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 on: May 21, 2015, 03:02:42 PM 
Started by opal - Last post by Citylaw
Have your lawyer contact the school and get the records.

From your story and mental health issues at the time you may not have articulated your position as clearly as you think.

If your attorney makes a formal request for the documents and it is denied then you probably have a nice lawsuit on your hands, but I imagine they will just hand it over.

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 on: May 21, 2015, 02:16:54 PM 
Started by opal - Last post by Maintain FL 350
Ok, it's good that you have a lawyer. Be completely honest with your lawyer and let them handle it.

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 on: May 21, 2015, 02:11:21 PM 
Started by opal - Last post by opal
No, there is no restraining order in place or unpaid tuition.  I made the requests via email and phone in February 2015 to several deans/administrators (since I wasn't sure who exactly was responsible for maintaining the records) and the Associate Dean of Student Conduct angrily emailed me back saying that he won't release the pertinent documentation to me.  He did not give a reason why, but told me not to contact his office again.  So in the interest of not rocking the boat, I have not been in touch with him since February 2015. 

I will need the records to submit to the state bar when I apply for C&F.  No pressing need for them right now.  My attorney (the firm that's charging me a $3,500 flat fee) will help me obtain the disciplinary records that the school is withholding from me in flagrant violation of federal law.

On an unrelated note, should I have my psychotherapist submit a letter of recommendation to the local law schools?  Perhaps an assurance from her will assuage their fears about admitting someone with a "dangerous" history.     

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 on: May 21, 2015, 02:04:52 PM 
Started by opal - Last post by Citylaw
I also find it very unlikely a restraining order on e-mail was issued and if that is the case. You can certainly ask the court to request your records from the school.  That seems like a very easy request.

Believe it or not the school has bigger things to worry about and it is possible a request was made and they forgot to get to it, which is a mistake on their part. I buy that happening, but this entire institution set on denying you some paperwork for yourself? Unlikely, if that is the case then hire a lawyer.

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 on: May 21, 2015, 01:56:52 PM 
Started by opal - Last post by Maintain FL 350
I emailed and called the Dean's office politely numerous times back in February 2015 and the Dean outright refused to send me the records that I am entitled to and furthermore told me not to contact his office again.

"Numerous times."

The first time you requested your records, what did the Dean actually say? What reason did the Dean provide? I seriously doubt if no reason at all was provided. If the Dean provided a legitimate reason, then numerous subsequent contacts may have been considered harassing.

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 on: May 21, 2015, 01:50:41 PM 
Started by opal - Last post by Maintain FL 350
I already politely requested all my educational records, and the school outright refused to release them to me.

Is that the whole story? You sent a polite request for you records, and in flagrant violation of federal law the school refused to comply based on personal animosity? What did their response actually say?

Do you owe unpaid tuition?

Is there a restraining order in effect which requires third party contacts?

I get the feeling that there are some missing pieces here. If indeed the school refused to turn over your records based on nothing more than bad feelings, then you need to talk to a lawyer.

BTW, the school can't have you charged or arrested based on nothing more than a letter that says "I would like to request my transcripts." That's not harassment. They can call the police, who will determine whether or not a threat/harassment occurred. If the communication is nothing more than a letter requesting transcripts, I don't see how that could be reasonably interpreted as harassment UNLESS there is a restraining order in place or the police have already advised you not to contact the school. Is that the case?

At this point, I think you should talk to a lawyer. Perhaps they can make the request on your behalf.

 

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 on: May 21, 2015, 01:46:27 PM 
Started by opal - Last post by opal
I'm not making excuses.  I emailed and called the Dean's office politely numerous times back in February 2015 and the Dean outright refused to send me the records that I am entitled to and furthermore told me not to contact his office again.  No use in continuing to heckle the school I want to ask favors from.

Yes, the school is not a D.A.'s office, but what's stopping them from calling to police to come arrest me for harassment? My criminal record is currently clean as a whistle and I would like to keep it that way.  I don't want to risk any more harm to my C&F record, which is why I am communicating to them thru my parents/treatment providers.  I'm walking on very thin ice at the moment.  I don't think you fully grasp that.   

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 on: May 21, 2015, 01:28:56 PM 
Started by opal - Last post by Citylaw
Ok. You will not be slapped with criminal charges as it is not a D.A's office, but if you want to make excuses that is your prerogative.

They will not press charges if you send an e-mail asking for your student file that you paid tuition for. 

If you want to write a pissed-off letter to the school, because your pissed off it is your life. If your ultimate goal is to actually continue your legal education then keep it simple and send an e-mail or call asking for your records.

Then work on an application to transfer or become a visiting student.

 


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 on: May 21, 2015, 12:57:23 PM 
Started by opal - Last post by opal
A gentle reminder will hurt.  If I ask the school again I'll be slapped with criminal charges for harassment and possibly arrested.  Don't want to risk that and further reduce my chances of passing C&F. 

I know that under FERPA I am entitled to my educational records, but if I fight the school on this, I will infuriate them and not get readmitted. 

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 on: May 21, 2015, 12:28:37 PM 
Started by opal - Last post by Citylaw
Ask again politely.

In the real legal world plenty of people forget things and gentle reminder never hurts.

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