thought processes a bit.  However, I definitely want to go to the school that is the best fit and the best all-around deal for me, and that wouldn't be an easy choice.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 02, 2007, 08:52:19 PM
Oh, and while I'm thinking of the admitted students board, it might be good for me to mention the following:

I, and a bunch of other Chicago students, answer questions that get posted to the Admitted Students Board.  However, because it is a University of Chicago hosted website and run by the admissions committee, I have a policy about not saying anything negative about the university or its professors over there.  By contrast, I'll be completely honest on LSD and XO.

It's not that I'm worried about getting "caught" (anyone who can read my posts over there can and do read them over here and on XO); I just feel like it would be disrespectful to use the University's service to say bad things about the University.  And it's also not that I lie; I just use the "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all" approach.

Finally, just to avoid any confusion, I don't really have much bad to say about Chicago at all.  If you've read my posts here, you know I love it.  That said, if you ask about my 1L profs on the ASB, I'll tell you about all the great ones; if you ask about them over here, I'll mention the one bad one (and there really only is one bad 1L prof at Chicago).

I'm telling you all this so that you know how I feel about it, and so you know where to ask the... ahem... "controversial" questions.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 02, 2007, 08:55:03 PM
First of all, congratulations to all who got in today. Pretty exciting.

So who all is still waiting, and when did you go complete? 12/6 here....

Good luck,
Stuart

I went complete a week after you, so I'm not expecting anything yet.

The last complete date for today's round that I'm seeing on LSN is 11/28, so don't worry just yet! :)

Congrats on Chicago!!!

I'm confident that you'll be in the next round.

Thank you.  I definitely hope so!  Even if the T-Stock calls goes well next week, I might still favor Chicago. 

Oooh, T-Stock phone call?  Double congrats.  You're going to have a busy ASW season.  And I suspect Chicago will make the decision even more difficult by throwing some money your way.

Thank you!  That would be so wonderful.  I wasn't considering Harvard as a realistic possibility until now, so this does change my thought processes a bit.  However, I definitely want to go to the school that is the best fit and the best all-around deal for me, and that wouldn't be an easy choice.

Basically, I have a four step Brito-recruitment strategy:
Step 1) Convince Brito to fly in a day early for ASW
Step 2) Take Brito to an Edmund Burke Society Debate
Step 3) Brito and Edmund Burke members go out for cigars and scotch at a Chicago jazz club post-debate
Step 4) Brito says "Harvard who?"
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on February 02, 2007, 08:57:12 PM
Oh, and while I'm thinking of the admitted students board, it might be good for me to mention the following:

I, and a bunch of other Chicago students, answer questions that get posted to the Admitted Students Board.  However, because it is a University of Chicago hosted website and run by the admissions committee, I have a policy about not saying anything negative about the university or its professors over there.  By contrast, I'll be completely honest on LSD and XO.

It's not that I'm worried about getting "caught" (anyone who can read my posts over there can and do read them over here and on XO); I just feel like it would be disrespectful to use the University's service to say bad things about the University.  And it's also not that I lie; I just use the "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all" approach.

Finally, just to avoid any confusion, I don't really have much bad to say about Chicago at all.  If you've read my posts here, you know I love it.  That said, if you ask about my 1L profs on the ASB, I'll tell you about all the great ones; if you ask about them over here, I'll mention the one bad one (and there really only is one bad 1L prof at Chicago).

I'm telling you all this so that you know how I feel about it, and so you know where to ask the... ahem... "controversial" questions.

You're a class act, Mr. Rothwell.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: johnromero on February 02, 2007, 08:57:24 PM
Basically, I have a four step Brito-recruitment strategy:
Step 1) Convince Brito to fly in a day early for ASW
Step 2) Take Brito to an Edmund Burke Society Debate
Step 3) Brito and Edmund Burke members go out for cigars and scotch at a Chicago jazz club post-debate
Step 4) Brito says "Harvard who?"

You forgot the fifth and sixth steps:

Step 5) ???
Step 6) Profit!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 02, 2007, 09:06:31 PM
Basically, I have a four step Brito-recruitment strategy:
Step 1) Convince Brito to fly in a day early for ASW
Step 2) Take Brito to an Edmund Burke Society Debate
Step 3) Brito and Edmund Burke members go out for cigars and scotch at a Chicago jazz club post-debate
Step 4) Brito says "Harvard who?"

You forgot the fifth and sixth steps:

Step 5) ???
Step 6) Profit!

As a card-carrying Chicago L&E type of guy, I never forget the "profit" step.  That said, I really didn't want to type that out, because it turned my reasonably innocent strong-arm recruitment into some sort of lascivious abduction plan.

More blunty, I was trying to avoid turning "cute" into "creepy."
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 02, 2007, 09:07:00 PM

Basically, I have a four step Brito-recruitment strategy:
Step 1) Convince Brito to fly in a day early for ASW
Step 2) Take Brito to an Edmund Burke Society Debate
Step 3) Brito and Edmund Burke members go out for cigars and scotch at a Chicago jazz club post-debate
Step 4) Brito says "Harvard who?"

That sounds frighteningly effective.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 02, 2007, 09:10:49 PM

Basically, I have a four step Brito-recruitment strategy:
Step 1) Convince Brito to fly in a day early for ASW
Step 2) Take Brito to an Edmund Burke Society Debate
Step 3) Brito and Edmund Burke members go out for cigars and scotch at a Chicago jazz club post-debate
Step 4) Brito says "Harvard who?"

That sounds frighteningly effective.

Yup, I figured step 1 would be the hardest part of it all.

My Hank recruitment strategy really isn't all that different.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 02, 2007, 09:43:25 PM

Basically, I have a four step Brito-recruitment strategy:
Step 1) Convince Brito to fly in a day early for ASW
Step 2) Take Brito to an Edmund Burke Society Debate
Step 3) Brito and Edmund Burke members go out for cigars and scotch at a Chicago jazz club post-debate
Step 4) Brito says "Harvard who?"

That sounds frighteningly effective.

Yup, I figured step 1 would be the hardest part of it all.

My Hank recruitment strategy really isn't all that different.

Heh, and by the time Chicago ASW rolls around, I'll be legal too!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 02, 2007, 09:54:51 PM

Basically, I have a four step Brito-recruitment strategy:
Step 1) Convince Brito to fly in a day early for ASW
Step 2) Take Brito to an Edmund Burke Society Debate
Step 3) Brito and Edmund Burke members go out for cigars and scotch at a Chicago jazz club post-debate
Step 4) Brito says "Harvard who?"

That sounds frighteningly effective.

Yup, I figured step 1 would be the hardest part of it all.

My Hank recruitment strategy really isn't all that different.

Heh, and by the time Chicago ASW rolls around, I'll be legal too!

Good!  I hope I'll be there, too!  I can't wait!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 02, 2007, 09:58:16 PM

Basically, I have a four step Brito-recruitment strategy:
Step 1) Convince Brito to fly in a day early for ASW
Step 2) Take Brito to an Edmund Burke Society Debate
Step 3) Brito and Edmund Burke members go out for cigars and scotch at a Chicago jazz club post-debate
Step 4) Brito says "Harvard who?"

That sounds frighteningly effective.

Yup, I figured step 1 would be the hardest part of it all.

My Hank recruitment strategy really isn't all that different.

Heh, and by the time Chicago ASW rolls around, I'll be legal too!

Good!  I hope I'll be there, too!  I can't wait!

Pssst, MTG...you've got her where you want her!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: mericore on February 03, 2007, 05:51:58 AM
Got the phone call at about quarter till 7 last night. I was doing First Friday in Philly, so I got to be all pretentious and say "Sorry if it's loud, I'm at a gallery opening." Haha. Seriously though, the rep I spoke to was so nice and friendly! Almost made me forget about Columbia for a few seconds!  ;)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: chitownluva on February 03, 2007, 09:51:49 AM
I got the phone call when I got back from work last night and made an attempt to call back in case they were still in the office but to no avail. I'm taking it as a green light though and I am now officially pumped. I went to an open house back in November and it was awesome! I can't wait for the ASW and I hope to meet many of you there.

Congrats to all who've gotten in and good luck to those still waiting!

Chicago and Harvard are neck and neck right now but Yale still has the potential to throw a monkey wrench into things if they so desire.  And by the way, MTG has been good about not mentioning this, but the wind chill has us at about -20 degrees right now in Chitown.  Awesome.  Supposedly could get colder tomorrow.  That hasn't stopped those insane guys who ice fish on the harbor outside my window!  Unbelievable. 

Let's just say that days like this make you appreciate how awesome the Spring, Summer and Fall are here. In LA I used to take it for granted but now I wake up every day during the summer excited to enjoy the beauty!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 03, 2007, 09:59:31 AM
That's exciting news, chitown!  It's 44 degrees in Texas right now, and that is about ten degrees too cold to run.   :-\

I hope I get to have Chicago vs. Harvard (vs. Columbia, to appease trolls) decision too!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: johnromero on February 03, 2007, 10:57:21 AM
That's exciting news, chitown!  It's 44 degrees in Texas right now, and that is about ten degrees too cold to run.   :-\

44 is pretty warm. In fact I went for a short hike yesterday while it was 45 out. Lovely weather.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 03, 2007, 11:24:22 AM
Chicago and Harvard are neck and neck right now but Yale still has the potential to throw a monkey wrench into things if they so desire.  And by the way, MTG has been good about not mentioning this, but the wind chill has us at about -20 degrees right now in Chitown.  Awesome.  Supposedly could get colder tomorrow.  That hasn't stopped those insane guys who ice fish on the harbor outside my window!  Unbelievable. 

I didn't mention that because I didn't know that.  Holy *&^%.  I knew it was colder than I've ever seen it, but I didn't know it was THAT cold.

Oh well.  A good weekend for me to stay inside 24/7 and work on my moot court brief that is due on Friday.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: jd2bee on February 05, 2007, 11:14:42 AM
Anyone try calling the office back today, who missed the call Friday?  I can't get through, but I want actual confirmation that I got in!

