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Online Law Schools / Re: taft law school
« Last post by cusc2011 on February 15, 2017, 04:01:30 PM »
Online legal education is not for everyone. I went to law school via online in my 40's while working full-time and obtained a foreign law degree and online LLM all in 45 months. It was right for me because I have a career and obligations and incurring 100k plus debt was not an option for me. I had no problems in my journey, I got to keep my six figure career and once I become a lawyer I won't have a problem transitioning over as a General Counsel if I decided to go that route. I never had my sites on working for anyone when I become a lawyer, so my route worked perfectly fine. I had no problems getting a bar ticket and will be taking the bar for the first time and once I pass I will have other jurisdictions available to me.
Online Law Schools / Re: taft law school
« Last post by Maintain FL 350 on February 14, 2017, 11:46:34 AM »

I don't think that anyone here is arguing that correspondence/online legal education is always a bad idea, I think we are simply trying to point out that for the vast majority of students a non-ABA degree will present risks and limitations that are very difficult to overcome.

As long as the prospective is fully aware of the obstacles, then more power to them. But the key is to be open and realistic in your assessments, rather than seeing what you want to see. 
Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« Last post by cinnamon synonym on February 14, 2017, 07:57:12 AM »

Hillarys first two batches of cookies did not turn out the way she liked.  She got very angry and has become bitter as she vents and rants on twitter....

Hillary....go get some nice eggs some good old brown sugar and try again....because this is your life now.

Hillary, might just be delusional and thinks she is still running for office.

Oh well its a fun train wreck to watch....

As we find out (Nate silver has confirmed) that it truly was a huge silent majority who came out to vote against Hillary Clinton and for radical change...

In the Midwest, for example, it wasn’t just Michigan and Wisconsin that became much redder..... So did Minnesota, Indiana, Missouri, North Dakota and South Dakota,....add PA, Michigan Wisconsin....

Silent majority voted!  Not for Clinton.
Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« Last post by cinnamon synonym on February 13, 2017, 08:13:13 AM »

Democrats need to focus on economic issues---leave "identity politics" or racist politics behind or trump will own another 4years.

Nobody but Hillary Clinton apologists believe in it.

Even an openly homosexual doesn't give a *&^% about who is whom when his family is out of work.

Tell it to the sea!!!!!
You will be out of politics for a long time.

No one cares that the president called Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas....maybe those with a good job care....nobody else.

They should leave  sexism behind them as well......why?

Because when Republican women are attacked it is NOW seen as sexist....even if you are attacking a point of view they have....cuts both ways.


We are all affected by the economy....
Online Law Schools / Re: taft law school
« Last post by loki13 on February 13, 2017, 08:01:44 AM »
Just wanted to say that on all 13 pages of this thread, you represented yourself and your alma mater well, and it helps folks like me who are closely judging Taft, with little more to go on than Orly.  I hope you keep up a presence on lawschooldiscussion. 


I will point this out for those reading the thread. There are various advantages to different "law school" solutions. The Taft "Distance Learning" solution is not a good one for the vast majority of people. Allow me to explain why-

If you choose to go the Taft route, then (IIRC), you have to pass the Baby Bar in California. That's your first possible point of failure. They don't break it down by school, but recent statistics show that Taft is in the category of schools that have an approximate 25% passage rate (first time), lower for repeaters. So, assuming you get past that (showing your aptitude), then you get to spend even more money to take the real California Bar. And if you do, then Taft has a terrible passage rate on the real Bar. (again, look this up- it's 20% or so). So you have a 25% chance of getting to take the Bar, and then a 20% chance of passing it. Those aren't good odds.

If you do overcome those odds, you will have graduated with a degree that doesn't mean a whole lot in the legal practice, and isn't very portable. Yes, you can practice in California, but you won't have any connections. And you will find it nearly impossible to practice anywhere else.

There may be particularly motivated people that can make Taft work to their advantage; but most of those people would be better off at a different school. The number of people that a) succeed at Taft, and b) can only do distance learning, and c) are able to successfully practice law after Taft are vanishingly small.

This isn't impossible. But if you want to actually practice law with your JD, there are almost always going to be better options.
Online Law Schools / Re: taft law school
« Last post by iryancooper on February 12, 2017, 10:37:26 PM »
After spending a good hour or more (and a full glass of Pinot Grigio) reading this entire thread (which I realize I just revived), I decided to actually take the time to register for an account on lawschooldiscussion JUST to reply to what seems like a largely derailed and hijacked thread about Taft (which LP continuously tried to bring back on point lol). 

