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what company was your prep course with, and was it in person or online? Was it interactive?
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Hello everyone. As many of you reading this, I have a dream of going to a good law school. In the infancy of my pursuit of this dream, i boldly made the decision that I was to study my ass off, whatever it took, to score a 170 and go to NYU. Since then, I have taken a mediocre test prep course, read the LGB and LRB, and taken 15 timed tests and about 10 untimed tests. My first timed test was BEFORE reading the bibles but AFTER taking the course; it was a 160 right on the nose. To be honest, I was very happy with this score as a starter. I told myself that I was only 10 points away and closing that gap was doable.

Here is where things lose hope. As with many, I got a reality check. I took about 10 practice tests and not a single one of them was above 160. They all hovered just a couple points below, with one exceptionally bad test day going down even to a 154. For each one, i checked my answers and seemingly understood my mistakes. Yet, there was no improvement. I decided it was time to read the bibles. 5 more practice tests and my score was still a 160!!! It is almost as if the bibles and PTs had absolutely no effect. I felt like i was taking an IQ test. I took the June LSAT and got a 158. I was disheartened to say the least. On test day, I got 10 LG questions wrong because of time constraints, and i got 31 wrong total. At this point my only feasible strategy in my opinion would be to take a break from PTs and just hammer away at LG because of the high potential for improvement. Had i gotten those 10 LG questions right, my score would be just under mid 160s at least right??

At this point, I've given up my dream to go to nyu and i am willing to settle for Fordham. Whats so hard to get over is the absolute and complete lack of progress. I have a 3.62 GPA at Baruch College, here in Manhattan. Although my GPA is decent, when paired with a 158 I cannot even comfortably call Fordham my safety school. The last thing I want to do is apply with so much uncertainty about admission. More than anything at this point, i just want to break 160 by just a few points so I can safely expect to be granted admission.

For those reading, what are your experiences? What were your diagnostics and how did you improve? Any and all advice and comments are greatly appreciated! Thank you guys.
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I submitted to the CA Bar my Character and Fitness Application in March 2016 and am sitting for the July 2016 Bar in a couple of weeks. Today, I received a letter from my Moral Character Analyst who was asking for the additional information such as the following: police report, docket and a detailed narrative of my relationship with alcohol and drugs (including time of first use through present, including frequency of use, amounts consumed, and settings in which I generally consumed.
 
Due to a prior misdemeanor for having a fake ID to buy alcohol while I was under 21 and having a prior expunged felony for possession of a controlled substance, I had already turned in the police report and docket in my original application, but will be providing them again to make sure they have it.
 
However, I do not know what to do with the detailed narrative (probably because of bar prep taking over my thought process). I have been on the right path since then (about 6 years ago). I drink on social occasions and maybe a nice glass of wine with dinner from time to time, but thats it. Have had experimental marijuana use, but have not smoked it since undergrad and law school (it gives me the spins, nausea, and memory problems). What is the best way to put this into a respectable narrative to them?
"the best way to put this into a respectable narrative form".......nothing "unethical" with this..............

Just tell the truth. Give a timeline and when in doubt be OVER honest. Normally I tell clients "keep it simple stupid" (small simple answers) but in C&F cases........opposite. Its YOUR burden (not theirs) to meet to show you are a decent person who is capable of doing the job. People get tripped up over Character and forget about FITNESS (its both-its why senile saints get sent out to pasture and former gangbangers are allowed to become judges) 

Remember its your CURRENT C&F that matters most. Stress the fact that you learned and became better FOR the mistake.

"Good decisions come from experience........and experience comes from bad decisions........." (include that somehow)
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Well, nobody here can tell you what to write for a number of reasons. We don't know your situation, plus it's unethical.

Here's what I can say:

The key when dealing with the Bar is to be completely honest and transparent. They understand that you have had problems in the past, and they want to make sure that those problems are behind you. The also understand that people  with drug and alcohol problems are not always honest regarding the scale of the problem. They will be looking closely at what you tell them.

Be honest, don't make lame excuses, take responsibility.
wait..........HOW is it "unethical" to give advise on what he should say? That's 99.999% of what we do everyday.
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Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« Last post by Tommy Westphall on July 10, 2016, 01:22:15 PM »
You're not too bright. The line for the short bus is over there.
you......stole my joke...... >:(

-but the facts remain, hitler WAS an immigrant, so pretending that someone who is anti illegal immigration is hitler is foolish at best. (at best)
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Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« Last post by Maintain FL 350 on July 10, 2016, 10:40:16 AM »
You're not too bright. The line for the short bus is over there.
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Well, nobody here can tell you what to write for a number of reasons. We don't know your situation, plus it's unethical.

Here's what I can say:

The key when dealing with the Bar is to be completely honest and transparent. They understand that you have had problems in the past, and they want to make sure that those problems are behind you. The also understand that people  with drug and alcohol problems are not always honest regarding the scale of the problem. They will be looking closely at what you tell them.

Be honest, don't make lame excuses, take responsibility.
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I submitted to the bar my Character and Fitness Application and am sitting for the July 2016 Bar in a couple of weeks. Today, I received a letter from committee who was asking for the additional information: i.e. a detailed narrative of my relationship with alcohol and drugs (including time of first use through present, including frequency of use, amounts consumed, and settings in which I generally consumed.
 
How do I address this?
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Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« Last post by Tommy Westphall on July 10, 2016, 12:31:33 AM »
Reality Break.......Hitler was an immigrant. Get over it.

Born in one nation, ruled in another.

holy @#!* the retard train.
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Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« Last post by Tommy Westphall on July 10, 2016, 12:30:45 AM »
couldn't read past the cliché national socialist comment, Bernie was the only person with socialist in his agenda

I'm not implying that he's a socialist, I'm implying that he's a racist.
please don't be one of those idiots who says a thing straight up and then says "imply"........its painful
and yeah Nazi=national socialist (you knew that, don't fake retard-I call faking)

Hitler sure hated those Mexicans..........that was pure hitler............
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