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 on: Today at 03:15:16 PM 
Started by lopezst1 - Last post by Citylaw
Very few firms actually post actual rankings they like to say top law school, but actual rankings change drastically year by year.

Remember U.S news is a for profit unregulated magazine offering an opinion. There is no real basis to the ranking at all.

If you went to Harvard, Yale, Stanford then yes doors will open.

If you went to Mcgeorge, LMU, Pepperdine, Santa Clara nobody would really know the difference in fact I don't know what the difference is, but I work with lawyers from each of those schools routinely. Some are great, some are ok, others are awful.

The reality is whether you succeed as a lawyer has a lot more to do with the individual than the school they attended.

 on: Today at 01:15:12 PM 
Started by lopezst1 - Last post by silverdoe91
Are law school rankings really that useless and arbitrary? I see a lot of job postings online that specifically ask for applicants who went to a T14, T25 school, so maybe these law school graduates do have a lot more doors open for them. If you look at the Above The Law website, the statistics they've gathered show that more graduates from T14 schools get employed in the legal field rather than those from other schools (who might not be employed after law school at all!)

So, perhaps in the end paying $200k debt is worth it, so long as it actually gets you job in this terrible, terrible economy? As opposed to going to a school that's not highly ranked, paying less, but still having a considerable loan amount to pay off (i.e. $60,000) and not being able to get a job at all.

 on: Today at 11:17:08 AM 
Started by silverdoe91 - Last post by silverdoe91
If it weren't for this job, I would have, of course, started studying a long time ago. I was originally planning to take the June LSAT, because it would give me more leeway in terms of preparing for the exam, and retaking it if need be, plus organizing my applications for law school. But I had it put it on hold when I got this job, because I wanted to save up some money to do this in the first place. Now that I have enough money to do this, I am wondering if it's too late for me to start studying now. (If it is too late, quitting my job would be pointless.)

 on: Today at 11:13:22 AM 
Started by silverdoe91 - Last post by silverdoe91
I think it is also important to note that I am currently working full-time, so if I were to take the Septemeber LSAT and devote all my time to studying so that I could increase my score, that would require me to quit my job.

It is a temp job that is supposed to last eight months. I don't particularly like it, but I figure once this job is over (I have about four more months left) I will be free to take the LSAT in June, and devote all my time to studying for it. However, would mean waiting another year before I even applied to law school. I don't want to wait that long, but then again, I don't want to rush into things either.

 on: Today at 10:41:09 AM 
Started by silverdoe91 - Last post by silverdoe91
No, I was born in Uzbekistan.

 on: Today at 07:45:13 AM 
Started by boomboom - Last post by Miami88
OP has a full scholarship already at Ave Maria.

I misspoke, Citylaw is right... FIU and FSU both have about the same cost of attendance (assuming no or similar scholarships at both). They are each about $40k per year (20k for tuition and 20k for living).

assuming you are paying for your cost of living at all three places, you would save about $40k by staying at Ave Maria. That is not an insignificant number, but you need to figure out if FSU and FIU's benefits are worth it.

I agree with Citylaw, you shouldn't base your decision here solely on ranking. I mean, if everything was equal financially and you were going into this as a 1L and you could care less where you worked after and you had similarly strong vibes about each school, you could then use ranking as a good tie breaker. The reality is you would probably have a little easier time finding work coming out of FSU than Ave Maria in a general sense. However, those aren't your circumstances. I would transfer, again, if you have a strong desire to work in another schools specific region. If you want to work in Portland, however, each of these schools are going to be equally good and equally bad at helping you get a job there, so I would say go to the cheapest.

I guess what I'm saying is, we need more info. :)

 on: Today at 01:47:54 AM 
Started by silverdoe91 - Last post by Citylaw
Silverdoe absolutely e-mail plenty of lawyers love their job, but most of them don't anonymously post on the internet, but with my law degree I was also able to get a side job, which allows me to get paid for writing on this board and others.

However, I love my job as a City Attorney I get to do a lot of very exciting things and I am happy to explain all the great things you can do with a J.D.

 on: Today at 01:45:52 AM 
Started by boomboom - Last post by Citylaw
There is a lot to think about and one of the most important factors to consider is location.

Why did you choose Ave Maria originally do you have family in Naples?

 Miami, Tallahassee, and Naples are different places and odds are you will end up in whatever City you attend law school.

An additional factor to consider when transferring is your personal relationships at the school. If you finished in the top 10% of your class you are doing well and your rank will improve significantly, because many of the people above you will transfer.

I had the option to transfer from a mid-level school to some low-level T1's in the law school bubble I thought law school rankings were everything, but now that I am well out of the law school bubble I realize how irrelevant the rankings are.

If you have a lot of good relationships with professors, friends, etc at Ave Maria you might want to stay. Many of my classmates that transferred regretted it they had to start at a new school after all the 1L relationships are formed etc. Some people are great at adjusting to a new social situation while others are not that is a question only you can answer.

One thing I highly recommend doing is negotiating with Ave Maria for scholarship money to reduce tuition if you can get a significant scholarship and graduate in the top 5% of the class you will be in good shape.

With that said both FIU and FSU offer very cheap in-state tuition.

It is a really tough choice my recommendation is always if it is not broke don't fix it. You are doing extremely well if your in the top 10% of your class and my thought is don't rock the boat, but I am a random guy on the internet so take my advice with a grain of salt.

Congrats on your strong first year performance and good luck whatever you decide.

 on: Yesterday at 07:57:20 PM 
Started by silverdoe91 - Last post by NewlyMinted
Were you born in America?

 on: Yesterday at 07:56:20 PM 
Started by silverdoe91 - Last post by NewlyMinted
Lawyers complain, Doctors commit suicide

factor that in too

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