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IMO you'd be better off worrying about finals right now. As someone else said, if you're able to transfer to a higher ranked school then you'd be just as marketable at your current school because you'd have solid grades. There isn't a single firm you couldn't work at coming from GW if your grades are good enough (Wachtell would be unlikely, but still possible if you were first in your class w/ a solid resume).
You'll almost certainly be getting your job in the fall of your second year. This means that even if you did transfer, firms would still be looking at your 1L grades in context of your 1L school. You'll probably have a much better idea of if/where you want to transfer come next summer when you'd actually be applying. Just my two cents.
« on: November 09, 2007, 12:24:40 PM »
It of course depends on your grades once they come out, but my advice would be to apply to firms that come to Spring OCIs, but don't waste your time on other firms.
I could see someone asking about the LSAT, but come on....SAT2? for a job that requires a graduate degree?!? This has to be a flame. Under no circumstances should you ever put these on your resume. It's not that they wouldn't be impressed....they'd probably think a 171 was awesome and they'd want to hire you if they found that out...unless they found it out because it was on your resume. Then they would think you were really odd/arrogant/wacky for putting it on there.
My recommendation: if you really want it to come up, go teach an LSAT class for awhile - you'll make $30+/hr and w/ that on your resume people who read it will either (1) assume that you got a really high score or (2) ask you what your score was. Note that not everyone will catch it as they skim your resume. If you don't want to teach a full-blown class just tutor one or two people on it and it'll have a similar effect w/out taking so much of your time (it will also act as good filler for your limited resume).
Is technical experience requisite (assuming the degree is in tact)? Is the patbar necessary?
Work experience is not required. I think if two candidates were equal than work experience would be in your favor, but it's not even close to being as important as grades. Most decent firms don't care too much about whether you've taken the patent bar yet. It probably falls along the lines of work experience - could be a tie breaker, but isn't necessarily a key thing. If work experience comes up, just say that you knew for sure that patent law was your thing and felt like getting out there as a practicing patent attorney sooner would be more beneficial than working in one very specific area (although don't talk too much trash on working beforehand, because your interviewer likely worked beforehand). I don't think I had anybody even ask me why I chose not to work beforehand - it just never came up. For the patent bar, just make sure to say that you plan on taking it during the (fall/winter) semester of your (2nd/3rd) year (pick one). I haven't taken the patent bar, but I found that nobody really cared too much as long as I had a good answer. I definitely was asked about the patent bar, but the question was always, "Are you planning on taking the patent bar?" I should say for the patent bar, if it's a small employer (i.e. ~10 attorneys or fewer) they will probably care more about it. Also, most decent firms will pay for your patent bar review course after you graduate if you haven't taken it yet (and if you have taken it, many will reimburse you if you took a review course).
I interviewed w/ probably ~150 people and I don't think one person asked me technical questions. The closest thing would be something like "are you familiar w/ X technology?" That only happened a few times and typically it was because there was something on my resume that triggered the question (e.g. I designed websites, so they'd ask which web technologies I was familiar w/). Again, I think this would be more common w/ smaller employers because they'll often specialize in one area or have one big client w/ one particular type of work.
I have about 7 or 8 friends at my lower T1 that are IP and all got paid 1L positions. I believe all of us were at least in the top half of our class, but I think the worst $$ was $30/hr and the best was $2700/wk. In my experience it is *much* easier to find a paid 1L position in the IP world. I would definitely recommend choosing that if you can get it over almost any unpaid stuff (except of course for very prestigious stuff and if money isn't much of an issue right now). It also depends on your background...in my area most firms were interested in CS/EE people, while my friends with chem/bio/pharma backgrounds (who only had bachelor's, not PhDs) had a tougher time finding jobs (but still found great ones). Mechanical was somehwere in the middle. That is very firm-dependent, though, and somwhat geography-dependent. PM me if you have any more specific questions as I'm now quite familiar w/ the process. If you're on the west coast I could definitely recommend firms in whatever city you're looking at.
« on: November 04, 2007, 11:01:28 PM »
I particularly like the copyright and/or trademark infringement and the classic fire animation.
1 - I'd definitely try and work any connections (including just random alumni) rather than doing mass mailings at this point...my guess would be that it's probably too late
2 - yes, you would be crazy
3 - I would think 6 months to a year maybe? Certainly I think you could do it after a year.