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U of California - Hastings / Re: Class of 2008
« on: August 01, 2005, 05:55:37 PM »
hey stud cakes, can you still actually get into the tower? I'm in on the fourteenth floor overlooking the bay....:)Its close to campus, has built in study/recreation space/convenience. I want nothing more my 1L especially comming from minnesota. Convenience, convenience, convenience. Yeah, it probably sucks. You can find a nicer place farther away for less money. My room is 397 sq ft for 915 a month. When it comes down to it, you have a room. You aren't goint to have that much time your 1l to puruse your neighborhood anyway. Thats my 2 cents.

E Dog

Current Law Students / Re: Do you hate law?
« on: July 18, 2005, 10:44:55 AM »
I think its time for me to jump back in. There are many things I look forward to with a law degree. Big Law is not one of them. Remember, we are not slaves to the corporations, we have a choice and do not have to work any job we do not want to.

Yes, some jobs require you bill ridiculous hours. But many smaller firm...and be prepared to let go of some of that loot we all have in our eyes.....have much more accomodatable schedules. Billing 1800 hours isn't that bad. I work at Target Corp right now and the guys with "double cubes" and corner offices work at least 50 hours a week. Thats what professionals with "salaries" work. If you work 40 hrs a week, you are a wage earner and probably make less than 40k per year, at least at the beginning of your career.

If new eager law students told biglaw eat sh't, 125k isn't worth it, then one of two things would happen. 1) Law firms would realize that the quality of life (less hours) needs to be improved or 2) Raise salaries even more. But at some point this is not profitable.

Anyway, I'm shooting for a salary when I graduate in the 65,000 - 75,000 range working in a small firm doing litigation (i.e. slightly better hours, more interesting work/hands on with clients, will get to see a court room before I retire).

U of California - Hastings / Re: Class of 2008
« on: July 08, 2005, 01:28:40 PM »
I'm trying to get it all straightened out, but I should be in sometime around the 1st of August. I'm looking forward to working my ass off. I can't wait to get out of this job I'm in right now and to do some real work at improving myself and others.

Here's to a bright future...not in corporate America....

Here here.

Current Law Students / Re: law school depression
« on: July 08, 2005, 01:22:44 PM »
Funny, I just said hello to him today. I ran into him on my walk to work as he was ducking into WCCO radio to do his show.

I really love his no tax pledge that has shifted the source of education funding regressively towards local property taxes. He needs to wake up. I think I'm going to charge him a fee for being an idiot.

Current Law Students / Re: law school depression
« on: July 08, 2005, 08:03:06 AM »
Thats interesting. I don't think I've ever heard anything other than the exact opposite. I assume you are being facetious.

U of California - Hastings / Re: Class of 2008
« on: July 07, 2005, 03:07:59 PM »
I have a 397 sq ft studio. There are some posters on the Pre-Law side of this site that seem to be working out happy hours. They've done a few and are kicking around the idea of one in August. I think its under SF Happy Hour or something. We'll have to kick it in the Tower. Good times.

U of California - Hastings / Re: Class of 2008
« on: July 07, 2005, 09:50:24 AM »
Oscar, I like you man. You're crazy - Will Farrell Voice -

I am from the most wholesome place on earth, Central Minesota. Most recently I hail from Minneapolis.

I've done a lot of soul searching the past three months and have arrived back where I started, which is a good thing. It makes me confident in my choices.

I just found out that I got an apartment in the Tower and I couldn't be happier. I'll be on the 14th floor looking east over the bay. The sun will greet me in the morning. What's your situation on living quarters, etc? Where are you from? There are some other LSDers that have been planning happy hours around the area, I suggest we join them.

Thanks Jake. People generally don't like me, so I guess I"m screwed. I kid I kid. Is my background that interesting, not really, its different, a little on the tough side. Maybe being a farm kid from the midwest will be entertaining to the west coasters, who knows. Peace.

U of California - Hastings / Re: Hastings - A Very Competitive School
« on: July 06, 2005, 08:45:16 AM »
Hey, thanks for the insight. I'm happy to hear such positive responses. I have a questions about the firm you were placed at and your hours, since I have already decided that big law is not what i want to do, at all. The pay is good, but the quality of life is bad. The free time I spend with my girlfriend, and future wife as far as I am concerned, is above and beyond more valuable than hitting 2200 billable.

What are the time committments at the firm where you are/will be employed? I'm currently looking at government and pubic interest as my area of focus (quality of life is better and thats where my interests lie), but I am also contemplating small and medium firms if the quality of life is there. Whats your take on the weekly hours you will be putting in? What is the minimum billable?

Current Law Students / Re: law school depression
« on: June 23, 2005, 03:48:54 PM »
I've been hearing these things for the past four months and I've begun to take them very, very seriously. My girlfriend who recently interned for Governor Tim Pawlenty relayed his words of wisdom to me, an individual already in a state of uncertainty.
At a thank you reception for a number of interns who worked for him, he asked, out of the blue, "So are any of you thinking about going to law school?" No one spoke. He said, "Good" and nodded slightly. "My only advice to you all is DON'T GO TO LAW SCHOOL. Do whatever it is that interests you, and run with it. If you are at all outgoing, law school will suck the life and personality out of you."

So yeah, I've thought about it. I'm accepted to UC Hastings and I may not go. Maybe I'll reapply in two years, maybe I'll do something else. Maybe I'll take some time to really figure out what the hell makes up this thing I call me. Wanting to be successful and saying "What else would I do" is not a very good reason. I'm not so sure "getting into politics" is a very good reason either. Being a government lawyer would be alright, maybe, I don't know, but if I want to be a government lawyer I won't make much more than I make right now and so there really isn't a rush to get into right this instant then is there?

Food for thought.

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