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Nine Years of Discussion

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 on: July 23, 2015, 05:56:44 PM 
Started by functionial drunk - Last post by i VIII π
Glad to hear you are not living under a bridge brother.
Got faith in you.

 on: July 23, 2015, 04:39:37 PM 
Started by functionial drunk - Last post by functionial drunk
Hey guys sorry for the inactivity. I would like to bring a little closure to this thread.

So, as it turns out my whole meeting with the Dean of Academic Affairs and the Dean of Student Affairs was kind of a farce. They gave me the impression that very few students actually get "academically dismissed" and that you are normally required to take time off from school (at least a semester) if you are, in fact, "academically dismissed." After meeting with them, I spent the next few weeks trying to meet with ALL of my teachers from 1L year. Only three of my teachers were actually in town and willing to meet. I met with them and the consensus was that our school does not really flunk people out. If you put forth a reasonable effort by reading and going to class, the administration, in most cases, will not kick you out. They also reassured me that I am not required to take time off after "academic dismissal."

After meeting with my teachers, I emailed Student Affairs and inquired about the re-admission process. They promptly responded saying that I need to fill out a form and write a personal statement on why I should get readmitted. If you complete this two step process by July 1st then the re-admission committee will "consider" your application for the upcoming fall semester. Surely enough, around July 12th I get a letter from the re-admission committee saying: Congratulations, you have been readmitted for the upcoming fall semester! The only catch is that I have to maintain my GPA above a 69 for the remainder of law school or else I will be permanently dismissed.

Let me just say that I am truly humbled by the re-admissions committee decision to re-accept me. Not many people get second chances, and I know that I am lucky. I am going to spend this upcoming fall 24/7 in the library and visiting my teacher's office hours. Although I am currently a curb bottom feeder, I am going to strive to work my way back up to the median. There are no excuses for how poorly I did my 1L year. Classes begin August 24th but I am still currently working at this PI lawyer's office. The guy is a complete a**hole even though I have steadily improved under his tutelage and have successfully completed many projects for him. It has been a good experience nonetheless, and I have learned a lot about how litigation works and how much I do not want to be a PI lawyer. I am thoroughly looking forward to handing in my two weeks notice right before classes start.

 on: July 23, 2015, 02:29:47 PM 
Started by sisyphus99 - Last post by loki13
A few thoughts-

First, don't sweat the personal statement too much. I agonized over mine, and it was only later that I realized just how little (for the most part) the personal statement matters in the applications process.

Next, I agree with groundhog. Your personal statement doesn't really say anything about *you*. Instead, you set a scene, describe it (over-describe it, in fact), and then perfunctorily write at the end, "Yep, I learned a lot!" Note- you don't actually tie in what you learned, how it impacted you, how it changed you, and how what you learned or experienced in SERE really changed who you are as a person. All I know after reading this is that you were in the military and went through SERE training, which is likely indicated elsewhere in your application materials.

Take an example- your last line states that you have learned from past mistakes. What past mistakes? You didn't state that you made any mistakes. So what did you learn? What type of a person are you?

This is an interesting approach, but

 on: July 23, 2015, 01:35:47 PM 
Started by Trish94 - Last post by kissmyankle
I'm also looking!

 on: July 22, 2015, 11:20:21 PM 
Started by cinnamon synonym - Last post by Groundhog
Do you actually think that a severely weakened Hillary with no other viable candidates could lead to the first brokered convention since Adlai Stevenson in 1952 and that the nominee would be Gore? I'm not sure how to evaluate that, but I doubt it would be Gore if the convention were brokered.

 on: July 22, 2015, 11:05:08 PM 
Started by sisyphus99 - Last post by Groundhog
Hmm, in my opinion, the problem with personal statements like this is that although they highlight your service, they don't tell me much about you. They tell me a lot about the training you completed but it applies equally to everyone who has. It also repeats your resume.

I am not sure this is a good topic, at least addressed this way. Is your SERE training the most interesting that happened to you? I doubt that. Intense I do not doubt, although it probably pales in comparison to your real life combat tours.

What is it about yourself that you want to communicate to the admissions committees? The ones that stood out were often not because of the topic but because of how they were written to explain something about the author. It's really your one chance to be creative in the law school admissions process.

 on: July 22, 2015, 09:28:03 PM 
Started by cinnamon synonym - Last post by cinnamon synonym
Wow clinton tanking in swing states.  Better recheck the calculus as Obama would say and......

Better call Gore.

 on: July 22, 2015, 09:19:33 PM 
Started by sisyphus99 - Last post by sisyphus99
Hey all,

I just finished my PS and am looking for any critiques, advice, revisions that you would recommend. Thanks for your help!

