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Online Law Schools / Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« Last post by legalpractitioner on August 14, 2016, 08:18:33 AM »
Anyone considering Taft? ... I am not interested in being a lawyer but I have always wanted to study law. I

Over 20 years plus Taft has a good track record of graduates actually passing the state bar.  However since you say you do not want to be an attorney, might I suggest an accredited Masters in Legal Studies from Kaplan or other regionally accredited online provider.  It will be quicker and cheaper. If you still want a JD, then Concord is a good one because it is the only one regionally accredited and has more bells and whistles for its students.  Regionally accredited means that degree is accepted as a real graduate degree by other universities while the other law school's programs may or may not be.
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Kid, do what is best for you.

Heck go online unaccredited and live in CA.......who cares. No one really. Its your life.

Remember, if you get a contingency based client (even if working out of your garage) and that guy is the next bill gates or steve jobs who just needs someone to believe in him and help him out...........$$$$$$$$$$$$$


Or be scared and work at burger king like most junior college graduates


Either way.......Make sure to sit the LSAT.
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Online Law Schools / Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« Last post by Kobayashi Maru on August 13, 2016, 10:43:10 PM »
Anyone considering Taft?  I was looking at American International School of Law. Their website seems outdated but I talked to the CEO and they still seem to be in business and have an active account with the CA Secretary of State.  It's tuition is cheap. 

I am not interested in being a lawyer but I have always wanted to study law. I'm an older person (50) so there is no big career if I finish studying at an online school. I do not live in CA but I am from there and may move back next summer once my daughter goes off to college n
I'd use Concord/Kaplan
They are the ONLY online one that is REGIONALLY Accredited.
That means a few things- 1. You can get better finaid options
2. Better employer recognition
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You can take the patent bar without a JD, but you won't be a patent lawyer you'll be a patent agent. Patent lawyers have to get a JD and pass both the patent bar and general bar.

A biology degree would qualify you to become a patent lawyer, but it;s not quite as simple as saying "I have a STEM degree, therefore I can be a patent lawyer." It is a pretty competitive field, and most patent lawyers come into it with some level of experience already under their belts. For example, someone might work as a chemical engineer for five years then get a JD, that sort of thing.

There are very few JDs with STEM degrees who qualify, but there also aren't very many job openings in patent law. I think it sort of balances out in that way. Additionally, all of the normal rules apply: a STEM degree plus a JD from Stanford is going to be more employable than a STEM degree plus a JD from Whittier, etc. A biology degree is OK, but perhaps not quite as desirable as mechanical engineering, biotech engineering, chemical engineering etc. You get the point.

Lastly, don't go to law school unless you are OK with being a lawyer, period. Not a patent lawyer, but just a lawyer. The fact is, you may very well end up writing wills and defending DUIs if nobody is hiring patent lawyers when you graduate.
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Online Law Schools / Anybody thinking about Taft?
« Last post by theonlinelawstudent on August 13, 2016, 12:02:10 AM »
Anyone considering Taft?  I was looking at American International School of Law. Their website seems outdated but I talked to the CEO and they still seem to be in business and have an active account with the CA Secretary of State.  It's tuition is cheap. 

I am not interested in being a lawyer but I have always wanted to study law. I'm an older person (50) so there is no big career if I finish studying at an online school. I do not live in CA but I am from there and may move back next summer once my daughter goes off to college n
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You weren't even born yet for your avatars trial were you kid?............ ::)

The Bachelors is plenty for the patent bar. In fact you can take that BEFORE law school. Ironic since MOST lawyers can NEVER sit it (they have the wrong undergrad-non STEM)

I'd still recommend getting the JD, but just an FYI, its not required.

-Also, consider changing your "hand" name to include a reference to "learned hand" (a judge you will learn much about in the years to come) -Odds to the comedic value.
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Hey everyone,

I'm a sophomore at a bay area junior college looking to get into patent law down the road. My current plan is to transfer to a top biology program here in CA and get my bachelors in biology, then apply to law school. Will a b.s in bio and an education from a good law school be enough to make me competitive in the patent lawyer job market or should I be going for at least a masters degree first?
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Incoming 1Ls / Things to buy before school starts?
« Last post by bls 20 on August 11, 2016, 09:35:37 AM »
New incoming first years, hereís a list of things you probably want to buy for school compiled from threads asking the same question. Hopefully this list makes things easier instead of having to scroll through a ton of posts. Iíve definitely missed a few things, so feel free to comment.