I did - called this morning and asked to speak to Michael Matchin (I think that was his name - left me the VM).  He said he was calling to give me an acceptance - woohoo!  8 down, 3 to go!  What a great way to start the week :)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: yeacrew on February 05, 2007, 11:21:29 AM
what do you think would happen if i called him and said "i got your voice message last week and you said to call back"

think that would work? :) i would love to go to chicago and be with fellow nerds and intellectuals. gosh i miss school.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Pugnacious on February 05, 2007, 03:26:02 PM
Received Hold Letter from Chicago today - I feel lucky considering my LSAT is kind of low for them.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Denny Crane on February 05, 2007, 03:46:07 PM
Received Hold Letter from Chicago today - I feel lucky considering my LSAT is kind of low for them.

Show them your 'tar pic.  How can they not love pugs?  Also, btw, I think PugAttack is one of the best names I've seen on LSN, period.  I hope Chicago recognizes your awesomeness, best of luck.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: elidad on February 05, 2007, 04:00:01 PM
prajna:  You are in some very good schools such as Penn and Columbia.  What makes Chicago your top pick over them by such a margin that you are stressing over this?  I am not being critical.  I am interested.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: yeacrew on February 05, 2007, 04:03:55 PM
Received Hold Letter from Chicago today - I feel lucky considering my LSAT is kind of low for them.

hey that's great, still a chance for you!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: johnromero on February 05, 2007, 05:11:33 PM
I did - called this morning and asked to speak to Michael Matchin (I think that was his name - left me the VM).  He said he was calling to give me an acceptance - woohoo!  8 down, 3 to go!  What a great way to start the week :)

Congrats!!!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 05, 2007, 05:12:36 PM
Anyone try calling the office back today, who missed the call Friday?  I can't get through, but I want actual confirmation that I got in!

I did - called this morning and asked to speak to Michael Matchin (I think that was his name - left me the VM).  He said he was calling to give me an acceptance - woohoo!  8 down, 3 to go!  What a great way to start the week :)

Michael Machen, and he's awesome.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: prajna on February 05, 2007, 05:20:30 PM
prajna:  You are in some very good schools such as Penn and Columbia.  What makes Chicago your top pick over them by such a margin that you are stressing over this?  I am not being critical.  I am interested.

oh, mainly for the common reasons why chicago has a fairly loyal following: smaller class size, more academic focus, students actually loving the law instead of just seeing it as a stepping stone into biglaw, more options after graduation, good faculty...

it is freezing cold where i am now (weather.com says it feels like 1 degree) and i'm not liking it so that's going to be an issue with chicago. also the neighborhood. but then again, penn and columbia aren't exactly lovely from what i hear either.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: pea27 on February 05, 2007, 05:30:57 PM
i got put on hold at chicago today.  do i have a shot in hell of eventually getting in?  if i write the extra essays, etc.?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 05:37:39 PM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on February 05, 2007, 05:44:57 PM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

 >:( >:( >:(

OK... you'll get in, just later in the cycle. On the other hand, if we both get into CLS... (someone troll please!)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 05:46:14 PM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

 >:( >:( >:(

OK... you'll get in, just later in the cycle. On the other hand, if we both get into CLS... (someone troll please!)

I'm miffed.  I don't really know what to think. 

If I hadn't gotten the T-Stock email, I'd be even more worried right now.  I don't know.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: johnromero on February 05, 2007, 05:48:51 PM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

Sorry to hear that. I guess they must've found out about your Harvard interview.

(Sorta off topic, but both Chicago and Columbia seem to be deferring a lot of HYS admits this year. Did the same thing happen to the same degree last year, or are the two Cs being more cautious this year about whom they admit?)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 05:50:30 PM
Called back today, left a VM with Ann Perry (who called me on Fri.), she called back and left a VM while I was in class asking me to call back, and then I called back (again) and couldn't get through, so I left another VM, and she called me back, and I'm officially in! Whew!


And Brito, I'm SO surprised and sad!!!   :(

Thank you.  I'm really sad, too.  I know there's still hope, but well, it's the first setback I've encountered, and I'm not sure how to take it. 

The streak of invincibility that began with the T-Stock email on Friday night and lasted through a perfect debate tournament over the weekend is over.  I'm very tired.  I need a drink.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 06:16:46 PM
Called back today, left a VM with Ann Perry (who called me on Fri.), she called back and left a VM while I was in class asking me to call back, and then I called back (again) and couldn't get through, so I left another VM, and she called me back, and I'm officially in! Whew!


And Brito, I'm SO surprised and sad!!!   :(

Thank you.  I'm really sad, too.  I know there's still hope, but well, it's the first setback I've encountered, and I'm not sure how to take it. 

The streak of invincibility that began with the T-Stock email on Friday night and lasted through a perfect debate tournament over the weekend is over.  I'm very tired.  I need a drink.

But it's only a hold, not a rejection!  Your awesome cycle hasn't been ruined yet, I'm sure you'll get in soon :)

Awww, I really hope so.  I'm not sure what the problem is.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: johnromero on February 05, 2007, 06:19:02 PM
Awww, I really hope so.  I'm not sure what the problem is.

It's your top choice, right? I think they want confirmation... probably afraid you'll go somewhere else (H). I'm sure you'll get in after you send in a letter of continued interest.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 06:20:51 PM
Awww, I really hope so.  I'm not sure what the problem is.

It's your top choice, right? I think they want confirmation... probably afraid you'll go somewhere else (H). I'm sure you'll get in after you send in a letter of continued interest.

Well, it definitely was before this stunt, and it will be again once I calm down.

I really thought my LSAT was low enough to shield me from YP, and I hate to be arrogant enough to assume that's what's going on.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: FunkyzeitmitBruno on February 05, 2007, 06:35:10 PM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

Sorry to hear that. I guess they must've found out about your Harvard interview.

(Sorta off topic, but both Chicago and Columbia seem to be deferring a lot of HYS admits this year. Did the same thing happen to the same degree last year, or are the two Cs being more cautious this year about whom they admit?)

Looking at LSN from previous cycles, Chicago has had a rather idiosyncratic admissions process, probably due to their small class size and yield issues. I don't think they really care that much about soft factors but do look for a certain "fit" from the application. Columbia is more numbers (re LSAT) driven, but every year they have some weird deferrals/waitlists (ppl with 4.5+ index numbers, I'd like to include myself to that list for this year). My personal OPINION and I know there will be some disagreement on what I say next, is that Columbia, ever since they've had a new dean of admissions 2 years ago, have increased their LSAT requirements, begun to shun engineers and hard science ppl, and generally look for ppl with interesting personalities and experiences (perhaps to counteract their previous reputation for churning out robotic corporate lawyers...now they produce err... less robotic corporate lawyers!)   
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 06:40:52 PM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

Sorry to hear that. I guess they must've found out about your Harvard interview.

(Sorta off topic, but both Chicago and Columbia seem to be deferring a lot of HYS admits this year. Did the same thing happen to the same degree last year, or are the two Cs being more cautious this year about whom they admit?)

Looking at LSN from previous cycles, Chicago has had a rather idiosyncratic admissions process, probably due to their small class size and yield issues. I don't think they really care that much about soft factors but do look for a certain "fit" from the application.

I don't understand what about my application makes me not a good fit.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: johnromero on February 05, 2007, 06:53:32 PM
I don't understand what about my application makes me not a good fit.

Maybe they didn't think you were quite the Law and Econ type?

j/k... But really, who knows? It's something I wonder about a lot... how could members of the adcomm look at the limited information I've given them and decide whether or not I'm compatible with their school? They should at least interview if they're so worried about fit. Or ask specific questions to be addressed via short essays.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Beamrag on February 05, 2007, 07:12:46 PM
Dinged today, dated 2/2 as well. Oh well :( Not really surprised.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: LSAT Granddad on February 05, 2007, 08:05:27 PM
Sorry, Brito. But you will have an offer from Harvard, why should you care about Chicago any way. :D Cheer up.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 08:06:47 PM
Sorry, Brito. But you will have an offer from Harvard, why should you care about Chicago any way. :D Cheer up.

Because Chicago seems great, too!  I wanted to visit and see where I liked it best!  No one wants to be forced to choose Harvard.

And besides, I may still not get in at Harvard.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 05, 2007, 08:09:34 PM
Sorry, Brito. But you will have an offer from Harvard, why should you care about Chicago any way. :D Cheer up.

Because Chicago seems great, too!  I wanted to visit and see where I liked it best!  No one wants to be forced to choose Harvard.

And besides, I may still not get in at Harvard.

I think that sentence completely threw my mind for a loop!  :D

Supposedly she hasn't slept in a while.  We'll give her a break. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 08:10:15 PM
Sorry, Brito. But you will have an offer from Harvard, why should you care about Chicago any way. :D Cheer up.

Because Chicago seems great, too!  I wanted to visit and see where I liked it best!  No one wants to be forced to choose Harvard.

And besides, I may still not get in at Harvard.

I think that sentence completely threw my mind for a loop!  :D

Well, I'm being tongue-in-cheek.   ;D

And Hank is right.  I still haven't recovered from my weekend tournament.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: chitownluva on February 05, 2007, 08:12:44 PM
Brito I'm calling Michael Machen back tomorrow and I'm going to ask why such a charming person as yourself was mistakenly placed in the hold file.  I shall further tell him that if he doesn't rectify the situation immediately that he may lose two quality candidates and not just one!   >:(    He's got a lot of explaining to do!!!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 08:13:33 PM
Brito I'm calling Michael Machen back tomorrow and I'm going to ask why such a charming person as yourself was mistakenly placed in the hold file.  I shall further tell him that if he doesn't rectify the situation immediately that he may lose two quality candidates and not just one!   >:(    He's got a lot of explaining to do!!!

Aw, that's terribly sweet of you.   :D
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 05, 2007, 08:15:04 PM
Brito I'm calling Michael Machen back tomorrow and I'm going to ask why such a charming person as yourself was mistakenly placed in the hold file.  I shall further tell him that if he doesn't rectify the situation immediately that he may lose two quality candidates and not just one!   >:(    He's got a lot of explaining to do!!!

