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I tend to agree, those who the nanny state is trying to protect are too stupid and arrogant to understand the odds of ever becoming a lawyer though distance learning.  I calculated the odds as 20-1 against when I undertook distance learning and knew that if I made it past the First Year Bar exam - the odds improve to 5-1 against.

People misuse words like "nannystate". Based on that math telling stores NOT to use lead paint in your cupcake frosting is "nannystate"

Anyone who spent even 30 minutes researching online law schools would stumble upon California State Bar pass statistics which tell most of the story.  If you want to pass the bar, an online school is the worst alternative. It really works only for those unable to attend a ABA or California bar approved law school.  Distance education on the other hands can work just fine in legal systems that do not require a bar exam as in England.
Again.........you mistake "us" for "they"........They are not.

PROTECT OUR RETARDS AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!
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I tend to agree, those who the nanny state is trying to protect are too stupid and arrogant to understand the odds of ever becoming a lawyer though distance learning.  I calculated the odds as 20-1 against when I undertook distance learning and knew that if I made it past the First Year Bar exam - the odds improve to 5-1 against.

People misuse words like "nannystate". Based on that math telling stores NOT to use lead paint in your cupcake frosting is "nannystate"

Anyone who spent even 30 minutes researching online law schools would stumble upon California State Bar pass statistics which tell most of the story.  If you want to pass the bar, an online school is the worst alternative. It really works only for those unable to attend a ABA or California bar approved law school.  Distance education on the other hands can work just fine in legal systems that do not require a bar exam as in England.
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Online Law Schools / Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« Last post by legalpractitioner on August 15, 2016, 01:45:37 PM »
Respectfully I have to disagree.  If the OP does not want to be an attorney but be learned in the law, a regionally accredited Masters in Legal Studies is the ticket. The material taught is different from law school in some respects. A fully accredited Masters degree will be useful either in further academic studies or jobwise whereas an unaccredited online law degree is pretty much useless except as a bar ticket. 

Secondly and perhaps more importantly, we have forgotten that a California online program requires the student to pass the First Year Bar Exam and travel to California before they can continue their studies.  That is one nasty exam and has about a 20% pass rate, so why subject yourself to that?
I had mentioned a few things, so I assume you are disagreeing with the EJD part (not the other law doctorates -which are MORE respected than the Masters, since......its the same thing........but higher up.....)

As to the bar requirements, those do not exist for EJD

I am just saying that someone interested in law who does not want to be lawyer should consider a Masters In Legal Studies.
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Hi! I'm an international student studying in the U.S. I recently received a disciplinary probation for causing a disturbance which required police attention. that was my charge. What basically happened that day was my girlfriend and I were in  my room. Put a little crudely, we got very loud and the RA who outside my room at that time,  dialled 911 thinking my girlfriend was getting assaulted. The police came and questioned both of us and left. My girlfriend and i thought that was it because the police report that followed said there was no evidence of sexual or relational violence and this is also stated in the university report. However, the university gave me disciplinary probation on the charges mentioned above. My question is : will this prevent me from getting into a top law school? I basically feel like my entire future is ruined because of this and no matter how many times my girlfriend and I explain to them, they refuse to accept this as a misunderstanding. Will this seriously affect my chances in law school admissions?
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Hi! I'm an international student studying in the U.S. I recently received a disciplinary probation for causing a disturbance which required police attention. that was my charge. What basically happened that day was my girlfriend and I were in  my room. Put a little crudely, we got very loud and the RA, who was outside my room at that moment, dialled 911 thinking my girlfriend was getting assaulted. The police came and questioned both of us and left. My girlfriend and i thought that was it because the police report that followed said there was no evidence of sexual or relational violence and this is also stated in the university report. However, the university gave me disciplinary probation on the charges mentioned above. My question is : will this prevent me from getting into a top law school? I basically feel like my entire future is ruined because of this and no matter how many times my girlfriend and I explain to them, they refuse to accept this as a misunderstanding. Will this seriously affect my chances in law school admissions?
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Online Law Schools / Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« Last post by Kobayashi Maru on August 15, 2016, 12:25:19 PM »
I'd choose the MLS over the Executive JD.  Non bar JDs have a long history of being dodgy even though the Concord one is not.  Nothing gets a lawyer more riled up then some non lawyer holding himself out as John Smith JD.  Don't know why that it is but John Smith LLM or John Smith LLB do not have the same negative effect.
Depends on if you want to work for a lawyer or not, if not, screw what they feel.think
I know a CPA with an EJD, he would just laugh at a redfaced lawyer

