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Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« Last post by cinnamon synonym on April 19, 2016, 02:50:32 PM »
Bernie should come within 8 points behind clinton in New York----effectively keeping his momentum strong and she still wont have enough pledged delegates to beat him.

More interesting is California where Bernie is poised to WIN.  That will be his ticket to go all the way to the convention.

So sad that this is happening to her again....back in 08 she was unable to go all the way...but Bernie WILL.
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Law School Admissions / Re: Dean's Certification
« Last post by Maintain FL 350 on April 19, 2016, 12:12:49 PM »
Just call and ask.
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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Brooklyn vs. Rutgers Newark
« Last post by Maintain FL 350 on April 19, 2016, 12:11:07 PM »
(As for me- I'd go with the money; Brooklyn doesn't offer enough advantage, and, TBH, I don't think your career plans are likely well-formed enough yet -"public interest of government work"- for you to pass that money up. Because if you're not going into a remunerative field, student debt can be a heckuva thing.)

Agreed.

I don't think the slight variations in reputation or geography are enough to justify an increased debt load. Both schools have very similar reputations, are located in roughly the same metro area, and will offer almost identical educations. The post-grad employment prospects (which you should look at, BTW) are also pretty similar.

I'd be inclined to take the cheapest degree.
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Law School Admissions / Dean's Certification
« Last post by JustAnotherApplicant on April 19, 2016, 08:40:33 AM »
Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows whether or not Belmont Law requires a Dean's Certification form prior to matriculation.  Thanks for any and all help!
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That said, for whatever reason, it does have a pretty good rep from those in the know, and it places very well outside of MO. It's kind of like Emory in that way - I never really think about it, but it's a very good law school that places well.

WUSL definitely has a good rep, and it's perennial place on USNWR's list probably imparts at least some degree of name recognition even if it's just "Oh yeah, I've heard of Wash U."

I guess what I mean (and admittedly my opinion is based on ambiguous stuff) is that Wash U isn't exactly what I'd call a nationally prestigious school. Good? Yes. Prestigious? Meh.

I'm sure that Wash U has a great rep in the Midwest, but outside of that region are doors being opened by a strong alumni network or by the school's inherent reputation? I really don't know. I suppose a CA equivalent would be UCLA/USC. Great local reps, but probably not going to land you a gig on Wall St. 

Other schools that are fairly close in rank (Cornell, Georgetown) have a certain panache that the Wash Us, Emorys, and Bostons of the world do not. Such is the ephemeral nature of rankings and prestige.

I think we are on the same page.

I might quibble, a little, regarding GULC. GULC is an example of a school whose name in USNWR and with laypeople is > than in actuality, but maybe that's just me (I cut it off at Cornell).

But yeah, WUSL is definitely with the Emor(ies) and UCLAs and BUs of the world. In terms of reputation. A solid, good school, but not (strictly speaking) a "national" one.
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That said, for whatever reason, it does have a pretty good rep from those in the know, and it places very well outside of MO. It's kind of like Emory in that way - I never really think about it, but it's a very good law school that places well.

WUSL definitely has a good rep, and it's perennial place on USNWR's list probably imparts at least some degree of name recognition even if it's just "Oh yeah, I've heard of Wash U."

I guess what I mean (and admittedly my opinion is based on ambiguous stuff) is that Wash U isn't exactly what I'd call a nationally prestigious school. Good? Yes. Prestigious? Meh.

I'm sure that Wash U has a great rep in the Midwest, but outside of that region are doors being opened by a strong alumni network or by the school's inherent reputation? I really don't know. I suppose a CA equivalent would be UCLA/USC. Great local reps, but probably not going to land you a gig on Wall St. 

Other schools that are fairly close in rank (Cornell, Georgetown) have a certain panache that the Wash Us, Emorys, and Bostons of the world do not. Such is the ephemeral nature of rankings and prestige. 
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I've always thought of WUSL as an outlier. It's USNWR ranking seems to outpace it's national reputation.

That's not to say it isn't a well respected school, it is definitely respected. But compared to other similarly situated law schools, it just doesn't seem to have the same immediately recognizable "name".

I'm not sure if I'm in agreement, or disagreement, with your conclusion, but I agree with your premise!

There is a mismatch between WUSL's USNWR ranking and their "general name value." Then again, I rank it from Cornell up (roughly T14, now T13) as being the only real "name" schools.

That said, for whatever reason, it does have a pretty good rep from those in the know, and it places very well outside of MO. It's kind of like Emory in that way - I never really think about it, but it's a very good law school that places well.
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I've always thought of WUSL as an outlier. It's USNWR ranking seems to outpace it's national reputation.

That's not to say it isn't a well respected school, it is definitely respected. But compared to other similarly situated law schools, it just doesn't seem to have the same immediately recognizable "name".
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Are you going for a JD or a Master's? Assuming you meant JD, I think the decision comes down to money and location. Both are good schools, both will offer almost identical educations (as will most law schools), and both will provide post-grad job opportunities that are mostly within their respective regions.

In other words, if you want to live in DC go for GW, and if you want to live in St. Louis go for Washington U. I don't know about the job prospects in St. Louis, but Wash U is the big dog in town so that's going to help. DC is a very competitive market, but the job market is much larger. Keep in mind that outside of their regions, each school will be viewed very similarly.

Has either school offered any money? That's a huge factor.

I agree with almost everything written here. Cost is the biggest factor.

That said, WUSL is a bit of an anomaly in terms of jobs- yes, it places great in St. Louis/MO. But (this is a little weird), it also places decently in NY, Illinois, and DC. GW is more regional (from NY to VA, but really DC!). I wouldn't call WUSL a "national" school, but it does have some diverse connections.
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Are you going for a JD or a Master's? Assuming you meant JD, I think the decision comes down to money and location. Both are good schools, both will offer almost identical educations (as will most law schools), and both will provide post-grad job opportunities that are mostly within their respective regions.

In other words, if you want to live in DC go for GW, and if you want to live in St. Louis go for Washington U. I don't know about the job prospects in St. Louis, but Wash U is the big dog in town so that's going to help. DC is a very competitive market, but the job market is much larger. Keep in mind that outside of their regions, each school will be viewed very similarly.

Has either school offered any money? That's a huge factor.
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