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 on: November 12, 2014, 08:03:39 PM 
Started by flhelms - Last post by Citylaw
Yea the LOR means very little. I am sure you must have had some connection with a professor in undergrad, and reach out to them and ask. Professors are happy to help their former students get into grad school, as it looks good for them. The LOR's are about the lowest consideration on an application it really all comes down to your LSAT/GPA, and if your on the cusp at certain schools they will look at your personal statement then LOR. Make the LOR and personal statement presentable, but don't enroll in a college course soley for the purpose of getting an LOR.

If you are going to go out of your way for an LOR intern, work, or volunteer at a law office, and see ask the attorney to write a LOR for you this will also expose you to what the life of a lawyer is like.

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 on: November 12, 2014, 06:36:15 PM 
Started by flhelms - Last post by Groundhog
Don't take another class; if you think there is an undergrad professor who might remember you or you have some graded work from that class to show him or her perhaps you can get a LOR from them.

Adcomms know that those who have been out of school more than a year or two likely won't have any academic LORs. It will not be much of factor in your admissions decisions.

Professional co-workers and retail supervisors are acceptable sources of LOR. I'd try to get the supervisors, even if the work wasn't particularly special, but you should also try to get a LOR from a professional co-worker who can talk about specific highlights and achievements in your work.

Don't get a LOR from a therapist.

Although there are some truly outstanding LORs, it is more a requirement to make sure that at least someone thinks you'd be a good candidate and to say so decently.

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 on: November 12, 2014, 01:45:27 PM 
Started by flhelms - Last post by Maintain FL 350
Don't stress about the LORs. They will likely have little (if any) impact on your chances for admission. LORs are one of those boxes you have to check, but they are of miniscule importance when compared to LSAT/GPA.

The vast majority of LORs will say the same thing: "So and so is a great guy, and will make a fine lawyer." Follow the rules, find acceptable people to write them, and don't stress. 

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 on: November 12, 2014, 11:24:44 AM 
Started by flhelms - Last post by flhelms
Hello all,
I'm having trouble with letters of recommendation. I've been out of undergrad for about 6 years so its been difficult. I work in customer service and I got my boss to write one of them but most of the schools I am planning on applying to require two. I've asked a former supervisor/training class teacher but I can't get her to return my emails anymore. Not sure if my retail jobs supervisors would do. Family friend won't work. I thought about asking others at my previous job. Will co-workers suffice or does it have to be a supervisor? I also thought about getting in touch with some of my college professors or perhaps my counselor (therapist). But I don't know if they would remember me. I thought about taking a class at a local community college just to get a professor's recommendation. Even though I am planning on retaking the LSAT in June and not planning on applying until next fall, I am stressing out about these letters of recommendation. I wanted to know if anyone had any advice on getting them.

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 on: November 12, 2014, 11:13:27 AM 
Started by CanIMakeIt - Last post by Citylaw
The fifth year will not hurt you, and I did the same thing in college wanted to play one more year. The only thing you should do is focus on taking the LSAT if you haven't already. I would encourage you to take the LSAT while in college just you have a score. You can always retake, but knocking that out of the way is really the hardest part of the application process, and many people put it off for years.

If law school is what you want then start get the process started take the February or July LSAT then start applying in October. I recommend anyone applying to law school attend an LSAC forum to obtain fee waivers, and get introduced to schools etc. http://www.lsac.org/jd/choosing-a-law-school/law-school-recruitment-forums . I saved about $2,000 on law school applications by attending this, and then obtained scholarship offers from schools I had no intention of attending and used those scholarships as leverage to obtain more scholarship money from the schools I wanted to attend.

I also think once you have the LSAT and are accepted into various schools, this article does a great job of explaining factors to consider when choosing a law school. http://www.legalmatch.com/choose-the-right-law-school.html

Good luck in your final season and on your pursuit of a legal education.

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 on: November 11, 2014, 09:44:06 PM 
Started by CanIMakeIt - Last post by I.M.D.Law
Yep, what I.M.D.Law said.
Yep, I like this trend. It seems like a fun meme

 37 
 on: November 11, 2014, 09:37:02 PM 
Started by BvBPL - Last post by I.M.D.Law
Well, reasonable minds can differ. It appears to be a somewhat common practice.
And it very well may be, but it still strikes me as something that should end in "and I approve of the this message" as the only part the signor is agreeing to

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 on: November 11, 2014, 01:59:17 PM 
Started by BvBPL - Last post by Citylaw
I agree I think it is perfectly reasonable to ask someone to write their own recommendation. In the real world you have to explain what you do to bosses, supervisors, clients, etc, you don't tell your boss to tell the client why your doing a good job you should be able to explain it.

I having the student sum up what it is they do that is so valuable is practice for the real world. I am sure the supervisor will edit, and maybe make some additions, but the student is asking for something and should have some framework of what they have to offer.

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 on: November 11, 2014, 01:56:47 PM 
Started by LegalEagle101 - Last post by Citylaw
That is all true, and I think various internet posters can offer good advice, but I would strongly recommend talking to people face to face. I do not think U.S. News is a credible source of information at all, it is a magazine trying to make money off it's opinion, but that is my opinion plenty of people think differently.

The primary purpose of my post is that what each individual want's from law school differs greatly. Many people want to move to a small town, many want to work in large firms, be D.A's, Public Defender's, so on and so on. Some people want to live in a big city others small cities, some people want to be close to their families others want to be as far away as possible. Some people want a competitive environment others want a more cooperative atmosphere, and the only person that can possibly evaluate all those factors is the individual. That is why I recommend any incoming student visit the campus, walk around the neighborhood, talk to everyone affiliated with the school directly, and gauge credibility.




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 on: November 11, 2014, 12:20:38 PM 
Started by LegalEagle101 - Last post by Groundhog
While everything citylaw has said is true, the administration, professors at schools and to a lesser extent, the students there, all have a vested interest in selling you on the school. Apparently law schools, the ABA, and US News can say whatever they want without much hit to credibility.

Here, for the most part, qualified posters are simply offering their honest opinion and advice. LSD has posters who are every kind of practicing attorney, as well as those who have worked in admissions. They helped me out a good deal when I was applying and now I'm here on the other end as an attorney.

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