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Incoming 1Ls / Re: OFFICIAL "I am going to ______ in the Fall" Thread
« on: August 02, 2005, 05:36:15 PM »
Albany :)

Law School Admissions / Re: Taking the LSAT 3 times
« on: August 02, 2005, 08:42:34 AM »
I would not recommend taking the LSAT three times. It is a pain in the ass, and it is almost sadistic! With that said…I took the LSAT three times. But, if I would have just taken the time to research the law school admission process in the first place, I would have only taken it once. I was not sure if I really wanted to go to law school, so the first time I took the test, I did it on a whim and scored average. I met with a prelaw advisor who told me that if I could swing another 4 or 5 points I would be a more solid candidate at the schools I was looking to go to. I figured that he knew what he was talking about so I just took the test again a few months later. I practiced a little but I was a double major taking 18 to 21 credits a semester and working 40 hours a week. I did not put in the time I should have dedicated to practicing and scoring well enough to bring my score up. I thought familiarity with the test would help me get a few extra points. Unfortunately, I scored 5 points lower. At this point, I knew I was in some serious trouble. I put law school off for two years, got a masters degree and solid work experience. Then I decided law school was something I still wanted to pursue. But, I had to take the test a third time to make up for the second score. I put a lot of pressure on myself because I knew this would be the make or break factor.

I did a lot of research this time. I took a prep course, and I took one real LSAT test after the next in order to practice. My practice scores were 10 to 12 points higher than my highest score. I was really confident that I was going to do well. But, unfortunately for me, I do not handle standardized test well. I am not sure why since I can write a blue book with the best of them. Anyway, I was praying for anything that could prove the second score was a fluke. In the end the third test only brought me one point higher than my first test, but it was enough to write an addendum explaining the situation.

It worked for me, I got into law school, and I am happy. If things were different I might have been able to get into a better law school, but I am going to be a 1L at a solid law school, so I am happy. Sometimes you just have to deal with the cards you are dealt.

Site Suggestions and Announcements / Re: tees for the ladies
« on: July 28, 2005, 08:38:19 AM »
I would love to buy that shirt if you guys did them in a color other than pink. Maybe a baby blue or something. I think they would rock as tank tops too!


I am pretty sure that moving between part and full time is an easy thing to do as long as you are in good academic standing. I hear about people doing it all the time. I think you should probably check with the schools that you intend to apply to. I would think each school has a different policy on when you can switch. As for finding the classes, again, each school will have different course listings. The only way to get a definitive answer is to call up admission and ask tell them your plans, and ask them if they offer classes that a second semester part time 1L would need during the fall semester.

Good luck!

Congrats Kitty! I knew you would get in!! :)

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Should I be worried?
« on: July 23, 2005, 06:35:58 AM »
I do not want to be discouraging, but I was in a similar situation, and although it turned out ok...It was very painstaking. I took the LSAT 3 times (149, 145, 150). I also tried the princeton review before my last attempt at the LSAT, a total waste of a thousand dollars... Anyway, I was a double major with a 3.4 GPA in undergrad, and I graduated with a 3.97 GPA in my masters program. I have been published twice, spoken at scholarly conferences, I was involved in a ton of organizations (president of one, E board member of another) Worked two jobs all the way through college, and I have 2 solid years of work experience after college while going for my masters. Even though, I had hoped all of this would out weight a low LSAT score, it did not. The point is, I had a HARD time getting admitted into law school. I was waitlisted at 9 schools (pace and hofstra being 2 of them in NY). I was admitted to Widener and Vermont Law School. Then I was given the option to go through a conditional acceptance program at Albany. I took them up on the offer and managed to get through the program successfully. I am now going to be attending Albany. It was a long drawn out struggle which was very humbling.

For a long time, I wondered what I could have done differently, but in the end I realized my LSAT score decided my fate, and there was nothing academically or professionaly that I could have done different that would have made a difference. It sucks, but the LSAT means a lot more than any other accomplishment in the admissions game. It took me a long time to realize this, but it is the truth. Like other posters said, if you are willing to move to go to law school you can make your dreams come true. You may not get into a school in NY, but you should apply and give it a true effort. If a school gives you the chance to take part in a conditional program, take them up on the opportunity,and work your ass off to prove yourself because it may open doors that would be closed otherwise.

When you apply this time, make sure you mention your masters degree, get your transcripts sent to LSAC. Also, make sure you add in an addendum about testing poorly. But, try to bring it full circle to focus on the positive aspects of your accomplishments. You may not take standardized tests well, but you thrive in academia, or something like that. Try not to place the blame on doing poorly on standardized tests because you do not want to come off as a complainer, but the addendum is worth it if you can do it in a tactful manner.

Good luck! I wish you the best.  :)

My boyfriend is moving me in the Saturday before orientation. He is going to stay until Monday afternoon, and then get back to NJ for work on Tuesday. But, my birthday is that Thursday, so my parents are going to come down from Tuesday to Friday. Then my boyfriend is coming back down on Friday to spend the weekend with me for my birthday. It is going to be a busy week and I am thankful that my family and boyfriend are going to be there to help me through it! :)

Are trial program for peoplw who can't get in as regular admission?

It is for people who the school feels would be successful in law school, but their LSAT scores are lower than the school they put us in a trial program and make us prove that we can handle it. Each program has its own guidelines. The program that I was in required us to take two second year law classes online, over a two month period. To gain admission we need to maintain a certain GPA. However, the only thing that counts towards the GPA is the final in each class. It is rough, and a lot rides on how you do on the final, but it is worth it.


WOW!!!! Shadowcreeper, I am SO HAPPY for you!!!! That is awesome, I knew you would do it!

Now, send some of that my way, will you?? ;D ;D ;D

Legal Kitty,

Thanks! I know you will get in. I am sending some good vibes your way. My fingers are crossed for you. Let me know when you get the results!!


Incoming 1Ls / Albany Law School...
« on: July 18, 2005, 03:42:18 PM »
I finally got my grades for AAMPLE and I did well enough to gain admission into Albany. It feels great to be able to make a decision and pick a school. I am going to spend tomorrow looking at Albany and Vermont, just to make sure Albany is where I will be happiest.

Anyone else definitely going to Albany?


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