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I lavish my girlfriend with love and adoration when I'm in the real world.

PS - Nobody died when Clinton lied. Bush lied, get over it, and ask yourself if you agree with the real reasons we are in Iraq or if you think there is a better alternative course to securing our interests. Setting up a democracy may be an effective measure in the long run, I'm not entirely opposed to this strategy. Everyone sits around and debates the smoke.    

Michael Moore is a GOOD MAN.

Misrepresenting the truth is not honest and certainly not the quality of a good man.

Some people might say that about our current President....

Some might.  I don't.

Agreed.  The President didn't lie, and certainly didn't lie to make a buck like Moore did.

When you take a country to war on a set of premises that aren't remotely true, I would say thats a lie. He tries to hide behind the intelligence community and blame them, but the rationale for war was a contrived pretext i.e. a big f-ing lie. Bush wanted a war (the downing street memos confirmed what rational people have known all along)and he lied to get one. Bush lied. Debating whether or not he lied is moot at this juncture, because he did, so take your head out of your ass. If you want to have a debate, debate the theory and policy he subscribes to that pushed him to fabricate the prextext for war. We need a secured access to oil on our terms. Current global supply results in shortages in the next 3 years and unless significant reserves are discovered, that shortage will get drastically exacerbated. Without a Saudi Arabia sized discovery in the next 25 years, the world will see near oil depletion. Given these circumstances, promoting democracy in the middle east with close ties to an opec member, probably the only democratic member, is a far better position to negotiate from to keep our supply of oil constant and low cost. China is making deals in South America to secure their oil needs, and that need is also why they've made an over-priced bid for unical oil. World leaders are not dumb to the fact that oil is increasingly scarces and unless provisions are made to secure it, its going to cost us big in the long run.

So in the short run, American's are dying in the quaint little terrorist training ground. Iraq. The terrorist solidiers in Iraq will be the ones with the training and know how to find their ways into our buses, subways, and buildings. Thanks George. Maybe if we used that money we spend on the oil war to develop a new energy source, one we could sell the technology to the rest of the world for at a hefty premium, we could extricate ourselves from the middle east all together and let them blow each other to hell instead. Thats the debate.

Is this a war on terror? Whats the benefit? Kill as many as we can? That seems to be our strategy. Well, why not, it worked in vietnam, so it should work here too. Soon there will be more dead and wounded american soldiers than in the 9/11 attack itself. If bush wants to save american lives from terrorists why is he sending our brothers, sisters, cousins, moms, dads, and neighbors to die at their hands?Perhaps a democratic iraq will be able to spread democracy in the middle east and root out terrorism in the long run. Otherwise, and please inform me, how does this war keep a dirty bomb, nuclear device, or suicide bomber out of the united states? My answer is that it doesn't and thats why this the iraq war is not a war on terror.

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Hastings Bound
« on: June 29, 2005, 01:39:55 PM »
None of that "hatings"! I don't like. Aren't we all going to be a happy bunch of friendly law student??? With a healthy dose of ambition and competetion, of course ;-).

Of course we will be! We'll be in San Francisco. I don't know about anyone else, but getting out of minnesota for a bit will be a great change. I <3 Minneapolis, but we've had our time together.

Now the question is, will I ever actaully get to experience San Francisco being a law student/laywer....that is the question.

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Hastings Bound
« on: June 29, 2005, 12:48:55 PM »
Hey Grubesacs, you didn't mean to refer to Hastings as Hatings did you?

Of course I did. I don't make mistakes.

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Hastings Bound
« on: June 29, 2005, 12:45:23 PM »
Hmmm, toughloiners. Not bad. What would a toughloiner look like? Probably really hagard and depressed and raunchy smellin...a lot like us come november... :o

I'm in for a happy hour sometime in August, if one comes up. I'd love to make some contacts wit chyuz.   

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Hastings Bound
« on: June 28, 2005, 03:01:17 PM »
I'm in at Hatings and would love to make some contacts out there when I move. I'm giving up my spacious existence in Minneapolis for life in "The Tower". I just don't have the finacial excess to fly out early on a housing search. Plus I figure if I can get by on 800/month then I'll be better off anyway. Next year of course will be different, but for this year, it won't be too bad.

I hear there is a happy hour thread goin around and I'll love to get in on it. Where abouts is it? I can't really find it. The one I found was for may...I'll try harder. GO HASTINGS!

Ideas for a mascot:
The Snakes
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Love and Peace

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