Aw, that's terribly sweet of you.   :D

Yes, a little too sweet...makes me think someone has been looking through my back posts.   >:(
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 08:16:06 PM
Brito I'm calling Michael Machen back tomorrow and I'm going to ask why such a charming person as yourself was mistakenly placed in the hold file.  I shall further tell him that if he doesn't rectify the situation immediately that he may lose two quality candidates and not just one!   >:(    He's got a lot of explaining to do!!!

Aw, that's terribly sweet of you.   :D

Yes, a little too sweet...makes me think someone has been looking through my back posts.   >:(

What do you mean?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: chitownluva on February 05, 2007, 08:17:39 PM
Don't worry Hank, I'm married.   :D    Brito's all yours if she'll have you!  

Mr. Machen clearly did not seize his opportunity to win your heart Britto.  Maybe he's just setting you up for a big surprise around Valentine's day or something...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 05, 2007, 08:18:43 PM
Brito I'm calling Michael Machen back tomorrow and I'm going to ask why such a charming person as yourself was mistakenly placed in the hold file.  I shall further tell him that if he doesn't rectify the situation immediately that he may lose two quality candidates and not just one!   >:(    He's got a lot of explaining to do!!!

Aw, that's terribly sweet of you.   :D

Yes, a little too sweet...makes me think someone has been looking through my back posts.   >:(

What do you mean?

Nothin'. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 05, 2007, 08:21:30 PM
Michael Machen is on facebook.  You should friend him.  Or at least poke him.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 08:22:18 PM
Michael Machen is on facebook.  You should friend him.  Or at least poke him.

That's an interesting idea...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 08:47:13 PM
And not to be a grammar Nazi, but shouldn't "well qualified" have a hyphen?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 05, 2007, 08:52:55 PM
And not to be a grammar Nazi, but shouldn't "well qualified" have a hyphen?

What is this in reference to?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 08:53:43 PM
And not to be a grammar Nazi, but shouldn't "well qualified" have a hyphen?

What is this in reference to?

A sentence in the hold letter.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Stuart on February 05, 2007, 08:54:27 PM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

That sucks!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 08:55:20 PM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

That sucks!

I'll be okay.  Unfortunately, I have all this tequila and nothing to mix it with.

Not that I'm a big drinker or anything, but you know how that goes.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 08:57:19 PM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

That sucks!

I'll be okay.  Unfortunately, I have all this tequila and nothing to mix it with.

Not that I'm a big drinker or anything, but you know how that goes.

Come to the Michigan ASW and I'll help you drink that tequila...

Aww, Shanny, thanks so much.  You are great.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 08:59:45 PM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

That sucks!

I'll be okay.  Unfortunately, I have all this tequila and nothing to mix it with.

Not that I'm a big drinker or anything, but you know how that goes.

Come to the Michigan ASW and I'll help you drink that tequila...

Aww, Shanny, thanks so much.  You are great.

Are you drunk already?! You sound like me when I'm drunk.

Nah, I don't think so.  I've had a coupla shots, but I can still type straight.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 05, 2007, 09:01:38 PM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

That sucks!

I'll be okay.  Unfortunately, I have all this tequila and nothing to mix it with.

Not that I'm a big drinker or anything, but you know how that goes.

I'll join you in spirit with a scotch.  I was hoping to write 1000 more words in my brief tonight.  So far, I've done nothing but send e-mails for about 4 hours.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Stuart on February 05, 2007, 09:10:07 PM
I'm scared to get the mail tomorrow.... if it hasn't been posted already (I'm sorry if it has), would somebody who got held mind typing or summarizing the hold letter? How hopeful did it sound? Anyway, just if it's no bother.

Stuart
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 09:10:29 PM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

That sucks!

I'll be okay.  Unfortunately, I have all this tequila and nothing to mix it with.

Not that I'm a big drinker or anything, but you know how that goes.

Come to the Michigan ASW and I'll help you drink that tequila...

Aww, Shanny, thanks so much.  You are great.

Are you drunk already?! You sound like me when I'm drunk.

Nah, I don't think so.  I've had a coupla shots, but I can still type straight.

Lol. Just be careful - you don't want to be too hungover in the morning in case T. Stock calls you then!

But seriously - are you coming to the Michigan ASW on March 8-9? That's when most of the other LSDer's are coming. Michigan > Virgina. Just truthin'.

That is very possible.  However, if T.Stock comes through for me, I might need to use that weekend to visit Harvard.  Harvard's ASW is the same weekend as my last regular debate tournament of the season.  I'm third in my league in season-long points right now, and by that time, I might be gunning for a higher spot.  My team is also shooting for #1, and I might need to be there for them.  That may seem like a silly reason to skip Harvard ASW (in case I get in--not assuming anything there), but I can visit anytime, and I wouldn't want to mess up the whole season over ASW, especially since I won't get to do this crap anymore once I get to law school.  (Yeah, I know there's moot court, but debate is special.  :D)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 09:15:27 PM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

That sucks!

I'll be okay.  Unfortunately, I have all this tequila and nothing to mix it with.

Not that I'm a big drinker or anything, but you know how that goes.

I'll join you in spirit with a scotch.  I was hoping to write 1000 more words in my brief tonight.  So far, I've done nothing but send e-mails for about 4 hours.

Pun intended?

You're making the right decision.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 09:16:28 PM

That is very possible.  However, if T.Stock comes through for me, I might need to use that weekend to visit Harvard.  Harvard's ASW is the same weekend as my last regular debate tournament of the season.  I'm third in my league in season-long points right now, and by that time, I might be gunning for a higher spot.  My team is also shooting for #1, and I might need to be there for them.  That may seem like a silly reason to skip Harvard ASW (in case I get in--not assuming anything there), but I can visit anytime, and I wouldn't want to mess up the whole season over ASW, especially since I won't get to do this crap anymore once I get to law school.  (Yeah, I know there's moot court, but debate is special.  :D)

I think that's completely understandable. BTW - I like how I've totally hijacked this thread to talk about other schools. But I'm a little miffed at Chicago at the moment, so I'm okay with it.

Oh yeah, it's fine. 

Also, I think Virginia is pretty great, and as long as they offer me more money, > Michigan.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 05, 2007, 09:23:47 PM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

That sucks!

I'll be okay.  Unfortunately, I have all this tequila and nothing to mix it with.

Not that I'm a big drinker or anything, but you know how that goes.

I'll join you in spirit with a scotch.  I was hoping to write 1000 more words in my brief tonight.  So far, I've done nothing but send e-mails for about 4 hours.

Pun intended?

You're making the right decision.

yeah, I basically can't wait until tomorrow.  High tea at the Four Seasons w/ Edmund Burke = the pinnacle of relaxation.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 09:25:36 PM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

That sucks!

I'll be okay.  Unfortunately, I have all this tequila and nothing to mix it with.

Not that I'm a big drinker or anything, but you know how that goes.

I'll join you in spirit with a scotch.  I was hoping to write 1000 more words in my brief tonight.  So far, I've done nothing but send e-mails for about 4 hours.

Pun intended?

You're making the right decision.

yeah, I basically can't wait until tomorrow.  High tea at the Four Seasons w/ Edmund Burke = the pinnacle of relaxation.

I heard he died a few years ago.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 05, 2007, 09:29:41 PM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

That sucks!

I'll be okay.  Unfortunately, I have all this tequila and nothing to mix it with.

Not that I'm a big drinker or anything, but you know how that goes.

I'll join you in spirit with a scotch.  I was hoping to write 1000 more words in my brief tonight.  So far, I've done nothing but send e-mails for about 4 hours.

Pun intended?

You're making the right decision.

yeah, I basically can't wait until tomorrow.  High tea at the Four Seasons w/ Edmund Burke = the pinnacle of relaxation.

I heard he died a few years ago.

We have a Facebook group dedicated to resurrecting him to be Prime Minister of America.  We basically hold the teas and hope he'll show up.  In the meantime, we sit around sipping champagne and feeling a bit awkward.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 09:31:30 PM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

That sucks!

I'll be okay.  Unfortunately, I have all this tequila and nothing to mix it with.

Not that I'm a big drinker or anything, but you know how that goes.

I'll join you in spirit with a scotch.  I was hoping to write 1000 more words in my brief tonight.  So far, I've done nothing but send e-mails for about 4 hours.

Pun intended?

You're making the right decision.

yeah, I basically can't wait until tomorrow.  High tea at the Four Seasons w/ Edmund Burke = the pinnacle of relaxation.

I heard he died a few years ago.

We have a Facebook group dedicated to resurrecting him to be Prime Minister of America.  We basically hold the teas and hope he'll show up.  In the meantime, we sit around sipping champagne and feeling a bit awkward.

I'm actually a member.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 05, 2007, 09:32:21 PM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

That sucks!

I'll be okay.  Unfortunately, I have all this tequila and nothing to mix it with.

Not that I'm a big drinker or anything, but you know how that goes.

I'll join you in spirit with a scotch.  I was hoping to write 1000 more words in my brief tonight.  So far, I've done nothing but send e-mails for about 4 hours.

Pun intended?

You're making the right decision.

yeah, I basically can't wait until tomorrow.  High tea at the Four Seasons w/ Edmund Burke = the pinnacle of relaxation.

I heard he died a few years ago.

We have a Facebook group dedicated to resurrecting him to be Prime Minister of America.  We basically hold the teas and hope he'll show up.  In the meantime, we sit around sipping champagne and feeling a bit awkward.

I'm actually a member.

So you are! You should appreciate our efforts then.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 05, 2007, 09:34:18 PM

So you are! You should appreciate our efforts then.

Of course I do!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on February 06, 2007, 04:53:59 AM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

I'm genuinely shocked and saddened to hear this.  Chicago is a little more unpredictable than Columbia and NYU, from what I've seen, but this was still quite unexpected.

Regrets.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 06, 2007, 05:31:21 AM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

I'm genuinely shocked and saddened to hear this.  Chicago is a little more unpredictable than Columbia and NYU, from what I've seen, but this was still quite unexpected.

Regrets.

Thank you, Mr. Troll.  I feel much better today.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: pikey on February 06, 2007, 05:36:42 AM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

I'm genuinely shocked and saddened to hear this.  Chicago is a little more unpredictable than Columbia and NYU, from what I've seen, but this was still quite unexpected.

Regrets.

Thank you, Mr. Troll.  I feel much better today.

