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Current Law Students / Re: What does the SBA do at your school?
« on: March 20, 2007, 02:59:29 PM »
In my experience they send lots and lots and lots of unsolicited e-mails.

Current Law Students / Re: info on western state, la verne, FCSL
« on: March 14, 2007, 08:30:18 PM »
My advice....take my advice from above :)

Like others said, if it's a federal judge or state supreme court take that.  Also if it's a state appellate court and it's the state you want to stay in, I'd probably take that too.  Otherwise, I'd take the fortune 500.

If you can get it, DEFINITELY take the 9th circuit - no matter where you're going.  That would be better than any job save for:

1) Something with the Supreme Court
2) A job at a firm you might actually want to work for

Current Law Students / Re: info on western state, la verne, FCSL
« on: March 13, 2007, 12:09:44 AM »
I know somebody who went to Western State and charged $275/hr in a small town as an attorney back in the early 90s and has now been a judge for ten years.  So it is definitely possible to come out of a school like that and do well.  Having said that, that is the exception, not the rule.  Personally, I would not recommend waiting a year and retaking.  If you took it three times and your highest was 152, you will not be getting much higher.  If you do decide to retake, I would only do so if you're going to invest a substantial sum into a review course like Testmasters or Kaplan.

Personally, I'd recommend thinking/praying very long and hard about whether you want to be an attorney or not.  Understand that deciding to become an attorney could mean taking on well over $100k in debt and struggling for years after you get out to pay that off while being stuck in a job that you don't necessarily like.  On the other hand, it could be the greatest experience of your life.  Once you've made up your mind one way or the other, go full steam ahead and work your butt off.

Job Search / Re: Is there such thing as 0L summer jobs?
« on: March 12, 2007, 11:56:24 PM »
I know of two people who've done such a thing.  The first worked as a paralegal-type in-house at a large on-line retailer.  He did it for a year inbetween his bachelor's and law school.  The other worked for a small patent law firm writing patents before starting law school.  If you have a technical undergrad degree, then you can likely find a small patent firm that might be looking to pay you on a per-patent basis.  Otherwise, you can likely find a job in-house at a corporation or perhaps at a law firm if you approach it as a "paralegal" rather than as a "0L clerk"

Also, as far as how much it will help you, my guess is that it could help you some to get a job your 1L summer if you're lower down in your class.  However, by far by far by far the most important factor in getting a job is your 1L grades.  Personally, if you want to do it because it sounds fun then I'd say go for it.  If there is another job that sounds more fun/pays more/etc. then go for that, because it really won't help you that much.  As far as helping you in school, I'm sorry but I can not imagine it helping you at all.  Perhaps for the other person who commented it was useful, but in reality the experience you will have will not make that much of an impact.  It takes two seconds to look up what a motion for summary judgment is, and I can't imagine a civ pro test that actually asks you that.  Civ Pro is about Erie Problems, jurisdictional issues, res judicata, etc. - all things that you would have absolutely no exposure to working at a law firm as a 0L.  Perhaps it would help you with some of the basic vocabulary, but once everybody else learns that after the first week then you'd be on the same playing field as them.

At risk of being unfunny...let me say recount this one moment.

In torts, we were discussing what physical symptoms may be recoverable for NIED. Most states don't allow recover for purely emotional symptoms BUT one of the the physical symptoms they allow recovery for is loss of bladder control. The professor said this very quickly and moved on. I looked around the class and nobody got it.

Any jokes about, well, this subject seem funny to me. I can't believe I'm the only one who got it....

The original post on this threat did not result in loss of bladder control...hence, not funny.

Maybe I'm slow, but I don't get it.

Current Law Students / Re: Anyone else get burnt out or is it just me
« on: December 21, 2006, 09:02:44 PM »
I'm actually not too worried about next semester...I think it'll be nice to start at the beginning again when I can take it (relatively) easy.  It'll also be nice to hit some new topics.

Current Law Students / For those who need a break...
« on: October 30, 2006, 12:01:51 PM »
Here's an article from one of the deans at my law school (BYU)'s a bit outdated from 1991, but I found it amusing nonetheless.

100 Yale L.J. 1679

Enjoy!  ;D

Law School Admissions / They wanted my fall grades...
« on: March 06, 2006, 09:20:53 AM »
My top school asked for my fall this a good thing or a bad thing?  I would think it means I'm borderline admit/waitlist as opposed to borderline reject/waitlist (I'd assume in the latter case they'd just waitlist me).  My grades were poor, but just slightly below my overall GPA (I'm a splitter).....any thoughts on whether this is all good or bad?  what are they looking for?  How much will this influence them?

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