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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Should I take the LSAT again?
« on: July 15, 2005, 01:08:11 AM »
No urm, nothing too special... coming straight from college, tons of extracirriculars, great LOR from county judge and law school professor.

Studying for the LSAT / Should I take the LSAT again?
« on: July 14, 2005, 03:20:25 PM »
Hey guys... in June I got a 152 on my lsat... now im debating whether or not to take it again... In my kaplan course, my practice tests were 153, 155, 151, 156, 157 in that order. Come test day I somehow got a 152. i want to apply to schools like syracuse, penn state, seton hall, rutgers, etc, but im wondering if its worth taking the lsat again. Say i get a 157 (the best i pretested) it only averages to 154.5... is a 2 point increase really worth a second test, granted thats if i even top my score out. What do you guys think? should i go for it, or use my 152 and my 3.6 and cross my fingers? any advice would be helpful thanks!

Here is some advice---don't take much of what the statwhores and schoolrank-obsessed naysayers tell you on this board.

read my post over in "studying for the LSAT" portion on this board.

then do some soul searching. Taking the LSAT again is NOT worth it unless you are going to develop a new strategic system and you know for a fact you are learning more and WILL do better. Besides the OCT lsat, while the ideal time, may not give you enough time to prepare. December may be better--however it will push your application completion date back.

do not be ashamed of a low LSAT score, remember half the country doesn't even make that.

Lastly apply to every school in your area that has scores similar to yours or slightly higher. Write a good application essay and you will get in somewhere. Also realize you can transfer law schools after your first year provided you do well and think of it like this---if you do get in a school that isn't regarded as "prestigious" or whatever the folks on these boards call it, you have an even better chance to do better than your classmates and rank higher. What I mean is if you are a smart guy and you know you are, you have a good GPA, you stand a better chance smoking the people in your law school and having a great shot at transferring somewhere "higher-up".

I'd go for getting in somewhere now. visit the schools and evaluate them on what they truely are and put the hype aside.

thanks a lot that helps and finally eased a lil bit of tension from this whole fiasco... im just so confused though... like i really dont wanna take the lsat again, heaven forbid i get a lower score or the same... but then again, i dont wanna be denied admission to all the schools i wanna go to... so im in such a catch 22... should i just be optimsitic and try for october and like a 156-157 which is wht i predict i would get... that would average my score to about a 154-155 which still isnt that good, but falls in range of SHU and rutgers... i know i could probably get into a lower ranked shcool, but i know i probably wouldnt end up transfering and i really want to go the best school i could get into... wat should i do?

Law School Admissions / Re: Few Questions about Admission
« on: July 11, 2005, 04:51:40 AM »
thanks a lot ! i know all schools are different, but generally about how long does it take to find out your decision if i were to apply in say sept... reason being, i wanna try wit my lsat score now (which is lower then i thought it would be) but if i get denied, i wanna still have time to take the december test if need be and apply in the same year, i wanna be in law school in fall of 06...

what were ur scores/grades

thanks for the advice and no im not a urm... a few more questions though... what are my possibilities at Rutgers Camden, i was looking through some of the numbers and it seems i might have a shot there... i wanna take the lsats again in Oct but im extremely pessimistic about it... i took the june lsat with a whole kaplan course behind me, where i was scoring 153-156s on the practice tests, and then got hit blindsided with this score. I studied my ass off too. Im afraid if i take the lsat again, god forbid i do worse or the same, then it just solidifies my poor score and makes it that much more pungeant... if you know what i mean... so im confused. Ive been in contact with a friend of mine who is a law professor at SHU law and said he doesnt think i will have a problem getting into somewhere in there area with my gpa, but listening to this board it seems i may indeed have a problem...
so if shu and rutgers law is outta the question... what about rutgers camden? how about other schools such as pennstate, syracuse, new york law, fordham, widener, etc... i really had my heart set on sumtin in NJ or NY however...

what do u guys think about all this?

Law School Admissions / Few Questions about Admission
« on: July 07, 2005, 04:55:38 AM »
I have a few questions about the admission process hopefully some of you could help... i plan on attending law school in the fall of 2006. I have recieved my LSAT score already, and am gettin LOR and personal statement ready... when should i apply? if i were to apply in september of this year would that be too early? also, how long does it usually take if i were to apply in sept to find out (and what are the specifications of ed and ea)... lastly, if one were to get rejected from a school, can they reapply at will or will the previous rejection hamper their possibilities of acceptance and is there a period one must wait before applying again? i know its a lot of questions, but any answers would be more the helpful! thanks!

anyone who got accepted to SHU or either Rutgers schools, can you please tell me what your LSAT/GPA combos were. Also, everyone who got rejected, could u do the same. Im trying to see my chances of acceptance and would really like to see wht other people acheived to gain admission... thanks a lot guys i really appreciate it...

Hey everybody, im new here and need some advice or help on my law school situation. I have a 3.6 GPA from Seton Hall University, but my Lsat score was 152. I have great extraciriculars, president of Phi Alpha Delta pre law fraternity, chair on our pre-law club, staff writer for the paper, studied abroad, national sociaety of collegiate scholars and national deans list and all that stuff.... do you guys think my gpa and honors and awards will outweigh my lousy lsat score.... i am planning on applying to Seton Hall Law or Rutgers Law Newark... and as a safety maybe penn sate, syracuse or widener, but i really want either SHU or Rutgers...

what do you think my possibility of getting accepted is if i apply now. Should i take the lsat again in october (im graduating in the spring of 2006 so i have time) but im afraid i may do the same or based on pressure and stress possibly worse. Is a 152, 3.6 GPA and the aforementioned extracirriculars enough to gain admission? anyone with advice or an opinion please let me know, also of u have suggestions for alternative law schools or have been in the same situation please let me know. thanks guys and i really appreciate your responses and feedback!!


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