Yeah Brito, thats sucks.  They don't know what they're missing.  Referring back to last night's convo, why can't you go to Harvard's April ASW and still come visit Mich?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: ILoveUncleJesse on February 06, 2007, 05:41:38 AM
Hey kids, I'm kind of in a panic here.  If I'm reading this right: I didn't get a call on Friday, so that means any mail I might get between now and NEXT Friday is sure to be bad news? But if I don't hear anything via mail, I might get a nice phone call next Friday?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: well eggy on February 06, 2007, 06:22:30 AM
Hey kids, I'm kind of in a panic here.  If I'm reading this right: I didn't get a call on Friday, so that means any mail I might get between now and NEXT Friday is sure to be bad news? But if I don't hear anything via mail, I might get a nice phone call next Friday?

Depends when you went complete.  I went complete 11/20.  And held by letter last night.  The essay and recommendation are already in the works.

Chicago looks to be making a run at getting on top of CCN.

EDIT: And I also got a rejection letter from NYU.  They were neatly stacked on top of each other.  Definitely the worst day in admissions cycle so far, and it still wasn't too bad.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: degrassi on February 06, 2007, 06:59:24 AM
ON HOLD! Got the letter last night! Damn.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: ILoveUncleJesse on February 06, 2007, 08:18:21 AM
Hey kids, I'm kind of in a panic here.  If I'm reading this right: I didn't get a call on Friday, so that means any mail I might get between now and NEXT Friday is sure to be bad news? But if I don't hear anything via mail, I might get a nice phone call next Friday?

Depends when you went complete.  I went complete 11/20.  And held by letter last night.  The essay and recommendation are already in the works.

Chicago looks to be making a run at getting on top of CCN.

EDIT: And I also got a rejection letter from NYU.  They were neatly stacked on top of each other.  Definitely the worst day in admissions cycle so far, and it still wasn't too bad.


I wasn't complete until mid December.  Think this means I still have hope of getting accepted without being "held" first?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: well eggy on February 06, 2007, 08:23:50 AM
Hey kids, I'm kind of in a panic here.  If I'm reading this right: I didn't get a call on Friday, so that means any mail I might get between now and NEXT Friday is sure to be bad news? But if I don't hear anything via mail, I might get a nice phone call next Friday?

Depends when you went complete.  I went complete 11/20.  And held by letter last night.  The essay and recommendation are already in the works.

Chicago looks to be making a run at getting on top of CCN.

EDIT: And I also got a rejection letter from NYU.  They were neatly stacked on top of each other.  Definitely the worst day in admissions cycle so far, and it still wasn't too bad.


I wasn't complete until mid December.  Think this means I still have hope of getting accepted without being "held" first?

It might.  I think it really just means you won't get a decision for a little while.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on February 06, 2007, 08:27:52 AM
Hey kids, I'm kind of in a panic here.  If I'm reading this right: I didn't get a call on Friday, so that means any mail I might get between now and NEXT Friday is sure to be bad news? But if I don't hear anything via mail, I might get a nice phone call next Friday?

Depends when you went complete.  I went complete 11/20.  And held by letter last night.  The essay and recommendation are already in the works.

Chicago looks to be making a run at getting on top of CCN.

EDIT: And I also got a rejection letter from NYU.  They were neatly stacked on top of each other.  Definitely the worst day in admissions cycle so far, and it still wasn't too bad.


I wasn't complete until mid December.  Think this means I still have hope of getting accepted without being "held" first?

It might.  I think it really just means you won't get a decision for a little while.

Based on who was accepted last Friday (everyone went complete in November), I'm assuming that in 2 Fridays, everyone in December will be notified (and hopefully us early January people!) of acceptances.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: ILoveUncleJesse on February 06, 2007, 08:29:10 AM
Hey kids, I'm kind of in a panic here.  If I'm reading this right: I didn't get a call on Friday, so that means any mail I might get between now and NEXT Friday is sure to be bad news? But if I don't hear anything via mail, I might get a nice phone call next Friday?

Depends when you went complete.  I went complete 11/20.  And held by letter last night.  The essay and recommendation are already in the works.

Chicago looks to be making a run at getting on top of CCN.

EDIT: And I also got a rejection letter from NYU.  They were neatly stacked on top of each other.  Definitely the worst day in admissions cycle so far, and it still wasn't too bad.


I wasn't complete until mid December.  Think this means I still have hope of getting accepted without being "held" first?

It might.  I think it really just means you won't get a decision for a little while.

Based on who was accepted last Friday (everyone went complete in November), I'm assuming that in 2 Fridays, everyone in December will be notified (and hopefully us early January people!) of acceptances.
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oh man, that's great news.  thanks for taking a little of the edge off!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Schruted on February 06, 2007, 08:37:45 AM
Based on who was accepted last Friday (everyone went complete in November), I'm assuming that in 2 Fridays, everyone in December will be notified (and hopefully us early January people!) of acceptances.

Be careful. Someone earlier in this thread (sorry, too lazy to find it) said that the 3rd batch of calls was 3 Fridays after the 2nd batch of calls. So don't cry if you don't get a call in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: ILoveUncleJesse on February 06, 2007, 08:43:56 AM
Based on who was accepted last Friday (everyone went complete in November), I'm assuming that in 2 Fridays, everyone in December will be notified (and hopefully us early January people!) of acceptances.

Be careful. Someone earlier in this thread (sorry, too lazy to find it) said that the 3rd batch of calls was 3 Fridays after the 2nd batch of calls. So don't cry if you don't get a call in 2 weeks.


actually that's even better.  i'll be visiting my boyfriend (who lives 800 miles away) next friday, and a lack of a call could have ruined the weekend. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on February 06, 2007, 09:04:03 AM
Based on who was accepted last Friday (everyone went complete in November), I'm assuming that in 2 Fridays, everyone in December will be notified (and hopefully us early January people!) of acceptances.

Be careful. Someone earlier in this thread (sorry, too lazy to find it) said that the 3rd batch of calls was 3 Fridays after the 2nd batch of calls. So don't cry if you don't get a call in 2 weeks.

Thanks...I'm not expecting anything for at least three weeks anyway based on last year's LSN charts
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Pugnacious on February 06, 2007, 09:14:23 AM
Received Hold Letter from Chicago today - I feel lucky considering my LSAT is kind of low for them.

Show them your 'tar pic.  How can they not love pugs?  Also, btw, I think PugAttack is one of the best names I've seen on LSN, period.  I hope Chicago recognizes your awesomeness, best of luck.

Haha thanks I'm considering it. Pugs are amazing.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 06, 2007, 09:33:02 AM
ON HOLD! Got the letter last night! Damn.

You too?  Maybe we are being YPwned.  Maybe this doesn't make you feel better, but the fact that it happened to you, too, makes me feel better.  :)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 06, 2007, 09:33:50 AM
I'm on hold at Chicago.  Quite a blow, really.

I'm genuinely shocked and saddened to hear this.  Chicago is a little more unpredictable than Columbia and NYU, from what I've seen, but this was still quite unexpected.

Regrets.

Thank you, Mr. Troll.  I feel much better today.

Yeah Brito, thats sucks.  They don't know what they're missing.  Referring back to last night's convo, why can't you go to Harvard's April ASW and still come visit Mich?

Oh, there's an April ASW?  Well, that solves all my problems--if I can just get into Harvard now!    :D
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Stuart on February 06, 2007, 10:26:00 AM
Chicago looks to be making a run at getting on top of CCN.

Well, I'm a huge Chicago fan, and think they should be top of CCN, but I'm not sure how they plan to make a run for the top by holding / turning down a large percentage of their numerically strongest applicants.... (?) I understand YP, but don't they believe they're good enough?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 06, 2007, 10:26:39 AM
Chicago looks to be making a run at getting on top of CCN.

Well, I'm a huge Chicago fan, and think they should be top of CCN, but I'm not sure how they plan to make a run for the top by holding / turning down a large percentage of their numerically strongest applicants.... (?) I understand YP, but don't they believe they're good enough?

Yeah, those are my thoughts, too.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 06, 2007, 10:45:17 AM
Chicago looks to be making a run at getting on top of CCN.

Well, I'm a huge Chicago fan, and think they should be top of CCN, but I'm not sure how they plan to make a run for the top by holding / turning down a large percentage of their numerically strongest applicants.... (?) I understand YP, but don't they believe they're good enough?

Yeah, those are my thoughts, too.

I know it is of little consolation, but Chicago's numbers are not holding it down below CCN.  Basically, we lose out on a hidden 12.5% of the USNews calculation based on student expenditures that isn't shown. The small LSAT differential is basically irrelevant because of how USNews handles LSAT calculations, though we do hurt a bit on GPA (which makes YPing someone with Brito's numbers a bad idea!!)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: well eggy on February 06, 2007, 11:03:07 AM
MTG:

Any insights (empirical, anecdotal, or otherwise) on the holds this year?  There seem to be a lot.  A glance at LSN shows only one person last year as Def/Accept.  Probably due to reporting error, but still...discouraging.

Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: degrassi on February 06, 2007, 11:22:12 AM
ON HOLD! Got the letter last night! Damn.

You too?  Maybe we are being YPwned.  Maybe this doesn't make you feel better, but the fact that it happened to you, too, makes me feel better.  :)

Yeah I can honestly say I don't get it. Two "holds" in one day for me, it was quite a setback. But I will live. I am going to withdraw; at the very least it gives you a teensy weensy bit of help and I am not interested in Chicago anyways.

Btw, is "deferred" the best option on LSN for this whole "on hold" notion? I guess so, seeing yours, so I will go make the change.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 06, 2007, 11:26:53 AM
ON HOLD! Got the letter last night! Damn.

You too?  Maybe we are being YPwned.  Maybe this doesn't make you feel better, but the fact that it happened to you, too, makes me feel better.  :)

Yeah I can honestly say I don't get it. Two "holds" in one day for me, it was quite a setback. But I will live. I am going to withdraw; at the very least it gives you a teensy weensy bit of help and I am not interested in Chicago anyways.

Btw, is "deferred" the best option on LSN for this whole "on hold" notion? I guess so, seeing yours, so I will go make the change.