   Military training often prepares an individual for physical rigors of combat. When the flash bang and smoke grenades popped and the camouflaged men in balaclavas entered our recently blockaded bus, I realized I was about to enter a new frontier of mental stress.
   Two hours before I found myself in this fabricated town of chaos, my fellow Airman and I had just completed the rigorous Survival and Evasion portion of the United States Air Force’s Combat Survival Training. Two weeks of classroom instruction had culminated in a cold, week-long exercise in the Cascade Mountains of Washington. For three days a Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) Specialist refined our skills of setting traps, finding edible plants, building shelter and fire and ensuring our basic survival needs. On the fourth day, our mountain laboratory turned hostile. Our SERE Instructor disappeared, and we were now in evasion mode. Following strict radio discipline, my element of six airmen and I received instructions to be extracted. Utilizing a map, compass and our recent training, we meticulously moved 30+ miles to an extraction zone over the next three days. The enemy searching for us was robust; helicopters, dogs and men shouting could be heard in the woods around us. Fortunately, our team of seven was never caught. After a week in the woods, we made it to our extraction zone, where friendly forces and a warm bus awaited us. The two-hour bus ride back to base was filled with anticipation for a hot shower and our first real meal in a week.
   To our surprise, instead of going back to base lodging, the bus turned into a walled-in, small Middle-Eastern themed town, that looked far departed from suburban Washington. White Toyota trucks raced up onto the Bus and cut it off as smoke grenades and flash bangs went off. Camoflaged men in balaclavas entered the bus, yelling, and grabbed an airman in the first seat, punching him in the face. The next moments were a blur, but involved a linen bag over my head, zip-ties on my wrists and being loaded into the bed of a pick-up truck to be whisked off to an unknown location.
   When the linen bag was ripped off of my head, I squinted, waiting for my eyes to adjust in the bright light. Across from me, was a man about 6’4” with cold blue eyes that I will never forget. In a sharp demanding voice, he asked my name. My hesitation bought me a punch to the face. The interrogation continued, as I received physical feedback on the approval or disapproval of my answers from my captor. Later I was thrown in a cell, and brought out to be randomly interrogated through the night.
   Five years later, the lessons from the training I received in the mountains of Washington and the SERE detention facility still remain with me. Many people have moments of self-discovery, when they realize their physical and mental limits. Military training provides many opportunities for self-discovery. For me, SERE was the pinnacle, pushing me far beyond what I thought my limits were. Mistakes came when pushed beyond those limits, but I learned to recover from them and excel. I have had a short but distinguished military career, graduating from training with distinguished honors, serving three combat tours in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria via Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Inherent Resolve and completing two master’s degrees in the interim. I have learned from past mistakes and today I feel poised and ready to be successful in Law School and whatever lies beyond.

 on: July 22, 2015, 09:27:46 AM 
Started by Burning Sands, Esq. - Last post by nopenottoday
Hi, I'm a complete newbie. It's sad that this forum has pretty much died, but I appreciate the archival info!

 on: July 22, 2015, 08:29:18 AM 
Started by willgabriel - Last post by frankferner82

I'm looking for input from anyone who may have insights regarding Wash U Law School in St Louis. I'm 43, a pastor in the United Methodist Church with a Masters degree in Divinity from Vanderbilt University (3.5) and fourteen years of experience serving as a Sr Pastor. My undergraduate degree was from the University of Kentucky (BA English) many years ago. I have also served as an USAF Officer and currently serve as a Navy Officer and Chaplain (Reserves) - 9 years total. Anyway, Wash U has waived my application fee and is strongly encouraging me to complete my application as they also have full scholarships still available for this fall. I do have to take the LSAT in June which they have told me is not too late at all for this fall. I am interested in using a Law degree to work with Veterans rights and access to care as we face a crisis in our country; I am also interested in public policy and working on legislation. As I have a young son in the St Louis area and there are several Veterans hospitals there, plus I am familiar with StL based on doing my drill with Marines near the airport, Wash U is my first choice. I get the impression they are interested in me as well.

So, what impressions do any of you have re Wash U and what I bring to the table? Thanks ahead of time.

Hi Will,

I went to WUSTL undergrad, so I can help a little. I'm also relatively familiar with the law school itself.

A few things off the bat:

-WUSTL encouraging you to apply for this fall, and promising scholarships, is not uncommon. I'm not the world's best applicant (171 LSAT) but they have called me, emailed me numerous times, etc. What I mean to say is - don't do it just because they're offering.

-I'd wait a year and review schools, if I were you. WUSTL is a top-20 program but everyone I know who went there was only so-so on it, if not a transfer/drop out. They are very liberal with money and acceptances, which is why it draws a lot of applicants. Plus, WUSTL undergrad is a strong school, with a lot of money, which helps.

Here's my bottom line on that: Law schools love people like you (assuming you can keep up in classwork, on the LSAT, etc). Your 'softs' are very strong. I'd look at Northwestern or even (if you do well enough) Columbia, etc.

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