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Current Law Students / Re: Syracuse - Opinions Please.
« on: May 05, 2005, 12:50:12 PM »
Not that it matters, but I'm sort of a political junky and Sen. Joseph Biden, Jr who is a f-ing rhetorical rock star went to Syracuse and received his JD. He worked in private practice and ran for local government, within four years of graduating he became a US senator and has been there ever since '72. He's a rock star. Point being, the first couple years out of school the name helps, but after that its about personal drive and ambition. Are you a rock star or a dud? If you are a rock star, you'll be one no matter where you go to school.

Also, some schools in the top 20 are regional. There are plenty of postings on regionality, so I won't go into it, but I wouldn't count on a syracuse JD going well beyond NY. Its possible I suppose, but it will be much much harder than if you just go to a school in the state you want to live in.

Current Law Students / Re: Government Work and Politics
« on: May 05, 2005, 09:17:32 AM »
Well Jumbo,

I think there are many avenues that a large firm can open. I would just advise that you know what your life will look like and the type of work that you'll be doing. If you are ok with that, then its a good choice for you. However, I know what mind-numbingly boring corporate style office work is like, and to think that as an associate at a firm the types of jobs you'll be doing will be anything other than the most mundane and repetitive legal research, filing, and writing tasks would be erroneous. You will have very little responsibility (in the big picutre), be very far removed from any final product, and be able to take very little satisfaction in the end result of your work (unless of course business transactions fill you with a sense of fulness and well being). Legal work is dull, ask anyone lawyer, and the key is to assess why it is you want to do what you do. What door is it that you want opened? The post above this one is a great example and he/she finds the criminal justice system to be extremely engaging.

I find policy work and political struggle to be intriguing and their are many ways as a lawyer to work into a policy related position. I may even work at a large firm, but it would have to translate into government in some way and I know these positions are few and far between, usually reserved for those with very specialized government experience, not a newbie LS grad. Anyway, although a majority of elected officials may have been involved in private practice (the majority definately have not been a part of BigLaw), it is their political involvement in other arenas that allowed them to attain office.

Current Law Students / Re: Government Work and Politics
« on: May 04, 2005, 09:17:32 AM »
Had enough of the corporate hell? What area of business have been employed in? What has you changing your mind? Good to know there are others who see something beyond the devilish lure of BigLaw.

Current Law Students / Re: Government Work and Politics
« on: May 02, 2005, 02:35:13 PM »
I guess no one? Everyone chases dollars? Do you know what the attrition rate is at the most coveted big law positions? 70% after 7 years. Have fun hating your life, all of you who see that 125k starting salary in your eyes. And really, truth be told, you are working two jobs, since thats what 80 hrs a week is. I'll work one job, thanks, and make 70k. I'm ok with that. Peace.

Ok, I tried this subject in more of a roundabout way in a previous post, but I think perhaps the post may have been too long. This is what I wanted to get at.

Q: Why do you want your J.D.?

A: To effect social change through political activity at the local or state level

Intended Career Path (generally speaking)

Work for the DOJ  in civil rights or other politically
progressive/engaging manner, in time run for state/local office

Undergraduate Major

Political Science and Sociology

Current Law Students / Government Work and Politics
« on: April 14, 2005, 10:49:21 AM »
It is a known fact that a large proportion of those seeking a law degree do, in fact, possess a political science degree as well. I will be attending, in all probability, UC Hastings which reports that something in the neighborhood of 20% of its students fall into this category, myself included.

I am an idealist, and though working hard to graduate in the top of my class in order to "earn" the right to contribute handsomely to Dewey Cheatum and Howe has its allure (specifically, about $125,000 dollars a year worth of allure), it does not speak much to my core values, beliefs or ambitions. I’ve spent the better part of a year working for corporate America doing various tasks for the illustrious Target Corporation, and know that large firms operate in the same way. It is a lonely, empty, and unfulfilling existence. I am certain that there are many others who feel much the same way.

For all the talk and time individuals spend on these boards ranting about rankings and firm placement, is there not anyone who is concerned about their law degree and how it can be used in significant and meaningful ways:  upholding and advancing civil rights, promoting legislation that furthers the interests of the impoverished, identifying and reverse practices the results of which, though not intended to be racist, are racist.

So my question is, who is with me? Where are you political science majors? Does anyone have eyes for the “greater good”, for working on legislation, and being involved one way or another in public policy? What are you doing to prepare, what avenues are you peering down, and what’s the experience you are carving out for yourself in law school to facilitate your goal?

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Hastings Bound
« on: August 08, 2005, 01:38:05 AM »
Hey Everybody  ;D (Hey Dr. Nick. . .)
How is everybody doing now that we're getting down to the wire? I'm moving into the Tower on Friday. I'm so excited. Grubes, are you already moved in? How was your trip out to California? Good luck to everybody with all of your moves and last minute arrangements! We're almost there :
Talk to you later,

I'm all moved and settled in. It was a good time. I spent the last few days with my girlfriend exploring the city. I've never been here before so I was pretty impressed/overwhelmed/etc. I was really surprised at my neighborhood...I know, I've heard about it all, but it is sketch central and reminded me of the seedy area I stayed in while I was in Amsterdam right near the red light district.

 Class sections? Web advisor? I suppose you all have email too.....Hmmmmm, I wonder where I got lost.....I'll get it figured out. Not to worry.

I've moved in. Let me know what the plans are. Looking forward to meeting new people.

i say zeitgeist or casanova again unless someone wants to try to drag us out of the mission ;)

ps: i'm posting from a cafe in minneapolis - it's so hot i'm pretty sure i'm melting.

Welcome to Minneapolis. Its been hotter than a bastard for the last two weeks. Freezing, stupifying winters, and sweltering humid summers. The weather is rarely just "nice" save early spring and fall. Why anyone chooses to live here is beyond me (aside from the affordability, quality of life, rich theater culture-don't laugh, its true-and the swedish chicks).

I'm moving into my new tenderloin neighborhood two weeks from today. I'm a little excited, a little nervous, and a little sad. Its so hard to abandon all the relationships I've worked so hard to cultivate during high school and undergrad. You guys all better rock, or else I'm going to be seriously pissed. >:(
I'm drunk at work right now as well.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Hastings Bound
« on: July 15, 2005, 01:32:35 PM »
Cooly ooly o 
Good info...

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