I'll trade you my Columbia and Chicago acceptances for your Harvard acceptance!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 06, 2007, 11:37:19 AM
ON HOLD! Got the letter last night! Damn.

You too?  Maybe we are being YPwned.  Maybe this doesn't make you feel better, but the fact that it happened to you, too, makes me feel better.  :)

Yeah I can honestly say I don't get it. Two "holds" in one day for me, it was quite a setback. But I will live. I am going to withdraw; at the very least it gives you a teensy weensy bit of help and I am not interested in Chicago anyways.

Btw, is "deferred" the best option on LSN for this whole "on hold" notion? I guess so, seeing yours, so I will go make the change.

I'll trade you my Columbia and Chicago acceptances for your Harvard acceptance!

You might regret it if you end up with Harvard^2.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: degrassi on February 06, 2007, 11:39:01 AM
ON HOLD! Got the letter last night! Damn.

You too?  Maybe we are being YPwned.  Maybe this doesn't make you feel better, but the fact that it happened to you, too, makes me feel better.  :)

Yeah I can honestly say I don't get it. Two "holds" in one day for me, it was quite a setback. But I will live. I am going to withdraw; at the very least it gives you a teensy weensy bit of help and I am not interested in Chicago anyways.

Btw, is "deferred" the best option on LSN for this whole "on hold" notion? I guess so, seeing yours, so I will go make the change.

I'll trade you my Columbia and Chicago acceptances for your Harvard acceptance!

I honestly didn't want to go to Chicago, but if your Columbia acceptance came with any money I'd surely consider it. Although I am pretty upset with them right now and almost want to withdraw...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 06, 2007, 11:40:27 AM
MTG:

Any insights (empirical, anecdotal, or otherwise) on the holds this year?  There seem to be a lot.  A glance at LSN shows only one person last year as Def/Accept.  Probably due to reporting error, but still...discouraging.

Chicago always does a lot of holds.  They are YPing bitches.  Anecdotally, I have at least one friend here who went from deferred to accepted.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Pugnacious on February 06, 2007, 11:44:10 AM
MTG:

Any insights (empirical, anecdotal, or otherwise) on the holds this year?  There seem to be a lot.  A glance at LSN shows only one person last year as Def/Accept.  Probably due to reporting error, but still...discouraging.

Chicago always does a lot of holds.  They are YPing bitches.  Anecdotally, I have at least one friend here who went from deferred to accepted.

The whole "hold" thing might be YP for some, but not for all - my lsat is below their 25%ile i think.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 06, 2007, 11:45:12 AM
ON HOLD! Got the letter last night! Damn.

You too?  Maybe we are being YPwned.  Maybe this doesn't make you feel better, but the fact that it happened to you, too, makes me feel better.  :)

Yeah I can honestly say I don't get it. Two "holds" in one day for me, it was quite a setback. But I will live. I am going to withdraw; at the very least it gives you a teensy weensy bit of help and I am not interested in Chicago anyways.

Btw, is "deferred" the best option on LSN for this whole "on hold" notion? I guess so, seeing yours, so I will go make the change.

I'll trade you my Columbia and Chicago acceptances for your Harvard acceptance!

You might regret it if you end up with Harvard^2.

No--if that happened I would trade one of my Harvard acceptances to Mpark for her Chicago acceptance and then trade you Mpark's Chicago acceptance for schools to be named later.  
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: well eggy on February 06, 2007, 11:46:09 AM
MTG:

Any insights (empirical, anecdotal, or otherwise) on the holds this year?  There seem to be a lot.  A glance at LSN shows only one person last year as Def/Accept.  Probably due to reporting error, but still...discouraging.

Chicago always does a lot of holds.  They are YPing bitches.  Anecdotally, I have at least one friend here who went from deferred to accepted.

Don't think I was YP'ed.  I'll chalk it up to my reference to "Professor Posner" w/o specifying which one in a supplemental essay.  Zoiks.

Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 06, 2007, 11:47:03 AM
ON HOLD! Got the letter last night! Damn.

You too?  Maybe we are being YPwned.  Maybe this doesn't make you feel better, but the fact that it happened to you, too, makes me feel better.  :)

Yeah I can honestly say I don't get it. Two "holds" in one day for me, it was quite a setback. But I will live. I am going to withdraw; at the very least it gives you a teensy weensy bit of help and I am not interested in Chicago anyways.

Btw, is "deferred" the best option on LSN for this whole "on hold" notion? I guess so, seeing yours, so I will go make the change.

I'll trade you my Columbia and Chicago acceptances for your Harvard acceptance!

You might regret it if you end up with Harvard^2.

No--if that happened I would trade one of my Harvard acceptances to Mpark for her Chicago acceptance and then trade you Mpark's Chicago acceptance for schools to be named later. 

You are scared to admit it, but you want Michigan.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 06, 2007, 11:48:58 AM


You are scared to admit it, but you want Michigan.

With Darrow maybe--see if you can get Gengis to trade hers. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on February 06, 2007, 01:32:14 PM
ON HOLD! Got the letter last night! Damn.

You too?  Maybe we are being YPwned.  Maybe this doesn't make you feel better, but the fact that it happened to you, too, makes me feel better.  :)

Yeah I can honestly say I don't get it. Two "holds" in one day for me, it was quite a setback. But I will live. I am going to withdraw; at the very least it gives you a teensy weensy bit of help and I am not interested in Chicago anyways.

Btw, is "deferred" the best option on LSN for this whole "on hold" notion? I guess so, seeing yours, so I will go make the change.

I'll trade you my Columbia and Chicago acceptances for your Harvard acceptance!

You might regret it if you end up with Harvard^2.

I think they add, not multiply. That's a lot of Harvard to go around.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Brito on February 06, 2007, 01:40:35 PM
ON HOLD! Got the letter last night! Damn.

You too?  Maybe we are being YPwned.  Maybe this doesn't make you feel better, but the fact that it happened to you, too, makes me feel better.  :)

Yeah I can honestly say I don't get it. Two "holds" in one day for me, it was quite a setback. But I will live. I am going to withdraw; at the very least it gives you a teensy weensy bit of help and I am not interested in Chicago anyways.

Btw, is "deferred" the best option on LSN for this whole "on hold" notion? I guess so, seeing yours, so I will go make the change.

I'll trade you my Columbia and Chicago acceptances for your Harvard acceptance!

You might regret it if you end up with Harvard^2.

I think they add, not multiply. That's a lot of Harvard to go around.

Harvard multiplies.  I asked during the interview.  Toby Stock says it.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on February 06, 2007, 03:14:12 PM
This is for you, MTG... err, I mean TCOTG:

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Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: thatgirlanon on February 07, 2007, 02:36:39 PM
Just got notified of acceptance via e-mail.  Never got the acceptance phone call, but I'm out of the country.  Geez, could this be a mistake?  Did anyone else get this e-mail? 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 07, 2007, 08:25:56 PM
Just got notified of acceptance via e-mail.  Never got the acceptance phone call, but I'm out of the country.  Geez, could this be a mistake?  Did anyone else get this e-mail? 

They said in the phone call they would send out an email this week.  I got three emails today, all saying basically the same thing. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Denny Crane on February 07, 2007, 08:32:34 PM
Just got notified of acceptance via e-mail.  Never got the acceptance phone call, but I'm out of the country.  Geez, could this be a mistake?  Did anyone else get this e-mail? 

They said in the phone call they would send out an email this week.  I got three emails today, all saying basically the same thing. 

Ditto. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 07, 2007, 08:43:22 PM
So what did these three e-mails say once?  Just that you're in?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on February 09, 2007, 08:23:53 AM
bump because it's a friday and i'm holding out delusional hope that chicago will call today  ;D
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: LSAT Granddad on February 09, 2007, 08:47:43 AM
Is it true that Chicago only call at Fridays?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on February 09, 2007, 08:51:21 AM
Is it true that Chicago only call at Fridays?

Yep. There's a TGI Friday's right next to the law school. They all congregate there, drink mudslides and drunk dial people to decide who gets into the school.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: sillyberry on February 09, 2007, 09:32:19 AM
Is it true that Chicago only call at Fridays?

Yep. There's a TGI Friday's right next to the law school. They all congregate there, drink mudslides and drunk dial people to decide who gets into the school.

I thought my call sounded a little woozy...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: LSAT Granddad on February 11, 2007, 09:58:31 AM
Is it true that Chicago only call at Fridays?

Yep. There's a TGI Friday's right next to the law school. They all congregate there, drink mudslides and drunk dial people to decide who gets into the school.

I thought my call sounded a little woozy...
Hum, maybe I should go to the "Library" drinking and waiting for the call.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: akakakaka on February 12, 2007, 06:20:53 PM
Any thoughts on when we might see scholarship offers?  Last year's LSN shows a batch going out on 2/2 for the first round of admits (corresponding to this year's 1/19ers).  Hopefully soon!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on February 16, 2007, 08:21:21 AM
a bump for people like me...who are freaking out because it's been 2 weeks from the last acceptance calls and who haven't received a decision yet.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Schruted on February 16, 2007, 08:52:52 AM
It's probably not happening today. Next Friday (Feb 23).
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: krockband on February 16, 2007, 05:11:10 PM
So I take it no calls were made today?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: hereshopin on February 22, 2007, 03:06:09 PM
They didn't wait til friday, there's been 15-20 acceptances on LSN in the past 3 hours.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Schruted on February 22, 2007, 03:08:55 PM
They didn't wait til friday, there's been 15-20 acceptances on LSN in the past 3 hours.

Hmm... maybe there are so many acceptances to go around this time that they had to spread them over 2 days. Hopefully?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on February 22, 2007, 03:33:34 PM
They appear to be notifying people who went complete in December today. Last year, they did the December and January completions on the same day. Hopefully (for me at least) it was December today, January tomorrow
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on February 22, 2007, 03:36:49 PM
They appear to be notifying people who went complete in December today. Last year, they did the December and January completions on the same day. Hopefully (for me at least) it was December today, January tomorrow

From Miss Chanandler Bong's mouth to Chicago's ears.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: FunkyzeitmitBruno on February 22, 2007, 04:02:14 PM
They didn't wait til friday, there's been 15-20 acceptances on LSN in the past 3 hours.