There is actually a reason - there are instances where holders of dubious JDs from diploma mills like Novus and the old LaSalle (not California registered distance learning law schools), disbarred attorneys, and bar exam failures have tried to dupe the public by calling themselves JDs which while technically correct does not entitle them to practice law.
Different Schools, thus anyone that stupid has no opinion of any value to care about to begin with.
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Online Law Schools / Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« Last post by Kobayashi Maru on August 15, 2016, 12:24:21 PM »
Respectfully I have to disagree.  If the OP does not want to be an attorney but be learned in the law, a regionally accredited Masters in Legal Studies is the ticket. The material taught is different from law school in some respects. A fully accredited Masters degree will be useful either in further academic studies or jobwise whereas an unaccredited online law degree is pretty much useless except as a bar ticket. 

Secondly and perhaps more importantly, we have forgotten that a California online program requires the student to pass the First Year Bar Exam and travel to California before they can continue their studies.  That is one nasty exam and has about a 20% pass rate, so why subject yourself to that?
I had mentioned a few things, so I assume you are disagreeing with the EJD part (not the other law doctorates -which are MORE respected than the Masters, since......its the same thing........but higher up.....)

As to the bar requirements, those do not exist for EJD
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Online Law Schools / Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« Last post by legalpractitioner on August 15, 2016, 12:22:38 PM »
Respectfully I have to disagree.  If the OP does not want to be an attorney but be learned in the law, a regionally accredited Masters in Legal Studies is the ticket. The material taught is different from law school in some respects. A fully accredited Masters degree will be useful either in further academic studies or jobwise whereas an unaccredited online law degree is pretty much useless except as a bar ticket. 

Secondly and perhaps more importantly, we have forgotten that a California online program requires the student to pass the First Year Bar Exam and travel to California before they can continue their studies.  That is one nasty exam and has about a 20% pass rate, so why subject yourself to that?
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Online Law Schools / Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« Last post by Maintain FL 350 on August 15, 2016, 09:05:42 AM »
OP:

If you just want to earn about the law for purposes of self enrichment and really have no plans to take the bar, I'd look for online or correspondence schools with an established track record (like Taft) and pick the cheapest one.

Master's programs in law are OK, but you'd probably learn more basic law in a JD program.

Personally, I would not spend the extra money to go to Concord. Regional accreditation is meaningless in law. The only accreditation that matters is ABA or CBE (or other state bar accreditation). If you're not using the degree to get a job, who cares? Go for the cheapest option.   
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Online Law Schools / Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« Last post by legalpractitioner on August 15, 2016, 08:32:30 AM »
I'd choose the MLS over the Executive JD.  Non bar JDs have a long history of being dodgy even though the Concord one is not.  Nothing gets a lawyer more riled up then some non lawyer holding himself out as John Smith JD.  Don't know why that it is but John Smith LLM or John Smith LLB do not have the same negative effect.
Depends on if you want to work for a lawyer or not, if not, screw what they feel.think
I know a CPA with an EJD, he would just laugh at a redfaced lawyer

There is actually a reason - there are instances where holders of dubious JDs from diploma mills like Novus and the old LaSalle (not California registered distance learning law schools), disbarred attorneys, and bar exam failures have tried to dupe the public by calling themselves JDs which while technically correct does not entitle them to practice law.
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