« on: December 12, 2007, 02:00:57 AM »
I studied in a bar the entirety of 1L. No joke.
I am talking about out of the blue, no relation, begging for help type stuff.Something like that could work, Bill.
That's why I suggested going after the undergrad or law school connection. Something along the lines of:
Mr. John Doe:
I will be entering Northwestern University Law School next fall. While researching different areas of law and law firms I have an interest in, I came across your name and saw that you graduated from NU in 1994. One area of law that I have an interest in is Securities. I see that your practice is focused on that area and I also read the recent paper you published. Would you have some time to chat or get together for lunch to discuss Northwestern, Securities law, or law in general? I'd love to pick your brain for a few minutes. Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you.
You have worked 100+ hours a week and still made the time to humor any random unsolicited call that came your way? Really?Honestly, the passing around of the e-mail was an exaggeration. That kind of thing would only happen if the email was particularly rude or amusing. But it's doubtful that you would get a response.
You are a better man than I.
I agree with you about trying to be helpful, and the impact of Karma, but there are realistic limits. When you don't have time for yourself and your family, it's kinda hard to donate a significant amount of time to strangers.
I've not done the 100 hour week thing consistently. But I have worked 80 hour weeks on a regular basis. I'm not saying these guys need to drop everything to talk with a potential law student. But time can be made here and there when trial is not coming up or a deal is not about to close. Your comment about how they would probably pass around the e-mail laughing at it is what got me. And the sad thing is, it would not surprise me one bit if that was done. Many of the big firm lawyers I have met would barely give me the time of day during an interview, let alone an unsolicited email or phone call. Many of them really are the slime of the earth. Luckily, there are some good ones out there.
It's not that they are assholes. It's that they work at biglawlz, and they get like 50 unsolicited emails a day from various recruiters, marketers, etc., and it gets very annoying to always feel like everyone always wants something from you.If any attorney I know got an unsolicited email from someone who they had no prior contact with, I think they would pass it around the office so that we could all have a nice laugh.
They would do that to a soon-to-be-law school student looking for a little bit of help or guidance?
I don't know what kind of lawyers you know, but the ones I know wouldn't do that.
I'll try to remember this thread a few years down the line if someone emails me and I want to know how to be an a$$hole.
Once you are introduced to these people, they are like the nicest doods in the world. It's just that unsolicited things don't work out as well.
what school 1lsox?
Slept 12 hours last night, now somewhere between refreshed and groggy.
Good to see the 0L kept posting, despite not knowing what he is talking about. (I spent my 0L summer developing a website for law school admissions advice where I interviewed 30+ adcomms - I have a pretty good idea about how this admissions game works)
Sounds like an interesting summer. The general rule is that 0Ls are pretty clueless. Then again, so are 1Ls, but they at least have some experience to draw from.
Honestly, it was pretty hard to get past the "we consider every application" BS, but some were pretty honest and gave some surprising information.