So Chicago is that certain that their yield will be low? They sent out an email to all the admits last week with 395 recipients. Now another slew of acceptances.

Obviously, historical data would show that they shouldn't be worried about overenrollment but still. What if Chicago does a kickass job with their admitted student materials and weekend? Their normal entering class is about 200, what if 2/3 of the admitted 500 or so students decide to go to Chicago?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 22, 2007, 04:09:56 PM
They didn't wait til friday, there's been 15-20 acceptances on LSN in the past 3 hours.

So Chicago is that certain that their yield will be low? They sent out an email to all the admits last week with 395 recipients. Now another slew of acceptances.

Obviously, historical data would show that they shouldn't be worried about overenrollment but still. What if Chicago does a kickass job with their admitted student materials and weekend? Their normal entering class is about 200, what if 2/3 of the admitted 500 or so students decide to go to Chicago?

I think our yield has historically been something like 25%. We generally accept something like 800 students.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: jimfoolery on February 22, 2007, 04:36:06 PM
They appear to be notifying people who went complete in December today. Last year, they did the December and January completions on the same day. Hopefully (for me at least) it was December today, January tomorrow

I sure hope so.  Still, I'm not going to scrutinize today's LSN admits too closely for fear of seeing some late complete dates.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Senator on February 22, 2007, 04:38:19 PM
FWIW ...

Got a voicemail just before 5:00 CST from Dean Machen (not Ann Perry, like some others) saying that I should call back for good news about my application. I missed the call while I was in a class that did not let out until 6:00, so needless to say he was gone when  I called back, although I'm taking it as an acceptance.

I went complete on 12/8. Good luck to everyone . . .
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: prajna on February 22, 2007, 04:39:33 PM
just got a call at 7pm (YAY!), missed it and voicemail said to call back tomorrow, so i'm guessing they're stopping tonight.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: hereshopin on February 22, 2007, 04:40:14 PM
FWIW ...

Got a voicemail just before 5:00 CST from Dean Machen (not Ann Perry, like some others) saying that I should call back for good news about my application. I missed the call while I was in a class that did not let out until 6:00, so needless to say he was gone when  I called back, although I'm taking it as an acceptance.

I went complete on 12/8. Good luck to everyone . . .

I got the same phone call, missed it as well. wondering if it means something that the call was from dean machen.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Stuart on February 22, 2007, 05:03:46 PM
They appear to be notifying people who went complete in December today. Last year, they did the December and January completions on the same day. Hopefully (for me at least) it was December today, January tomorrow

I sure hope so.  Still, I'm not going to scrutinize today's LSN admits too closely for fear of seeing some late complete dates.

Al of the accepts on LSN are Dec. completes, extending all the way up to Dec. 21st. I'm with those who are hoping that Jan. completes get included in tomorrow's batch.

Good luck!

I'm with those who's quite forlorn that December is through and I got no call. *sigh*
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on February 22, 2007, 05:18:43 PM
They appear to be notifying people who went complete in December today. Last year, they did the December and January completions on the same day. Hopefully (for me at least) it was December today, January tomorrow

I sure hope so.  Still, I'm not going to scrutinize today's LSN admits too closely for fear of seeing some late complete dates.

Al of the accepts on LSN are Dec. completes, extending all the way up to Dec. 21st. I'm with those who are hoping that Jan. completes get included in tomorrow's batch.

Good luck!

I'm with those who's quite forlorn that December is through and I got no call. *sigh*

Don't fret too much...there's still tomorrow. Maybe you'll be the first call :)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: krockband on February 22, 2007, 05:32:56 PM
Got the call today, early afternoon. I went complete 2nd week of December. Really took me by surprise because a) today isn't Friday and b) I thought I was going to get deferred.

Now I'm going to go crazy trying to decide which LS I want to attend.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on February 22, 2007, 05:39:24 PM
They appear to be notifying people who went complete in December today. Last year, they did the December and January completions on the same day. Hopefully (for me at least) it was December today, January tomorrow

I sure hope so.  Still, I'm not going to scrutinize today's LSN admits too closely for fear of seeing some late complete dates.

Al of the accepts on LSN are Dec. completes, extending all the way up to Dec. 21st. I'm with those who are hoping that Jan. completes get included in tomorrow's batch.

Good luck!

I'm with those who's quite forlorn that December is through and I got no call. *sigh*

Me too.  Hope tomorrow will be good for both of us.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Denny Crane on February 22, 2007, 06:09:02 PM
FWIW ...

Got a voicemail just before 5:00 CST from Dean Machen (not Ann Perry, like some others) saying that I should call back for good news about my application. I missed the call while I was in a class that did not let out until 6:00, so needless to say he was gone when  I called back, although I'm taking it as an acceptance.

I went complete on 12/8. Good luck to everyone . . .

I got the same phone call, missed it as well. wondering if it means something that the call was from dean machen.

I believe he is in charge of financial aid and not a dean. They divide the calls equally so I doubt it means anything. My call was from Michael Machen.

My call was also from Michael Machen.  No need to worry about getting a call from him  ;)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Pugnacious on February 22, 2007, 07:00:06 PM
Got the call today, early afternoon. I went complete 2nd week of December. Really took me by surprise because a) today isn't Friday and b) I thought I was going to get deferred.

Now I'm going to go crazy trying to decide which LS I want to attend.

I wish I had that problem.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: jambob on February 23, 2007, 08:05:16 AM
Just in case anybody else was worried about not getting a call yesterday, they are still making some calls TODAY for December completes.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: hereshopin on February 23, 2007, 09:06:08 AM
Just got the callback from Michael Machen, he said they're just finishing up calling the last people who they didn't get in touch with yesterday, then they'll send out an email. Materials are already in the mail.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: berntie on February 23, 2007, 09:11:17 AM
Yup, I just got the phone call about an hour ago. I was starting to worry after all those phone calls were made yesterday! He said I'd get an e-mail confirmation this afternoon and material in the mail next week.  Also said that there is an admitted students event April 12-14 (I think), but I'll probably try to visit before that. So excited...
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on February 23, 2007, 09:24:29 AM
Just got the callback from Michael Machen, he said they're just finishing up calling the last people who they didn't get in touch with yesterday, then they'll send out an email. Materials are already in the mail.

Meaning they're probably just finishing up December today? Sorry...I've been freaking out about this for awhile now and am at the point where I want to know if I'm in or not. Application purgatory sucks, especially for Chicago, when you know it's not going to come "at any time."
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: jimfoolery on February 23, 2007, 10:43:27 AM
Just got the callback from Michael Machen, he said they're just finishing up calling the last people who they didn't get in touch with yesterday, then they'll send out an email. Materials are already in the mail.

Meaning they're probably just finishing up December today? Sorry...I've been freaking out about this for awhile now and am at the point where I want to know if I'm in or not. Application purgatory sucks, especially for Chicago, when you know it's not going to come "at any time."

Oh well.  Meet you back here in a couple weeks, Bing.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: krockband on February 23, 2007, 08:36:34 PM
I received the e-mail today.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Max Fischer on February 23, 2007, 09:35:53 PM
No call, but did get the acceptance email this afternoon.  (I was on the phone quite a bit Thursday evening; maybe that has something to do with it.)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 24, 2007, 11:51:15 AM
BTW, don't know if this has been posted over here, but someone on XO has reported getting a scholarship offer from Chicago. So they have apparently at least started to trickle out.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on February 24, 2007, 11:57:23 AM
Hey, MTG, you think this coming Friday or next for January completion decisions?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: polaremu on February 24, 2007, 12:07:36 PM
I just got a scholarship offer in the mail from chicago. $50,000 over three years.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 24, 2007, 12:12:41 PM
Hey, MTG, you think this coming Friday or next for January completion decisions?

This coming Thursday or Friday. The admissions office said they wanted be done with their main round of acceptances by March 1 or 2 (don't remember which).
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on February 24, 2007, 02:09:40 PM
I just got a scholarship offer in the mail from chicago. $50,000 over three years.

Yah me too. Details on LSN if anyone's interested.

Wow! Congrats to both of you!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: hereshopin on February 24, 2007, 02:36:24 PM
U Chi Wine Mess in nyc the night before i leave for spring break.

recipe for disaster.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: mufich on February 24, 2007, 08:01:58 PM
64K at Chicago, woohoo!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: berntie on February 24, 2007, 08:15:37 PM
Congrats to all of you who have received scholarships! I'm jealous!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: GTBUST on February 26, 2007, 08:17:55 AM
wow, thats nice.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: foolhardy on February 26, 2007, 08:39:16 AM
Has anyone who went Complete on January 12th or after heard back from Chicago yet?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 26, 2007, 09:47:40 AM
They're calling again this Thurs/Fri for January completes? Is that confirmed?

That's my guess based on what they said earlier. We're having an admissions committee meeting in about 30 minutes, so maybe I'll get more info.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: jimfoolery on February 26, 2007, 09:49:04 AM
We'll be expecting an update in 45 minutes. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: lyquidmyrrrh on February 26, 2007, 01:19:09 PM
I will be there too -- the boozing sounds like fun.  Anyway, I work just a couple blocks from GDC.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on February 26, 2007, 02:34:02 PM
So admissions committee meeting, they were a bit evasive on a specific day (PREVENTINGLEAKSPWN3D), but the impression I got was that this week will be the last week of phone calls for first round decisions.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: krockband on February 26, 2007, 05:36:44 PM
I can't attend any of the wine messes since I don't live remotely near any of them. :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on February 26, 2007, 05:39:38 PM
I can't attend any of the wine messes since I don't live remotely near any of them. :( :( :( :(

I know.  Nothing in Texas, MTG?  What gives?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: hereshopin on February 26, 2007, 07:00:46 PM
I'm going to the SF wine mess on March 7th. Anyone else?

I'm not going to turn down free booze, after all.

Am I the only person who's bothered slightly by the phrase 'wine mess'?

I swear I felt this way even before getting deferred at Chicago.

I'm not sure how professional it sounds, but I like the concept.

