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 on: Today at 12:29:53 PM 
Started by Citylaw - Last post by Citylaw
I read the article so 5 five essays and one ninety minute Practical exam and that is the same difficultly? False it is not.

The practical portion is what messes most people up and there is one less and it is half the size. This is bogus and I will tell kids I walk uphill both ways in the terrible L.A Winters forty years from now when Donald Trump is Dictator of the U.S. and the exam consists of the following multiple choice question

What is an element of negligence?

A. Duty
B. This is not the answer
C. This is not the answer
D. If you select A you will pass.

 on: Today at 12:23:55 PM 
Started by cinnamon synonym - Last post by Citylaw
F. Media  loves him and will keep reporting that he is ahead my wide margins in the polls they make up  and then people will vote for the name recognition then 2020 a Kardashian will win and the world will end.

 on: Today at 11:55:31 AM 
Started by cinnamon synonym - Last post by loki13
Okay, let's make this interesting. Apparently, the Trump campaign may last for a while. While I stick to my original belief (it will be Bush, with Walker, or perhaps Rubio, with an outside shot), let's make this interesting. How will Trump end up-

a. He will bow out before seriously contesting any primary.
b. He will contest a few early primaries, do poorly, then drop out.
c. He will contest some early primaries with mixed results, then drop out.
d. He will go to the end, lose to the eventual nominee, and speak at the convention.
e. Brokered convention! (No. There is never a brokered convention. Seriously. Look at the rule changes. They love to talk about it because it's exciting. It won't happen.)

 on: Today at 09:36:51 AM 
Started by Citylaw - Last post by Groundhog
I definitely hold my Cal bar 3-day preftige over other attorneys licensed elsewhere on a daily basis.

 on: Today at 09:09:57 AM 
Started by Citylaw - Last post by loki13
Here are my thoughts on this-

1. I took a three day bar, so everyone else should have to as well. (This is the "five miles both way, up hill, in the snow" argument.)

2. I like the prestige. Don't step on my prestige. (Having passed the bar in multiple jurisdictions, I still reference my CalBar, because, dude, three days. CalBar.)

3. Barrier to entry!

4. To the extent that California allows more alternative ways to enter the profession (which is true, although neither here nor there), it makes sense that they would have a difficult bar.

All that said, CityLaw, at least we both know that we can now hold our three day bars over all new Cal attorneys in perpetuity. "Oh. So you just had to pass the two day bar? How special for you."

 on: Yesterday at 06:16:12 PM 
Started by Citylaw - Last post by Citylaw

Cal-Bar is shortening the exam from three days to two. Maybe they will hand out participation ribbons next.

If I could pass a 3 day exam plenty of people can. I don't think the bar exam needs to be easier there are plenty of jokers out there capable of passing a three day exam. What will this bring on.

Probably just more pissed that I had to take a 3 day exam and others will not.

 on: Yesterday at 05:35:52 PM 
Started by sisyphus99 - Last post by loki13
SO let me try and be more helpful. Here's would be a better structure, if a little generic.

-Start with the problem. "I used to be this way, because of X, Y, and Z."

-Then talk about the formative experience. "One day, at band camp / SERE training, I got punched in the face!"

-Explain how it changed you. "I realized that X, Y, and Z was a lot like getting punched in the face, but this time ..."

-Then show it in application. "So a few years later, when X, Y  and Z happened to me, I remembered how I got punched in the face, and it was no big deal."

It's a simple, banal, and effective structure.

 on: Yesterday at 04:13:19 PM 
Started by sisyphus99 - Last post by loki13

I'm saying that nicely, and hoping that you remember that the personal statement isn't that important.

But here's the issue- it really looks like what you've done is just append a few buzzwords to the end, and a bit of a mea culpa (and here's why you should discount my undergraduate GPA). More bluntly- this isn't a creative writing contest. Your second, third, and fourth paragraphs don't tell me anything. I don't need you to set a scene. I am completely indifferent to who got punched in the face. I don't know how being punched in the face made you a better person, and what those nebulous "past mistakes" were. Was it lack of ability? Lack of concentration? What stressors?

The soul of narrative of specificity. Again, you're very specific about the SERE training, but I have learned nothing about you. How did SERE training, which you just devoted the majority of your personal statement to, help you with classroom work? What failure in undergrad was rectified?

 on: Yesterday at 04:09:34 PM 
Started by functionial drunk - Last post by Citylaw
I am not even defending it.