Food:

[6 Quart Crock Pot / Slow Cooker](http://amzn.to/2aHJqVa). This will become your best friend once you learn a few simple recipes. Can make a ton of food that you can freeze and eat for the week. Iíd google 100 Easy slow cooker recipes for some ideas.

[Keurig / Coffee Maker] (http://amzn.to/2aoEotz). If you drink coffee than you probably already have one. If you donít drink coffee, well you probably are gonna start in school, so a Keurig is pretty fast and handy.


Furniture:

[Sturdy Ikea Desk] (http://amzn.to/2anhbLn)

[Desk Chair] (http://amzn.to/2aasiG0) Donít cheap out on this one.. your back will thank you.

[A good LED Desk lamp] (http://amzn.to/2aasq8s) with adjustable light settings and USB ports


Electronics / Misc:

[Second Monitor for you Laptop] (http://amzn.to/2anDuu7). Iíve linked the HP Pavilion IPS screen since thats the one I use and I havenít had any issues with it. Having the bigger real estate when studying at home really makes your life easier when watching recorded lectures / putting less of a strain on your eyes.

[Wireless Keyboard and mouse when using the monitor] (http://amzn.to/2aFL2N7). Self explanatory

[Bose Noise Cancelling Headphone] (http://amzn.to/2aoFm92). Cannot recommend these enough. There are obviously better sounding high end headphones, but in terms of comfort and actual noise cancellation the QC 25s are well worth the price. Probably good if you like quiet when studying. Love these things and can wear them for hours.

[Good reliable laser printer] (http://amzn.to/2aeuaZQ). If you like taking notes on printouts, definitely get a printer so you donít have to run to the library or find somewhere to print the 800 pages of slides youíre writing on.

[1 TB External Harddrive] (http://amzn.to/2anEGOe). Take it from someone who lost all of their files, pictures, and lecture notes last month. This thing can be an absolute life saver.

[Whiteboard] (http://amzn.to/2asRgf7). Added from comments

[Jot Pro Pen for your iPad / Tablet] (http://amzn.to/2aeu8kW). If you take notes on your iPad or tablet, your finger is not going to cut it. This has been the best stylus Iíve found for my iPad when it comes to taking quality notes.

[Zebra Highlighters] (http://amzn.to/2aQqLo3) Added from comments



Books you might need:

Also here are some good [FREE] (http://amzn.to/2apKerW) books that will come in handy

[BOOKS] (http://amzn.to/2ay48E4) -- Full List:

[LEEWS](http://amzn.to/2aidpl1) (Legal Essay Exam Writing System) -- $200 so might want to split it with someone

[Con Law: Chimerensky and the Nutshell] (http://amzn.to/2aIMZqH)

[Torts: E&E by Gannon] (http://amzn.to/2auFG39)

[Contracts: E&E by Blum] (http://amzn.to/2auGBAu)

[Civ Pro: E&E by Gannon] (http://amzn.to/2alwNcr)

[Criminal Law: Understanding Crim Law by Dressler] (http://amzn.to/2alwOx1)

[Property: Understanding Property Law by Sprinkling] (http://amzn.to/2aRD9Wp)

[Legal Writing I: Legal Writing in Plain English by Garner] (http://amzn.to/2alwEWC)

[Legal Writing II: Point Made by Guberman] (http://amzn.to/2aidIwh)

[LS Test Taking: Getting to Maybe] (http://amzn.to/2aREpsw)

[MBE Flashcards] (http://amzn.to/2av2TIx)

[1L of a Ride] (http://amzn.to/2aAgI2Y)

[Deal Struck] (http://amzn.to/2alQ8u8)
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Law School Admissions / Re: What's the highest ranked school I can get into
« Last post by Tmasters78 on August 10, 2016, 11:11:55 PM »
I was in a similar stance. I scored 2 points lower and got into 5 schools, but I had 4 years work experience, grad degree, and about a year of management experience plus an excellent LOR from a well known lawyer in the area. So I don't think you should have any issues. Some schools really really care...others could care less. It was weird....
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General Off-Topic Board / Clerks who dont even have college
« Last post by Kobayashi Maru on August 10, 2016, 09:13:33 PM »
.......just venting here...........hate that *&^%.

SO.....f-ing.........stupid............yet think they are in charge.......I wish they required at least a Bachelors Degree for that *&^%............@#!*.
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