I was wondering if any one would be able to compare Pitt and Temple? How does Pitt place in Philly compared to Temple?
I wondered the same thing last year when I was working on apps, and I actually applied to both schools. I'm at Pitt now (so this might be favorably biased, but Temple still rocks!), so I have shed some light on what I know about the each. The obvious info is that Pitt is ranked higher than Temple...but rankings aren't everything so you have evaluate the schools beyond the numbers. Some other info:Tuition -
Both have resident/ non-resident rates, but it will cost you more in tuition to go to Pitt than @ Temple. However...Living expenses -
It is cheaper to live in Pittsburgh than Philly, so in the end, you almost end up paying the same total for housing + tuition at either school. I don't know what the average rental rates are in Philly, but in Pittsburgh law students can easily get GREAT 1BDs for $550-$750 range. Transportation is also included in your tuition, so all you have to do is flash your student ID to ride any bus in the county.Diversity-
Temple has a higher % of minorities than Pitt, but I don't believe the difference spans beyond 10%. The difference in gender is also minimal, but I believe Temple's female % is also higher.Study abroad -
from what I understand Pitt Law is not participating anymore in the semester at sea (I head some story about a large wave hitting the boat last year and causing probs, so I guess the school doesn't want to take on the liability...?). But they still have excellent services to get students set up with summer/semester abroad progs. Temple has a strong int'l studies program as well. Some of the locations offered by the school include Tokyo, Beijing, and Ireland.Special programs -
Temple offers programs for areas of specialization in: Trial Advocacy, Business and Tax Law, International Law, Intellectual Property & Technology, and Public Interest Law. They also offer a variety of clinical edu. progs. Pitt has a variety of certificate programs, including: Civil Lit,, Enviro Law Science and Policy, Intellectual Property and Tech Law, Int'l and Comparative Law, and Health Law (ranked #11 on USN). They also offer 7-unit clinical progs. with the Enviro Law Clinic, Civil Practice Clinic, Health Law Clinic, and Elder law clinic (the Elder Law clinic is one of only a few in the country).Bar passage -
Both schools exceed the state's passage rate for first time bar takers.Jobs/ Show me the money
- Grads from either school will obviously place well in their respective cities. Pitt grads also place very well in Philly (among other Mid-Atlantic cities), so in my opinion being at Pitt gives you the best of both worlds because Pitt grads have a lot of advantages in the Pittsburgh legal market, but can also move east and still find many opportunities.Upside/Downside of locations -Upside Pittsburgh -
Has a small town feel, but you're still in a city. Grads only have to compete with Duquesne students, so finding a job locally isn't a tough gig.Downside Pittsburgh -
Not as exciting as some of the other large cities throughout the country (in terms of things to do, etc). But I suppose this isn't a bad thing when you want as few distractions as possible.Upside Temple -
Lots to do in the city, and you're in a larger job market. You're also closer to nearby cities like Baltimore and DC so if you find opportunities in the summer or school year, it's not too hard to get over to other cities. And in general there's a lot more going on in the city when compared with Pittsburgh.Downside Temple -
Things are a little more costly and there are more fun distractions of a big city. Grads also have Penn students to compete with in the local market.
So hope this info helps a little bit. Oh and how did I choose between the two, you wonder? Well fate made the decision for me - Temple was one of the schools I was rejected from, while Pitt admitted me w/ $$. go figure. But I think I would have been ultimately happy even if the situation had been reversed. Anyways, take a look at both and see which school meets your own needs... but you might end up like me, with fate making the final decision.