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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Really no jobs for T14 grads?
« on: December 26, 2009, 07:45:53 PM »
Bump.  I got into a T10 school and am wondering if I should go.  It's only worth it to me if I have a realistic shot at a big law position.

It's scary that by 2013 there will be competition between the members of that class and everyone else from previous classes.  Are there other things you can do with a T14 degree that pay well? 

You'll be fine because of the two following reasons:

1) You will graduate 3 to 4 years down the road; and

2) You won't be just Joe Nobody from State University Number 29, but you will be from a top 10 law school.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: SMU 1L Taking Questions
« on: December 26, 2009, 07:40:14 AM »
Taking a break from finals, anybody have any questions?

Do you think SMU is a rip-off compare to UH and UT?

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: FSU 2L Taking Questions
« on: December 26, 2009, 07:36:50 AM »
Do you know of any class of 2009 graduates who are still unemployed or under-employed? 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Most school for the least money
« on: December 10, 2009, 09:34:02 PM »
I would like to pay less than 12K per year if possible.  I live in San Diego right now but even the worst school here, Thomas Jefferson, costs 35K.  I don't really care what geographical region I move to for law school as long as I get the most bang for my buck. 

Think he was going for your GPA and LSAT, which is essential to answering your question.

Hey, how is the summer job hunting going?

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Realistic Chances
« on: December 04, 2009, 05:57:40 PM »
Hey, I will be taking the LSAT for the first time on Saturday and have taken 5 or so practice tests so far and have been ranging anywhere from 163-168 ish depending on if I use the raw score converter from the prep books or the raw score converter from the June 2007 LSAT. So my raw score has been from 79-84 ish. I attend a top 30 public university and have a 3.2 GPA. I plan on applying to:

Reaches: Boston College, Boston University
Maybes: Northeastern, Penn State, Florida, University of Connecticut
Probably: Suffolk
Safety: New England

What would be my chances at these schools with say a 3.2 GPA and 165 LSAT? Any other schools I should be looking to apply to? Thanks a bunch.

If you have UF on your list, you need to add FSU as well.  If you have FSU on your list, you need at GSU as well.  Why not also throw in UGA?

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Help! UGA, American, or UFlorida??
« on: December 03, 2009, 10:44:46 AM »
Hey! Not trying to clutter the boards, just can't find a comparison of these schools in another thread.

I really want to practice law in either coastal NC,SC, or FL. Also, I'm an NC resident and am still waiting to here from UNC but not too hopeful!



Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Really no jobs for T14 grads?
« on: November 30, 2009, 11:19:09 AM »
The truth is that this year there were many fewer 2L hires (in terms of top-of-the-market private firms), and things will probably only be marginally better for the class of 2012. But if you're not yet in law school, I wouldn't worry too much about finding a top of the market job if you gain acceptance to a top program (although I would suggest that the 160 standard - rather than the 145 many firms are going to now - will probably take at least 5 years to return in full). The market will pick up. If you entered law school next Fall, you'd probably still face some slowness in the job market when it comes to 2L hiring, but I think (and hope) its safe to say that the Classes of 2010-12 will probably see the worst of the downturn.

There will still be a large inventory of unemployed JDs/Attorneys (class of 2007-2012 and laid off attorneys) in the year 2013 and beyond.   :o

Imagine car companies continue to make the same number of cars, but for 5 years or so, very few consumers actually buy cars.  When a healthy number of consumers are ready to buy cars again, can you imagine how many cars are in the market already ready to be sold.

Right, but consumers buying the nicest cars don't buy the models from three or four years ago that have been sitting on the lot unused. Instead they buy the cars made that year--and the manufacturer takes a loss for those years that the market was in turmoil.

You can't really apply that analogy to legal job markets. Many of the jobless that have been out of school for several years don't just sit there doing nothing like unsold cars. They lower their standards and gain experience in jobs that traditionally may have not been too sought-after and hence, you can't really say that the fresh graduates would be more competitive candidates for hire.

The truth of the matter is that most of these graduates that can't get a laweyer job are doing nothing significant or law related.  Employers looking for a entry level attorney would most likely hire a 2014 graduate than 2010 graduate, unless the 2010 graduate is exceptional in some aspects. 

How common is it to study abroad during law school.  I'm looking at one semester-long Chinese Law (with 7-semester LL.M option) program in particular at Tsinghua University that I've seen promoted on Boston University's and UPenn's websites.  I am also interested in programs in Hong Kong.  From what I know, schools are very limited by the ABA in the number of students (4) they can send abroad to the same university in any given year. 

Is anyone else interested in studying abroad during law school.  I was in China for some time in college and I hope to build on that with further Chinese legal studies expertise. 

Do you speak fluent Mandarin?  If not, what's the use?

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: St Mary's School of Law
« on: November 30, 2009, 07:50:46 AM »
Go to Houston or Texas Tech instead, if possible. Even if you have to pay sticker, they'd be much better choices.

Why are you so knowledgeable about Texas?  Do you want to end up in a Texas City?

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Transfer Friendly Law Schools
« on: November 30, 2009, 07:45:45 AM »
I think Florida State vacuums up more transfers than anywhere else.

Do you have a number?

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