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 on: December 18, 2014, 04:12:59 PM 
Started by XdreaX08 - Last post by Maintain FL 350
Right you are, my mistake.

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 on: December 18, 2014, 02:14:11 PM 
Started by XdreaX08 - Last post by Groundhog
Nope, just that OP was considering Cal Western in SD, not USD, which has tougher admissions standards.

I know nothing of firm hiring as I'm a public sector attorney. My impression was that some SD firms hire locally, but it's more about connections to San Diego than checking off a SD school box.

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 on: December 18, 2014, 02:05:11 PM 
Started by XdreaX08 - Last post by Maintain FL 350
Do you mean that firms will hire from San Diego based on pedigree?

I can't really speak for the SD market, but in LA it carries no more weight than Loyola/Pepperdine, etc.

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 on: December 18, 2014, 01:52:35 PM 
Started by LegalEagle101 - Last post by Maintain FL 350
Yes, an applicant can write their essay about adverse circumstances or the fact that they are the first to go to college, etc. The admissions boost, however, is miniscule as compared to URM status. I think this has to do with the fact that URM enrollment is reported and used a rankings criterion, whereas socio-economic status is not.

Mind you, I'm not necessarily against AA. Certain groups are vastly underrepresented in the legal field. In my experience, however, the single most underrepresented group are the poor, regardless of race. 

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 on: December 18, 2014, 01:03:18 PM 
Started by jonlevy - Last post by Gunner.
I don't see how using Novus would be an infringement and the guy is a T Jeff. grad:

http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/Detail/288739
Not sure why you gave the link. I assumed he was honest about being licensed.
Name infringement? People sue for far less (and win) daily.

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 on: December 18, 2014, 01:02:18 PM 
Started by jonlevy - Last post by Gunner.
Using JD on a business card w/out a law license depends on the state and intent.

http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/tussle_over_titles/

Because jokers, disbarred attorneys, and wannabes often try the JD gambit, most lawyers stay away from listing the JD solely unless to disambiguate professional degrees they have as in addition to the JD:

http://pview.findlaw.com/view/4031944_1
All good points, but I was talking about the other extreme where you ARE licensed but not due to the JD and just happen to hold an unaccredited JD from a place like Novus.

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 on: December 18, 2014, 09:07:20 AM 
Started by jonlevy - Last post by jonlevy
Using JD on a business card w/out a law license depends on the state and intent.

http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/tussle_over_titles/

Because jokers, disbarred attorneys, and wannabes often try the JD gambit, most lawyers stay away from listing the JD solely unless to disambiguate professional degrees they have as in addition to the JD:

http://pview.findlaw.com/view/4031944_1


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 on: December 18, 2014, 09:00:05 AM 
Started by jonlevy - Last post by jonlevy
I don't see how using Novus would be an infringement and the guy is a T Jeff. grad:

http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/Detail/288739

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 on: December 18, 2014, 01:20:55 AM 
Started by jonlevy - Last post by Gunner.
http://novuslegal.com/

I thought you might get a kick out of this. He appears to be a real attorney (albeit an online grad) who is taking advantage of the Novus name.
Makes you wonder if Novus will sue him?

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 on: December 18, 2014, 01:13:22 AM 
Started by jonlevy - Last post by Gunner.
1.  What grads are lawyers - you going to believe Novus? Reading for the law? With who, their mother?  Not likely.

2.  A regionally accredited EJD is not a scam, it is similar a MA in Legal Studies. You can't become a lawyer based on it but it is a real masters degree. Maybe better than a MA in Religious Studies. On the other hand, an unaccredited EJD is usually worthless but could be OK for something if DETC accredited.

But I will go back to the main point - if no lawyers are associated with a law school, how can it be a law school?
Are we talking staff or students? I don't know who is on their staff, but I thought I heard (somewhere once) that lawyers or even retired judges were somehow involved in it.

As for students, I don't know, but people do read for the law. There likely is at least one out there somewhere, and no I don't know who or where. And I'm not defending them, just saying that the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence there Watson.

EVEN IF they had licensed lawyers I would sure hope they'd use an ABA licensed attorney with experience. Be in it to win it, not to worry about people who already don't like you not like you more.

Novus is a scam though, not denying that. If you use their degree in many states you can get arrested. So............its kind of like a novelty life experience degree. You can own it, just not use it.

Serious Academic thought and question here related to that. Let's say (for purely academic purposes) that someone did sit the bar exam and pass by reading the law. They also have a JD from Novus. If they put "JD" on their lawyer business card is it legal to do so? Or would it be a character and fitness issue?

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