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Nope..I'm a non-URM.

If you're URM, I would recommend that you apply to some Top 14 law schools.  But, since you're not, I think you should add some more schools toyour list.  How about UF, UGA, UHouston, and UNC? 

So my first LSAT, I got a 152, which was I huge surprise for me at the time because I was testing in the low 160's prior to that (the outcome is fully explained in an addendum). Subsequently, I retook the LSAT and improved by 12 points to a 164. Will that effect my chances at any of these schools and if not, what are my chances at these schools with money if they look at the 164? I realize a few of these are safety schools but I'm simply curious whether anybody knows people who've received good scholarships from schools like UK, UofL, and Cardozo with similar stats. I have good softs (Bilingual, a lot of community service, singer/songwriter in Nashville, 1st generation college student in my family) and I have an upward grade trend after my first year at college (averaged 3.7) which is also fully explained via addendum. Any insight would be great, thanks!

Here's my list, I sent all of my apps. off Dec. 28th.
Washington & Lee, Kentucky, Ohio State, Louisville, Illinois, Cardozo, Wake Forest, George Washington, George Mason, and Indiana-Bloomington.

Are you Hispanic? 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 3.786/171
« on: January 02, 2010, 11:06:14 AM »

I'm a senior at UC Irvine and majoring in Political Science.

LSAT (taken once): 171 (Sep '09)
GPA: 3.786

I'll be applying to the top 15 schools, but I'm wondering what my chances would be at:


I think you should add Penn, Duke and UCLA to your list. 

Job Search / Re: Studying for the BAR, huge DEBT, no JOB, WHAT DO DO?
« on: January 02, 2010, 11:03:04 AM »

I am in the same quandry. I just got told by my brother-in-law that an associate position is mine at the firm he worked with if I wanted it. However, it is 150 miles away, so I would need to live away from my husband for awhile until it was economically feasible for him to move (he has a job where we live now). Also my brother-in-law would be my supervisor. And finally, the firm he works for is one of those with an attorney that appears on TV. I am worried that once the economy picks up, it would be hard for me to move back into what I want to do with that on my resume. Thoughts?

P.S. - my husband is making enough for us to survive on while I defer my loans...but it is tight. I am working for a government office, who still hasn't heard whether they have the funds to hire any attorneys or not. Help!

Is your brother in law secretly interested in you?    :o

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: texas law schools
« on: January 02, 2010, 11:01:14 AM »
I'm here in Texas also finishing my undergrad soon.  UT is fantastic if you're accepted.  Houston and SMU are both pretty good too.  Outside of them, going to another law school in Texas would be going against the principle of getting into the best law school you can.  Unless you have personal reasons to stay local, such as for family, might as well apply across the country.  But even then Texas is so large that a ten hours across isn't really local anymore. 

The GPA low at UT is in the 3.3's. 

Unless you're wanting to get an internship and certification practicing oil and gas law, I'd recommend just going to another state. 

If one wants to practice in Texas, it might be more benefitial to go to Texas Tech than say LSU or U. of Kansas. 

I attend a school in Ohio, which I will be graduating from this coming May. I need to know if I have any chances at University of North Carolina. Also, which Ohio schools or other outside schools (no particular state desired, would like good state job prospects though) I could make it in to.

I have good soft factors from college. As in, I am a Division 1 college wrestler which will hopefully go good for me then.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Since your softs are pretty weak, it will come down to your numbers.  Go pick up a USNews grad school ranking guide just to see what law schools are out there and match your gpa/lsat ranges to that of the schools you wish to attend.  It's simple.

 ;D ;D ;D


I have good soft factors from college. As in, I am a Division 1 college wrestler which will hopefully go good for me then.

That's not good soft factors.  Good soft factors would be, you were homeless and then got adopted as a kid, and worked through college to pay for tuition and food.  Good soft factors would be if you're black.  Good soft factors would be if you're the President of several school organizations and received numberous awards for special contribution to your school. 

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: texas law schools
« on: December 30, 2009, 03:51:19 PM »
I'm applying to Baylor! I live in Texas and that is, in fact, the only school I applied to... I have a 162 LSAT and a 4.0 GPA, so I'm hopeful that I'll be accepted and maybe get some scholarship too. I didn't apply to UT because I don't really like Austin and couldn't see myself living there for three years. I didn't apply to U of H because it is a bit too close to home and I'm trying to be a little more independent from the family, same for South Texas (one of my cousins is actually a professor there so that would probably be worse).

I applied to Baylor because I love trial law and actually being in the courtroom. They have one of the best trial advocacy programs in the nation, and since that is what I am most passionate about in the law field, that is where I applied! South Texas has a great trial law program as well, but again, I'm kind of tired of my parents having a closer relationship with my professors than I do.

These comments sound fairly close to believe the oft- (and rightly-) maligned "specialty rankings" of the US News. That said,  Baylor is a good school--good luck!

I would put Baylor slightly lower than SMU and UH, mainly due to its location. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Am I Wasting Time/Money Applying Now?
« on: December 29, 2009, 07:14:23 PM »
I'm in need of some pretty quick advice, for reasons that will quickly become apparent...

I understand that it is highly beneficial to apply to law schools as early as possible (October/November seems to be the consensus), and my original plan was to wait until next cycle and then apply in those months listed. However, I've had a couple of things happen at work recently that are leading me to wish that I had applied this cycle.

I have accumulated my rec letters already, and they are sitting in wait in LSDAS; transcripts are in LSDAS as well..would just need to put together a personal statement, which, as motivated as I feel right now because of my loathing for work, I think I could do reasonably quickly.

My numbers are 172/4.0 (4.19 LSAC). The schools I would like to apply to are basically the top 14, perhaps minus the top 3 since I doubt whether I'd have a shot at admission there and would probably just be throwing away a couple hundred bucks in admissions fees.

Have I missed the boat this cycle for admission and/or scholarship dollars if I got apps out in, say, the first week of January?


Late is when your application is complete after February 1st.  Send in everything now and make sure they are complete by January 10. There will be a big wave of application right after the new year. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 3.6 gpa, 163 LSAT -- opinions?
« on: December 26, 2009, 07:48:38 PM »
- Double-major in Geology and Business Administration aiming to practice enviromental law
- Involvement in ECs (sorority, academic fraternity, enviro. activism groups)
- Two prior internships (one in law, one in political campaign)
- Maryland resident (does anyone know if/how much UMD takes residency into consideration?)

My list so far includes:
Duke (reeeeeach...)
Penn State

Any thoughts?

Since you have UNC and Emory, you might as well add UGA.

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