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 51 
 on: November 08, 2014, 09:49:26 PM 
Started by BvBPL - Last post by jonlevy
Sure, some of my best briefs have been inspired by others but I draw the line at asking the recipient to draft their own letter of recommendation.

 52 
 on: November 07, 2014, 11:58:32 PM 
Started by CanIMakeIt - Last post by Groundhog
Yep, what FL said.

 53 
 on: November 07, 2014, 11:05:10 PM 
Started by CanIMakeIt - Last post by Maintain FL 350
No, a fifth year won't make any difference.

The single biggest thing you can now do to increase your chances of getting accepted is to focus on the LSAT. An extra few points on the LSAT is worth more than all the internships in the universe.

 54 
 on: November 07, 2014, 11:02:39 PM 
Started by Mandy1994 - Last post by Maintain FL 350
What about the Bar?

Indeed. The above post pretty much answers the law school portion of your question, but what about the bar? The moral character application (at least here in CA) involves a FAR more thorough background check.

The law schools pretty much take you at your word that you haven't done anything wrong. The bar does not. They will check your records, contact people, and note discrepancies. Also, I seem to remember that some states will ask a catchall question, something like "Is there anything else that you feel you should disclose?"

Remember, the bar will compare your law schools apps and your bar app.

The general rule is disclose, disclose, disclose. The bar can be forgiving of previous mistakes, but not of attempts to cover them up. Actions which indicate dishonesty are taken VERY seriously.

Nor will they have much patience for excuses. Lot's of people have a tough time at home, and yet they manage to get through college without cheating. As a bar applicant you are asking to be entrusted with people's lives and livelihoods, and they want to know that you are mature and honest.

Are you required to disclose? I don't know, check with your state's bar.

 55 
 on: November 07, 2014, 07:35:33 PM 
Started by CanIMakeIt - Last post by CanIMakeIt
This may seem like an odd question because there are a lot of factors that go into making it into a good law program, but I still wanted to ask around.   I am a triple major (English Literature, Philosophy, and Political Science with a minor in Spanish) holding around a 3.9 and am the captain of a Division 1 Varsity sport.  I decided to take a fifth year to finish out my undergraduate degrees because I had to sit out a season and wanted to continue playing.  Is taking the fifth year going to hurt me when it comes to applying to law school?  Also, is there anything else I should be doing to diversify my portfolio? I currently have a writing internship with an online magazine and plan to look into more relevant internships for next year/next summer.  Thanks.

 56 
 on: November 07, 2014, 06:31:19 PM 
Started by BvBPL - Last post by Groundhog
I can only imagine their briefs are all copy and paste jobs.

Hey, some of us in a production environment make our living that way...no point in reinventing the wheel if I or another attorney has already written part of a brief addressing that exact issue with citations.

 57 
 on: November 07, 2014, 06:09:14 PM 
Started by BvBPL - Last post by jonlevy
By the way, the supervising attorney seems both ethically and legally challenged if they can't crap out a couple paragraphs in your favor on their own.  Guess the loser can;t even dictate into their IPad

 58 
 on: November 07, 2014, 06:06:15 PM 
Started by BvBPL - Last post by jonlevy
Huh?  They just opened the candy jar and you don't want any?  Write a glowing review. As for the lazy supervising attorney shame on them.  I can only imagine their briefs are all copy and paste jobs.

 59 
 on: November 07, 2014, 01:49:39 PM 
Started by LegalEagle101 - Last post by I.M.D.Law
Hispanic is "self identifying" but FYI it you don't look and sound Hispanic, don't do use it
the "I'm blonde and sound valley girl but I'm Hispanic because my granma's maiden name was sanchez" is frowned upon
but far too often abused anyways
ginger "Hispanics"................with british accents.........seen it, more than once.

????

I'm sure you aren't suggesting that race is strictly (or significantly) tied to physical appearance and accents? Hispanics all look and sound very different. There are hispanics that are white with freckles and red hair (yes - "ginger" hispanics as you put it. South America has a lot of hispanics that "look" like this.). There are hispanics that are black skinned with black hair. There are hispanics that speak better english than most Americans. There are hispanics that can hardly be understood.

The whole point of URM - and diversity in general - is to offset the imbalance of specific social groups that we, as a society, have historically and systematically suppressed. This historical suppression has gravely impacted social groups' opportunities to pursue higher education and, as a result, legal studies and representation in the legal profession. The crucial point, therefore, is not of your skin color, the suburb you grew up in, or the way you pronounce "quesadilla." The crucial point is that of your cultural ancestry.

I can understand concern if, say, your entire ancestry is non-minority EXCEPT for that one great great grandfather that was himself only half (fill in URM). But aside from these type scenarios, your cultural background is your cultural background.
I am suggesting that societies perspective of it is
URM doesn't list "ginger" as an option for  a reason

Compare and contrast may help here to bring clarity. If you are a White South African you are "legally" "African" but if you apply for the "African American" status you will get people screaming from the rooftops in anger over it.

Russia and Israel are legally in "Asia" but if a white Russian jew applies as "Asian" people will get (albeit far less) upset also

That is what I am trying to get at

But yes, if you just happen to be albino, then you still are what you are despite being an Albino, I agree that much.

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 on: November 06, 2014, 08:02:28 PM 
Started by Mandy1994 - Last post by Miami88
1) Contact professor asap to get the inside scoop.

2) Contact the registrar asap to get the inside scoop.

3) Contact the state bar where she wants to practice in. What are their policies for things like this?

3) If that doesn't work, anonymously contact the law school for the inside scoop.

4) Last resort, I would use your best and honest discretion while erring on the side of caution. A 5 sentence paragraph describing the issue with the grade and the background of the situation while, at the same time, turning it into a positive thing is only going to show class and perseverance. I would be surprised if this would in any real way affect her chances in the long run. It might bump her down if she was right on the cusp of getting accepted, but, realistically, schools are more so concerned about your GPA and LSAT. Those two things = their ranking = amount of students they get = amount of tuition they get. The C&F is more so designed to filter out people that likely wouldn't be able to practice even if they graduated (again, lower employment stats = lower ranking = less students = less $). Further, C&F can show some minor issues in academic performance (will the student even graduate). Given the overall situation, I doubt there will be much of an issue UNLESS...

Unless the info is on the official transcript AND she does not disclose the info. This would likely be met with a big sad face followed by a rejection letter. No gold star.

So... if all options prove fruitless, disclose!

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