Well, I took it to mean the army/navy variety of mess, as in a group of folks hanging out and drinking or eating (in this case drinking), hence the being bothered.  If it were describing a bunch of law students getting sloppy drunk on wine, I would have enthusiastically endorsed it. 

I was operating under the assumption it would be the latter. damn.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: jimfoolery on March 01, 2007, 06:25:33 AM
Bump for the January completes' possible day of reckoning
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: vandy07 on March 01, 2007, 08:13:45 AM
Agreed. Bump.

Any thoughts on when the class may come in?  I made the mistake of visiting U oc C. last weekend before I had been accepted and I LOVED it! Now the waiting is even more painful.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: cassandrele on March 01, 2007, 08:18:54 AM
Are the last batch of round one acceptance calls being made today? Has anyone heard from the U of C this week yet?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: WINDITUP82 on March 01, 2007, 08:28:24 AM
Bump for the January completes' possible day of reckoning



Today is "THE" day for Jan completes?..... acceptance or rejections? :-\
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: ILoveUncleJesse on March 01, 2007, 08:34:10 AM
Bump for the January completes' possible day of reckoning



Today is "THE" day for Jan completes?..... acceptance or rejections? :-\

Probably today and tomorrow.  Last week they made calls Thurs and Fri to admits
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on March 01, 2007, 09:49:00 AM
I'm trying not to sit in front of my computer all day freaking out this week. Hopefully I get a call while I'm at the gym or someplace where I'm not thinking about it. I just know that everytime my phone rings for the next two days, I'm gonna jump out of my chair.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on March 01, 2007, 10:44:50 AM
Paging MTG... are they calling people today?

Don't know. My impression was that it would be either today or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on March 01, 2007, 01:38:21 PM
Looks like tomorrow. Crap, I'm getting my phone switched to my new place tomorrow. They'll probably call during the switch with my luck.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Dr. Raoul Duke on March 01, 2007, 02:38:11 PM
Damn.  Tomorrow, nervous time begins. 
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on March 01, 2007, 04:08:35 PM
Looks like tomorrow. Crap, I'm getting my phone switched to my new place tomorrow. They'll probably call during the switch with my luck.

Maybe you'll get to play phone tag with the admissions office on Monday like I did :) Of course, playing phone tag knowing that in all likelihood you're in definitely ups the fun  :D

I hope so. Phone tag can be fun!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: out like cow on March 01, 2007, 06:18:07 PM
Hi, I was curious, what does it mean when you say that the main round of acceptances are over by this Friday? Does that mean if I don't hear back tomorrow, I am probably not making the cut?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on March 01, 2007, 06:38:20 PM
Hi, I was curious, what does it mean when you say that the main round of acceptances are over by this Friday? Does that mean if I don't hear back tomorrow, I am probably not making the cut?

At our first admissions committee meeting, they said something along the lines of "We hope to have the main round of acceptances done by March 1 or 2" which is the genesis of all of this conversation. That is all I have, so there really isn't any way to interpret it beyond that.

Assuredly though, March 2 is not the deadline after which nobody will be admitted.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Quail! on March 01, 2007, 06:41:13 PM
Dear University of Chicago,

I know I have sub-par numbers for your incredible institution.  However, I do have some good experience and soft factors, and would be an asset to the diversity and intellect of your community.

This being said, I BEG OF YOU, waitlist me!

Love,

Me
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on March 02, 2007, 08:34:58 AM
Bumping in hopes that we all get calls today.

Also, I had a dream that my phone rang. I woke up and picked up my phone only to find out I had been dreaming. It was never even this bad with the LSAT.

ETA: 10 minutes ago, someone on LSN reported an acceptance call. I guess it's really happening  :o
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: vandy07 on March 02, 2007, 09:08:00 AM
Just got off the phone with Ann Perry! In!! :)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: protagon on March 02, 2007, 09:10:37 AM
So...it has begun.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Senator on March 02, 2007, 10:22:10 AM
Just got off the phone with Ann Perry! In!! :)

Congrats, Vandy! I knew the call would come!  ;)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on March 02, 2007, 12:35:54 PM
I was at the gym, trying not to think about how Chicago was calling today, and the phone rang while I was on the elliptical. Michael Machen must have thought I was being chased or something, because I got so excited I started pedaling faster!

woooooooohooo!!!!

and to appease your curious minds: 174/3.63 complete 1-8-07
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on March 02, 2007, 12:58:16 PM
I was at the gym, trying not to think about how Chicago was calling today, and the phone rang while I was on the elliptical. Michael Machen must have thought I was being chased or something, because I got so excited I started pedaling faster!

woooooooohooo!!!!

and to appease your curious minds: 174/3.63 complete 1-8-07

Welcome aboard!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on March 02, 2007, 12:59:22 PM
BTW, I must admit to being relieved that calls did indeed go out today. I was very, very worried that despite what I thought was an accurate relaying of what I heard at the AdCom meeting, calls wouldn't go out, and you would all hate me.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on March 02, 2007, 04:44:37 PM
No call. @#!*. What an awesome day. One deferral, one rejection, and one who-the-@#!*-knows?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: jimfoolery on March 02, 2007, 04:51:13 PM
Congrats to the admits.

No call here either, capping a similarly great day of two waitlists and one probably-a-f-ing-waitlist.  Now to get drunk and watch the Big Lebowski.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Quail! on March 02, 2007, 05:03:33 PM
No call here, though I wasn't really expecting one, especially after getting my app in as late as I did

*keeping fingers crossed for a waitlist*

sigh
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: The Dude on March 02, 2007, 05:19:58 PM
No call here either. So, was that it then? That was the last big hurrah for Chicago?

I sort of feel stupid for staring anxiously at my phone all day today...hah. :P
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Quail! on March 03, 2007, 12:08:20 AM
If they really are done accepting, I hope that they are quick to get out the ding letters so I can drink my disappointment away and get on with my life lol
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Quail! on March 03, 2007, 12:11:52 AM
If they really are done accepting, I hope that they are quick to get out the ding letters so I can drink my disappointment away and get on with my life lol

Aw I really hope you get in, I'm pulling for my #s twins/near-twins!

Thanks for the moral support!

Alas, I kept telling myself when I applied that unless someone really liked my soft factors I was looking at a rejection...and still I know it's gonna suck
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: stjobs on March 03, 2007, 12:24:42 AM
sabioderecho - a Chicago admit probably isn't that exciting at this point, is it? :) I have similar numbers but a weak resume, and went complete about three weeks after you. From last year's LSN stats I think Chicago may well be done, except for waitlist people.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Dr. Raoul Duke on March 03, 2007, 01:04:01 AM
sabioderecho - a Chicago admit probably isn't that exciting at this point, is it? :) I have similar numbers but a weak resume, and went complete about three weeks after you. From last year's LSN stats I think Chicago may well be done, except for waitlist people.

BLASPHEMY!!

I hope you're wrong.  For both our sakes.   :)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: stjobs on March 03, 2007, 09:39:31 AM
Shalashaska - great LSN name - obviously I would like to be wrong, but I doubt it. Your complete is early enough, though.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: hereshopin on March 03, 2007, 12:36:34 PM
Congrats to the admits.

No call here either, capping a similarly great day of two waitlists and one probably-a-f-ing-waitlist.  Now to get drunk and watch the Big Lebowski.

Sometimes you eat the bar, and, well, sometimes he eats you. :(
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: jimfoolery on March 04, 2007, 11:00:48 AM
Congrats to the admits.

No call here either, capping a similarly great day of two waitlists and one probably-a-f-ing-waitlist.  Now to get drunk and watch the Big Lebowski.

Sometimes you eat the bar, and, well, sometimes he eats you. :(

Well, I guess the bums will always lose.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: foolhardy on March 05, 2007, 08:35:10 AM
So, is everyone certain that all the first round acceptances were phoned in at the end of last week? Is there any other source of information for this other than Mind The Gap?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Chandler Bing on March 05, 2007, 09:24:52 AM
So, is everyone certain that all the first round acceptances were phoned in at the end of last week? Is there any other source of information for this other than Mind The Gap?

Based on the LSN data from the past 3 years, it doesn't seem like any straight acceptances go out after the first week of March. But that's pure speculation. MTG is the closest we have to a crystal ball.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on March 05, 2007, 09:32:07 AM
So, is everyone certain that all the first round acceptances were phoned in at the end of last week? Is there any other source of information for this other than Mind The Gap?

Based on the LSN data from the past 3 years, it doesn't seem like any straight acceptances go out after the first week of March. But that's pure speculation. MTG is the closest we have to a crystal ball.

I am torn between wanting to be right to maintain credibility and wanting to be wrong so that everyone else gets in.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: stjobs on March 05, 2007, 09:40:28 AM
So it's over, then? Why did they even bother to take my money if they fill up by mid-Jan  :P
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: foolhardy on March 05, 2007, 09:46:22 AM
So, is everyone certain that all the first round acceptances were phoned in at the end of last week? Is there any other source of information for this other than Mind The Gap?

Based on the LSN data from the past 3 years, it doesn't seem like any straight acceptances go out after the first week of March. But that's pure speculation. MTG is the closest we have to a crystal ball.

I am torn between wanting to be right to maintain credibility and wanting to be wrong so that everyone else gets in.

Why not give an answer with a percentage of certainty? I wouldn't fault you if you were wrong then, and I'd appreciate your thoughts on the matter.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Dr. Raoul Duke on March 05, 2007, 09:46:53 AM
So it's over, then? Why did they even bother to take my money if they fill up by mid-Jan  :P

If thats the case, then seriously.  Why even have your deadline as Feb. 1 when every year the class fills up by early January?  Nice way to solicit donations I guess.  :P

I guess at this point, even a waitlist or defferal would be an achievement.  Still holding out hope though....
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on March 05, 2007, 10:10:02 AM
Certainly, there are still more acceptances to come, even without deferrals. It's just that mass acceptances are probably over. They'll be more like Yale now. Or something.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on March 05, 2007, 10:15:02 AM
So, is everyone certain that all the first round acceptances were phoned in at the end of last week? Is there any other source of information for this other than Mind The Gap?

Based on the LSN data from the past 3 years, it doesn't seem like any straight acceptances go out after the first week of March. But that's pure speculation. MTG is the closest we have to a crystal ball.