Just saying the school does not want to dismiss people. They have lower admission standards, which means statistically there will be more academic dismissal, but no school anywhere wants to lose a paying student.

No law firm wants to lose a paying client, no Bank wants to lose a paying customer, etc.

Schools actively try to recruit students and they want to keep them. Particularly a school like Florida Coastal that is dealing with fringe students in the first place. However, if a 1L cannot get the basics of IRAC on an easy torts exam they got to go, but if everyone at Florida Coastal nailed their exams and it seemed each was fully capable of passing the bar Florida Coastal would love to keep collecting money.

Since you seem so adamant against this may I ask what a school gains by dismissing a student? Why would a school want that to happen?

It happens of course, but a school would rather have paying students unless you can think of a reason they wouldn't. I can't.

 on: Yesterday at 03:52:59 PM 
Started by sisyphus99 - Last post by sisyphus99
Here's change 1. I would appreciate any feedback. Thanks!

Military training often prepares an individual for the physical rigors of combat. When the flash bang and smoke grenades popped and the camouflaged men in balaclavas entered our recently blockaded bus, I realized I was about to enter a new frontier of mental and physical stress.

            Two hours before I found myself in this fabricated town of chaos, my fellow Airman and I had just completed the rigorous Survival and Evasion portion of the United States Air Force’s Combat Survival Training. Two weeks of classroom instruction had culminated in a cold, weeklong exercise in the Cascade Mountains of Washington. For three days a Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) Specialist refined our skills of setting traps, finding edible plants, building shelter and fire and ensuring our basic survival needs. On the fourth day, our mountain laboratory turned hostile. Our SERE Instructor disappeared, and we were now in evasion mode. Following strict radio discipline, my element of six airmen and I received instructions to be extracted. Utilizing a map, compass and our recent training, we meticulously moved 30+ miles to an extraction zone over the next three days. The enemy searching for us was robust; helicopters, dogs and men shouting could be heard in the woods around us. Fortunately, our team of seven was never caught. After a week in the woods, we made it to our extraction zone, where friendly forces and a warm bus awaited us. The two-hour bus ride back to base was filled with anticipation for a hot shower and our first real meal in a week.

            To our surprise, instead of going back to base lodging, the bus turned into a walled-in, small Middle-Eastern themed town, which looked far departed from suburban Washington. White Toyota trucks raced up onto the Bus and cut it off as smoke grenades and flash bangs went off. Camouflaged men in balaclavas entered the bus, yelling, and grabbed an airman in the first seat, punching him in the face. The next moments were a blur, but involved a linen bag over my head, zip-ties on my wrists and being loaded into the bed of a pick-up truck to be whisked off to an unknown location.

            When the linen bag was ripped off of my head, I squinted, waiting for my eyes to adjust in the bright light. Across from me, was a man about 6’4” with cold blue eyes that I will never forget. In a sharp demanding voice, he asked my name. My hesitation bought me a punch to the face. The interrogation continued, as I received physical feedback based on the approval or disapproval of my answers from my captor. Later I was thrown in a cell, and brought out to be interrogated through the night.

            Five years later, the lessons from the training I received in the mountains of Washington and the SERE detention facility still remain with me. Many people have moments of self-discovery, when they realize their physical and mental limits. Military training provides many opportunities for self-discovery. For me, SERE was the pinnacle, pushing me far beyond what I thought my limits were. Mistakes came when pushed beyond those limits, but I learned to recover from them and excel. I have had a short but distinguished military career, graduating from training with distinguished honors, serving three combat tours in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria via Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Inherent Resolve and completing two master’s degrees in the interim.

            The lessons I learned in the Colville Mountains have instilled a work ethic in me that is unrivaled. It is a culmination of experiences instilled when an individual is pushed beyond their expected breaking point of mental and physical stress.  Once pushed beyond that breaking point, confidence begins to rise. In the mountains I realized that I could withstand more of these stressors than I thought. Through the academics of Officer Training School, Undergraduate Air Battle Management Training, Air Surveillance Officer Training and the Joint Air Operations Planning Course, I realized that I could truly excel in the classroom. These experiences have instilled a level of professionalism and maturity in me that I unfortunately did not display in my undergraduate studies. In 2008, I wanted to attend law school but realized that I was not ready. Six years as an Officer in the United States Air Force has transformed me into a professional leader who is ready to commit and excel in Law School. I have learned from past mistakes and today I feel poised and ready to be successful in Law School and whatever lies beyond.

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