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Law School Admissions / Re: NBC's The Law Firm
« on: August 04, 2005, 03:04:22 PM »
I think any decent college mock trial team would have killed them.

You're probably right.  The premise is that Black is looking for the country's 'best young trial lawyers'.  But truthfully, don't you think the nation's best young trial lawyers are busy in a courtroom somewhere and wouldn't prostitute themselves for reality TV?

 

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I've been asking this question myself.  The general consensus is that it is difficult to predict how schools deal with situations like these because there are so few of them. 

Most people I talk to seem to agree that if I can break 170 I'll get into a good school even with my 10 year old 2.095.  But Fordham is real good.  Their 25-75 percentile LSAT scores are 163-167.  So you may have to score in the mid to high 170's to catch their attention.  THe best advice I've gotten is study hard for the LSATs, apply early and have a great PS.


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It's really too bad neither BC or BU offer a PT program.  There are some great schools that do, such as G'Town, GW.  For many (like the OP) FT is just not an option.  At the many schools who do offer PT, the academic quality is no different, so I really don't understand, unless it's to maintain some sort of phony prestige of having a student body that can either live off of Mom and Dad right out of UG or go back as established professionals balancing school, a career and a family.     

I couldn't agree with you more.  I suppose I don't have too much of a right to complain because I pissed away my time as an undergrad (when I was living off mom and dad), but it is a shame that it's either all or nothing with these schools.  If you can't dedicate yourself to them 100% for 3 years, you'll get nothing. 

According to their website, Northeastern Law has " . . . has committed itself to addressing the needs of students and of society."

I'm not 100% certain that these schools are doing that when they select only the traditional, fresh out of college, students. 

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Don't BU or BC or NE offer part time programs?     


Nope.  It's interesting that Boston has 6 ABA acredited schools, but only the bottom two - Suffolk and New England have part-time programs.  Here's something else interesting - according to its website, Northeastern School of Law was originally established in 1898 as a part time night school (which was apparently a revolutionary concept at the time) yet it has no part time program today.   

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If you get a 170 you should apply to some of the lower T14, not because of their rank, but because you shouldn't be thinking you are limited because of your GPA from 10 years ago.  There are several people on here who had LSATs over 170 and GPAs in the 2.0s and low 3.0s who got into places like Michigan and G'Town.  An excellent LSAT is likely to score some sort of financial aid anywhere, because, unfortunately, that's all most schools care about. 

 

Believe me, I've thought about that.  But remember, I'm tied to the Boston area because of my house and my family.  Fortunately, between BC, BU, and NEU, there are plenty of good choices around here.  But committing to a full time program would be very difficult.  I'd have to work part time while in school and that wouldn't be enough to support my family, so I'd be looking at loans of tuition and living expenses of around $150,000.  That's a lot of money to commit, expecially considering that if I'm working part time and being a father and husband (that's a full time job any way you cut it), I might find it difficult to remain cometitive with my peers. 

It's all moot until I actually come up with a real LSAT score anyway, but becoming a full time student is daunting. 

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The GPA is going to be killer but have you thought about getting a masters? If you get a masters and your GPA is 3.8, good even though I heard B's and A's are common in graduate schools, it may make that 2.0 look less important. Also, write an addendum even though you can not explain your GPA, you can explain on how it does not reflect your potential in LAW school because it is from 10 years ago. I think you should aim at some Tier 4's and part time lower Tier 2's depending on your LSAT. Tier 3 and 4's can always get somebody with a high GPA but not too many high 160's and 170's come around their way. So, they may figure the hurt you give them in the GPA category will be outweighed because:
A) your high 160's and 170 LSAT (rare for tier 4's and 3's)
B) the GPA can prbly be counterbalanced by somebody with a 150 LSAT and 3.8 GPA.
Either way, best of luck.


I should explain that I have a wife and kids and a great house with a reasonable mortgage, so moving is OUT OF THE QUESTION.  I'm staying right where I am - I'm lucky that there are 6 ABA approved schools nearby.  Unfortunately, only bottom two Boston schools have part-time programs.  So it will almost certainly be either Suffolk or New England for me. 

As far as the masters suggestion goes, that might be a good idea for a younger man, but I'll be 33 in September of '06.  I need a masters degree like I need a 2nd mortgage.  I just want to bang out this JD and start practicing law before I'm 40.  But as I said above, I'm not aiming for any higher tier programs because there aren't any near me that offer part time.  So the best I can hope for is money from 4th tier schools.  And paying for a masters degree in hopes of a law school scholarship just doesn't make sense. 

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  Also, of course if there are any extenuating circumstances that might account for your GPA, work on an addendum to your application explaining that.

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No, I don't think I can explain away my GPA.  It was 10 years ago and I wasn't very interested in being in college at the time.  I'm not sure any sort of addendum would make that look any better.  But you can bet my personal statement will make it clear that now, 10 years later, I am VERY interested in succeeding in law school.

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If you get a 170 they may throw some money your way. I had a 2.78 and only 158 but got between $15-$20k from both Quinnipiac and W New England.

Well thats encouraging.  Although there is a world of difference between a 2.78 and a 2.09.  I guess I'll just have to keep practicing the LSATs and kick some butt on the actual test. 

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I'll be applying to a couple of 4th Tier schools (Suffolk and New England School of Law) as a part time student for 2006.  I've been out of school, in the workforce for 10 years.  I graduated from BC in 1995 with a feeble 2.095 GPA.  But, based on my practice tests, I expect to score at least a 165 on the October LSAT and don't think its unrealistic for my score to approach 170.  I'm really hoping for at least partial scholarships based on my LSAT score.  Is that just a pipe dream because my GPA is so low, or will the 4th tier schools overlook that?

Thanks  for any feedback.  This board seems much better than that lawstudentparadise forum.   

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