I am torn between wanting to be right to maintain credibility and wanting to be wrong so that everyone else gets in.

Why not give an answer with a percentage of certainty? I wouldn't fault you if you were wrong then, and I'd appreciate your thoughts on the matter.

I'm about 90% certain that there isn't going to be another huge round of 200 phone call acceptances in a day.

I'm less sure on whether that means everyone gets WL/dinged from here on out, or if there will be some isolated acceptance phone calls.

If Chicago is a top choice, and you end up on the WL, just make sure to continue to express interest. A good number of people seem to get in off the WL.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: foolhardy on March 05, 2007, 10:16:56 AM
So, is everyone certain that all the first round acceptances were phoned in at the end of last week? Is there any other source of information for this other than Mind The Gap?

Based on the LSN data from the past 3 years, it doesn't seem like any straight acceptances go out after the first week of March. But that's pure speculation. MTG is the closest we have to a crystal ball.

I am torn between wanting to be right to maintain credibility and wanting to be wrong so that everyone else gets in.

Why not give an answer with a percentage of certainty? I wouldn't fault you if you were wrong then, and I'd appreciate your thoughts on the matter.

I'm about 90% certain that there isn't going to be another huge round of 200 phone call acceptances in a day.

I'm less sure on whether that means everyone gets WL/dinged from here on out, or if there will be some isolated acceptance phone calls.

If Chicago is a top choice, and you end up on the WL, just make sure to continue to express interest. A good number of people seem to get in off the WL.

Thanks MTG. Your updates are much appreciated.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: stjobs on March 05, 2007, 10:51:53 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on March 07, 2007, 04:56:56 PM
This got posted over in my taking questions thread. In case you don't have that thread tagged, I'll paste here:

Chicago is still trickling acceptances.

http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/display.php?user=zh (http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/display.php?user=zh)

I asked, he said that the date is accurate. It was via phone call.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Dr. Raoul Duke on March 07, 2007, 05:20:25 PM
This got posted over in my taking questions thread. In case you don't have that thread tagged, I'll paste here:

Chicago is still trickling acceptances.

http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/display.php?user=zh (http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/display.php?user=zh)

I asked, he said that the date is accurate. It was via phone call.

Thanks, MTG.  There is still hope  ;D
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on March 07, 2007, 05:36:37 PM
I've been "held." Anyone know when "held" people get their decisions by? Is there a set date by which they notify all held applicants? MTG, intel?

Unfortunately, like the interview process, I don't know much about holds.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 25, 2007, 01:01:54 AM
I've been "held." Anyone know when "held" people get their decisions by? Is there a set date by which they notify all held applicants? MTG, intel?

Unfortunately, like the interview process, I don't know much about holds.

Hah, subtle prestige whoring on the part of MTG.

Oh bugger. I forgot to go to the wine mess thing tonight. It started at 5:30 downtown near where I work, and now I'm all the way at home. Crap! Sounded like it would have been fun.

No chance at coming to Chicago?

 :'(

Tell me I haven't lost both you AND mpark!
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: Hank Rearden on March 25, 2007, 10:33:51 AM


She's not going to Chicago. We talked. 

Where have you lost mpark too? Didn't sound like she was going to choose Michigan over Chicago.

That's what I like to hear!

 ;D
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: krockband on March 25, 2007, 12:52:23 PM
She's not going to Chicago. We talked. 

Where have you lost mpark too? Didn't sound like she was going to choose Michigan over Chicago.

Where is she going?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: krockband on March 25, 2007, 02:21:42 PM
She's not going to Chicago. We talked. 

Where have you lost mpark too? Didn't sound like she was going to choose Michigan over Chicago.

Where is she going?

Where she=goaliechica?  She's going to Boalt.

Oh, I thought you meant mpark. So goalie, you're going to Boalt for sure 100%?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: 617 on March 26, 2007, 08:27:23 AM
The waitlists should be hitting mail boxes today. I've heard that they send out a bajillion WL's because their matriculation rate is so low. Heads up.

Just curious...where did you get this info?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on March 26, 2007, 07:47:08 PM
The waitlists should be hitting mail boxes today. I've heard that they send out a bajillion WL's because their matriculation rate is so low. Heads up.

Chong Li is as right as his record. WLed today. I don't know if this is common among other schools, but they offer consideration of deferred admission for 2008 or even 2009. Just seeing that made me begin to consider deferring for a year a reapplying everywhere next cycle, especially since I still don't know what I'll be doing this summer for cash. I could get a real job (shudder) for year.  :-\
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on March 26, 2007, 09:01:47 PM
The waitlists should be hitting mail boxes today. I've heard that they send out a bajillion WL's because their matriculation rate is so low. Heads up.

Chong Li is as right as his record. WLed today. I don't know if this is common among other schools, but they offer consideration of deferred admission for 2008 or even 2009. Just seeing that made me begin to consider deferring for a year a reapplying everywhere next cycle, especially since I still don't know what I'll be doing this summer for cash. I could get a real job (shudder) for year.  :-\

Oh, also, I realize this discussion's going on in multiple locations, but from the sound of things (meaning mainly from MTG and the other extremely helpful UC guys around here) Chicago doesn't treat its waitlist like a glorified rejection, so you shouldn't feel as disappointed as, say, I did when I was waitlisted at Berkeley.

From what I saw last year, this is correct. I remember a number of people getting in of the WL last year.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on March 26, 2007, 09:33:14 PM
The waitlists should be hitting mail boxes today. I've heard that they send out a bajillion WL's because their matriculation rate is so low. Heads up.

Chong Li is as right as his record. WLed today. I don't know if this is common among other schools, but they offer consideration of deferred admission for 2008 or even 2009. Just seeing that made me begin to consider deferring for a year a reapplying everywhere next cycle, especially since I still don't know what I'll be doing this summer for cash. I could get a real job (shudder) for year.  :-\

Oh, also, I realize this discussion's going on in multiple locations, but from the sound of things (meaning mainly from MTG and the other extremely helpful UC guys around here) Chicago doesn't treat its waitlist like a glorified rejection, so you shouldn't feel as disappointed as, say, I did when I was waitlisted at Berkeley.

From what I saw last year, this is correct. I remember a number of people getting in of the WL last year.

Any of them get money? Merit-based, I mean. I know this is highly unlikely. Also, how are they with need-based grants?
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: MindTheGap76 on March 26, 2007, 09:43:29 PM
The waitlists should be hitting mail boxes today. I've heard that they send out a bajillion WL's because their matriculation rate is so low. Heads up.

Chong Li is as right as his record. WLed today. I don't know if this is common among other schools, but they offer consideration of deferred admission for 2008 or even 2009. Just seeing that made me begin to consider deferring for a year a reapplying everywhere next cycle, especially since I still don't know what I'll be doing this summer for cash. I could get a real job (shudder) for year.  :-\

Oh, also, I realize this discussion's going on in multiple locations, but from the sound of things (meaning mainly from MTG and the other extremely helpful UC guys around here) Chicago doesn't treat its waitlist like a glorified rejection, so you shouldn't feel as disappointed as, say, I did when I was waitlisted at Berkeley.

From what I saw last year, this is correct. I remember a number of people getting in of the WL last year.

Any of them get money? Merit-based, I mean. I know this is highly unlikely. Also, how are they with need-based grants?

I don't remember any of them getting merit-based money, and I unfortunately don't know anything about need-based grants.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: hmm on March 27, 2007, 08:48:02 AM
The waitlists should be hitting mail boxes today. I've heard that they send out a bajillion WL's because their matriculation rate is so low. Heads up.

Chong Li is as right as his record. WLed today. I don't know if this is common among other schools, but they offer consideration of deferred admission for 2008 or even 2009. Just seeing that made me begin to consider deferring for a year a reapplying everywhere next cycle, especially since I still don't know what I'll be doing this summer for cash. I could get a real job (shudder) for year.  :-\

Does Chicago allow people to defer admission and simultaneously apply to other law schools? My impression was that most schools require you to pledge not to reapply to other schools as a condition of deferring your matriculation. Is Chicago different? (Just curious; I'm not actually in that position.)
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: EEtoJD on March 27, 2007, 08:50:37 AM
The waitlists should be hitting mail boxes today. I've heard that they send out a bajillion WL's because their matriculation rate is so low. Heads up.

Chong Li is as right as his record. WLed today. I don't know if this is common among other schools, but they offer consideration of deferred admission for 2008 or even 2009. Just seeing that made me begin to consider deferring for a year a reapplying everywhere next cycle, especially since I still don't know what I'll be doing this summer for cash. I could get a real job (shudder) for year.  :-\

Does Chicago allow people to defer admission and simultaneously apply to other law schools? My impression was that most schools require you to pledge not to reapply to other schools as a condition of deferring your matriculation. Is Chicago different? (Just curious; I'm not actually in that position.)

The deferral isn't a guaranteed admission, it's essentially reapplying very early for next cycle. So, yeah, you can still apply to other schools.
Title: Re: Chicago Countdown Thread
Post by: ILoveUncleJesse on March 29, 2007, 04:23:12 AM
The waitlists should be hitting mail boxes today. I've heard that they send out a bajillion WL's because their matriculation rate is so low. Heads up.

Chong Li is as right as his record. WLed today. I don't know if this is common among other schools, but they offer consideration of deferred admission for 2008 or even 2009. Just seeing that made me begin to consider deferring for a year a reapplying everywhere next cycle, especially since I still don't know what I'll be doing this summer for cash. I could get a real job (shudder) for year.  :-\

Does Chicago allow people to defer admission and simultaneously apply to other law schools? My impression was that most schools require you to pledge not to reapply to other schools as a condition of deferring your matriculation. Is Chicago different? (Just curious; I'm not actually in that position.)

The deferral isn't a guaranteed admission, it's essentially reapplying very early for next cycle. So, yeah, you can still apply to other schools.

No way.  From the admitted students binder: "If we grant your [deferral] request, you will have to withdraw your applications from all other law schools and not seek deferred admission elsewhere.  You also may not apply to other law schools while you are deferred."  And I'm pretty sure it IS a guaranteed admission.  If you've already been admitted, they're just letting you start in fall 08 or 09 instead of 07.