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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UMass going anywhere?
« Last post by Citylaw on Today at 03:34:21 PM »
Maybe, but I would not focus to much on rankings honestly.  I think one of the biggest issues out there for incoming law students is looking at rankings and reading all these books etc written by Harvard Grads etc. 

It is similar to a decent high school player getting advise from Lebron James or Shaquille O'Neal on how to get a scholarship.  Lebron James and Shaq are freaks of nature that had people begging them to go, and if you have a 178 LSAT and 3.9 from Yale yea you are going to have a different legal career than someone with a 3.2 from Whatever State and 157 LSAT.

To further make the analogy let's presuem there is 6'7 pretty good high school player, he gets a scholarship to a small division 1 school, plays professionally in Europe for a few years then gets a head college coaching job. That is pretty good, but there is no debate that Lebron or Shaq are infinetly more successful than the 6'7 guy that never made the NBA, let alone the NBA hall of fame, but most people would be pretty happy with that outcome.

No lets relate it to law school, the guy with a 3.2 and 157 LSAT gets into University of San Francisco Law School, finishes in the top third of his class, passes the bar and gets a job making $80,000 out of law school and eventually works in small firms the rest of his life, maybe ends up retiring working for a City Attorney's Office.  That is not terrible result, but the guy that graduates Valedictorian from Harvard, gets a Federal Clerkship, works in Biglaw, then it appointed to the Federal Bench, had a better career than person 1.

However, not everyone is Lebron James, Shaq, or capable of getting a 179 LSAT, but everyone listens to those people even though their advice to the average guy is terrible.

If you are looking at UMass and other schools of that caliber congrats, getting into any ABA school is a big accomplishment, but you are not at Harvard, Yale, etc.  Therefore, don't consider the rankings, which nobody cares about outside of the "Top" schools i.e. Harvard, Yale, etc. 

Nobody cares about the difference between UMass and NorthEastern for example. It is highly unlikely a employer will  say oh I see NorthEastern is ranked 98th and UMass is ranked 108th, we simply must pick the student from the higher ranked school.  Nobody ever cares about the difference between the 98th and 108th best anything.

Therefore, when it comes to selecting a school use common sense and figure out where you want to live, how much money it is going to cost, and how you feel about the school.  If all else fails then use the rankings as a tie breaker, but remember U.S. News is a for profit unregulated magazine offering an opinion. If you want to make life altering decisions based on what U.S. News says then you should move to Albuquerque, New Mexico, because U.S. News ranked it the #1 place to live. http://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/slideshows/best-places-to-live  .  I imagine you are not going to move to New Mexico, because U.S. News ranked it #1.

Therefore, do not make a life altering $100,000 + decision based on a magazine either.

Here is a great article on how to choose a law school. http://www.legalmatch.com/choose-the-right-law-school.html

Good luck to you and congrats on your admission, despite all the b.s. you read on the internet the law can be a great career.

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Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« Last post by Tommy Westphall on Yesterday at 03:55:48 PM »
The rise of Jill Stein!


Time to get paid.  8)
The active socialists/third party who only associated with the democrats due to Bernie are going home to their coocoonests............so?
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Law School Admissions / Re: PhD and law school
« Last post by Tommy Westphall on Yesterday at 03:54:33 PM »
ANY fool can get into law school (its not hard to get in at all)

So if you have the brains to get a PhD you are fine. But I'd finish it still. That way you can put "Dr" on your title (it helps)
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School? Heck yeah. For profit law schools would let in Active ISIS members if the law let them.

License? SOME states have zero felony rules, but as long as its an ABA law school you can move to a place that will accept you.
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I have 2 cases on my record (both nonpublic). One for jostling (pushing someone)(misdemeanor) and the other for credit card fraud (felony). I've paid my debt to society with both and both are now off of my record. I also have an embezzlement charge which was dismissed. I am wondering if I am still able to go to law school and take the bar exam? Will this look TOO bad? I DEEPLY regret my actions and have not done anything since. All of these crimes have been committed within the past 3 years. Will they give me mercy? Do I still have a chance?

I'm going to give you a typical attorney answer. Maybe?

Let's start with the very bad. The number of crimes (three- that's more than one, or two, although it is unclear if the embezzlement was part of the credit card fraud or a separate incident). The type of crimes (jostling, alone, would be no big deal, but credit card fraud and embezzlement both go to honesty and character & fitness qualifications - in addition, expect some probing into your finances in many jurisdictions). And the timeline (they were within the last three years; it's hard to show evidence of significant rehabilitation within a short time frame). You are going to have problems, even though they are off your record.

Now, the good. Context will matter. Assuming you accepted responsibility, made any court-ordered restitution, and can adequately explain both why it happened then and why it won't happen again, you should have a shot.

Different states have different rules, and different schools do as well. Find out if there are any specific to the school/state you wish to practice in. The best rule of thumb is to disclose everything. The Bar will want to know about the charges, even if they were dropped or removed from your record.
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I have 2 cases on my record (both nonpublic). One for jostling (pushing someone)(misdemeanor) and the other for credit card fraud (felony). I've paid my debt to society with both and both are now off of my record. I also have an embezzlement charge which was dismissed. I am wondering if I am still able to go to law school and take the bar exam? Will this look TOO bad? I DEEPLY regret my actions and have not done anything since. All of these crimes have been committed within the past 3 years. Will they give me mercy? Do I still have a chance?
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Law School Admissions / Re: PhD and law school
« Last post by aengusafton on Yesterday at 07:56:25 AM »
Now the fun begins, in law school there is a weeding out process just like in med school, the bottom 1/3 will not be there at the end of the year. Grades are curved downward and in reality, there isn't much difference between an A and a C. That's how competitive it is! Your workweek is roughly 60-70 hours, all assignments are handed in on time, class participation is a given and quizzes happen at the drop of a hat. If you get through it, you still need to take the bar exam and become licensed.

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Law School Admissions / Re: PhD and law school
« Last post by aengusafton on Yesterday at 07:55:12 AM »
What makes you so sure you are qualified to get into law school? Well, let me lay out a couple of facts: first off, you will need a GPA of at least 3.3+ from an academically sound school and a score on the LSAT of 160+ to get into a decent law school. 3.7 plus 170+ to have a shot at one of the prestige schools.

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Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« Last post by cinnamon synonym on July 26, 2016, 09:49:32 PM »
The rise of Jill Stein!


Time to get paid.  8)
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Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« Last post by cinnamon synonym on July 26, 2016, 09:48:20 PM »
Hahahahahhahhah!!!!

Yo, banana boy....You not too good at this....is yo?

When dain bramage happen for you?
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