I wanted to say that the last couple of pages had phrases like "just a place to argue" etc. 

As one of the few (only?) Taft alumni on this site, Legal Practitioner was almost completely UN-argumentative, though baited (trolled?) consistently.  As someone considering an online JD (just to add some knowledge to my other, completely separate, profession, clinical psychology), LP, I wanted to let you know that you have displayed a consistently grounded, pertinent, even humble(?) (not sure what word I'm looking for) demeanor on these thirteen pages.  You come off as as slightly older, mature, and to the point.  When other users said you changed your story (which having read all 13 pages back to back, I can assure that you absolutely didn't, you provided additional details) you remained collected.  As we say here in the south, your goat don't git easily. 

I don't mean to say "Wow, your demeanor is so leveled that you sold me on Taft," however I do mean to say that Taft is what is, and it fits a certain bill.  AND, I'm pleased to see an online presence that let's me know folks like you have found Taft quite able to fit your bill. 

Not only was the information you presented (quantitative) in this thread useful for Taft-considerers, but the quality of your online presence is extremely noted and appreciated.  For an attorney (and I know dozens) you don't seem to have a pathological (as a psych clinician, I use that term literally) need to argue, you aren't easily riled, and you are not overly wordy (opposite of this, my own post, and many of the other's on this thread).

Just wanted to say that on all 13 pages of this thread, you represented yourself and your alma mater well, and it helps folks like me who are closely judging Taft, with little more to go on than Orly.  I hope you keep up a presence on lawschooldiscussion. 

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« Last post by cinnamon synonym on February 10, 2017, 10:07:55 PM »
Voter fraud---Hillary and jills recount...really?  I thought the democratic party doesn't recognize those who vote early and often and there is no such thing as Santa Claus and voter fraud to the democratic party.
The FBIs two letters in October? Well, my question is didn't Hillary bring the FBI into the election when she operated her surreptitious private computer system?  But not really----that cake was baked when it was discovered that the FBI found her gross negligence but decided not to prosecute.

That's all....hillary lost it because she is a shill....always has been....always will
Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« Last post by cinnamon synonym on February 10, 2017, 09:56:42 PM »

So, some democrats read this....a lot of democrats read this😉

Two democrats who troll this thread....and I've caught than checking it out even if they don't have a rebuttal or it seems....a clue for to trumps win.

The enthusiasm was the biggest factor....trump had it...clinton not so much.....i mentioned that many months ago.....change...real change...not Obama change.

Secondly, Hillary Clinton has been lying as much as her husband over the years and has been busted for it time and time and time again....

This second point most democrats, especially the ones who voted for her are in DENIAL....some democrats.....particularly----Reagan democrats, or (catholic democrats) in Pennsylvania and Ohio and Iowa and Wisconsin and Michigan and working class black, green, gray, blue, red and white democrats throughout the Entire country also did not vote for Clinton.

Independents....another group I mentioned months ago also voted for trump....even progressive libertarians like myself went for trump over warmonger Clinton.

....the FBI criminal investigation into her pay to plays and her breaking laws regarding classified information took her out of the race....her fault.

....her comments about Catholics, her floupflopping and pandering on issues, and of course her "deplorables" comment sealed the deal.

Democrats are out of power and the number one reason most folks who voted against there former party affiliation is the near embracing RACIST...and seriously BIGOTED IDENTiTY politics with which they have aligned themselves....

We are Americans....not blacks whites, mesopoetamians, or spaniards.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: Why do we still have stenographers?
« Last post by dubyrog on February 08, 2017, 09:05:32 PM »
There are technologies where you can record everything said in court but the biggest advantage of having a stenographer in court is that they can ask for clarification of what was said and immediately review the transcript. It would be very hard to all that in the recording.
Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Chosing a School
« Last post by dubyrog on February 08, 2017, 08:57:08 PM »
You have to put in a lot of thought before selecting a good law school. You have to look into the faculty properly like the student-faculty ratio, their diversity with respect to race,ethnic background and gender. Another main important factor that you need to look into is whether they have well stocked library and comfortable study rooms. I am also in the hunt for a good law school and I have already shortlisted a few.
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