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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Best time to buy a laptop?
« on: June 03, 2004, 10:08:13 AM »
I was actually thinking about it (although the blue one is pretty good looking too).  Anyone have one?  Would you recommend it?

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: Fox News?
« on: June 03, 2004, 10:07:19 AM »
I'm really surprised that out of all the countries listed that could cause problems with the US, no one mentioned Saudi Arabia.  If we were going to go in and attack a country - why not that one?  Many of the 9/11 terrorists were from... Saudi Arabia.  Yes, Saddam gassed his own people, but guess what - Saudi Arabia lets their women and female children be treated terribly and no one says anything and that is 50% of the population about - not the small number that Saddam gassed.  When you look at Al Qaeda, many of the members are Saudi.  When you here about terrorist attacks, they are happening in Saudi.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Food Stamps
« on: June 02, 2004, 12:13:41 PM »
It doens't disqualify you immediately - however according to the food stamp site it comes extremely close (

Most able-bodied students ages 18 through 49 who are enrolled in college or other institutions of higher education at least half time are not eligible for food stamps. However, students may be able to get food stamps if otherwise eligible and they:

Get public assistance benefits under a Title IV-A program I don't know how many are involved with this
Take part in a State or federally financed work study program - first year students can't work most places so this is out
Work at least 20 hours a week same as above

The rest are mostly for students with children
Are taking care of a dependent household member under the age of 6;
Are taking care of a dependent household member over the age of 5 but under 12 and do not have adequate child care to enable them to attend school and work a minimum of 20 hours, or to take part in a State or federally financed work study program; or
Are assigned to or placed in a college or certain other schools through:

A program under the Workforce Investment Act of 1998,
A program under Section 236 of the Trade Act of 1974,
An employment and training program under the Food Stamp Act, or
An employment and training program operated by a State or local government.
Also, a single parent enrolled full time in college and taking care of a dependent household member under the age of 12 can get food stamps if otherwise eligible.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Food Stamps
« on: June 02, 2004, 12:06:16 PM »
"so you're saying that it is not possible to have a college degree and be in need?"

You can be - but if you are thinking about going to a school that costs somewhere around 7k-30k a year, you probably aren't in need.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Food Stamps
« on: June 02, 2004, 11:52:07 AM »
Law students have a college degree - right then and there they fall into a "privledged" class.  You may have little or no money going to Yale - but you have a degree, you could work (if you weren't in school) and you made the choice to go to Yale.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Food Stamps
« on: June 02, 2004, 11:46:38 AM »
"Why do you assume that students choose not to work?"

Most schools have policies that first year law students cannot work. If you go to an ABA approved school full-time, the ABA says you cannot work your first year.  When you turn in your application at most schools that I have seen, there is a box where you say you understand this policy and you will not work your first year.

"Why do you assume that the student is not working?"

I assume they are not working because at some schools, this is even in the honor code that you say you will abide by.  The first year, you are not suppose to work (of course this is only ABA schools full-time).

"When I was in the army I qualified for food stamps.  They even had an NCO who was given the job of helping soldiers apply for food stamps, among other duties."

That is because we don't pay our soldiers anything and most have to get food stamps.  This is different than law school students.  How does this tie in.

Please relize, I am making mostly general statements.  This does not count for students that are going at night (thus working most-likely), have dependants (children or parents) or otherwise are not the "typical" student.  Most of my statements are about the "typical" student - 20's, not single parents, and not disabled in someway.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Food Stamps
« on: June 02, 2004, 11:22:54 AM »
The reason that students shouldn't get food stamps (unless they qualify, which reading through the food stamp program, they most likely won't) is because they choose not to work.  Part of the requirements, if you are a student, is that you work at least 20 hours a week.  A first year law student knows, going into it, that he or she isn't allowed to work the first year.  He or she also knows that taking out loans is a fact of life for most law school students.  Of course, if a student has children, cares for an elderly parents, etc, that changes it, but if the student is a 26 year old who has choosen to go back to school, he or she has made the choice to not work (which would pay for food) and take out loans for school/room and board. 

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: Fox News?
« on: June 02, 2004, 11:10:58 AM »
One day for fun, I was watching something on Iraq and switched between the three main news channels to see the difference.  Something along the following lines were what they were saying about the same event:

MSNBC:  The war in Iraq is getting out of control.  Just today, 3 more soldiers died in the war tha Bush got us into.  There are still no wmd's found and Congressional hearings are going on to get to the bottom of this travesty!

FoxNews:  Three soldiers were killed by extremist terrorists today in a blatent act of terriorism.  The war in Iraq is still being found by our men and women of the Armed Forces who are searching for the wmd's that are still being hidden in Iraq.  Democrats again had frequent outbursts in the Congressional hearings.

CNN:  Three soldiers were killed in Iraq in a car bomb.  No one has claimed responsibility yet.  On the Hill, Congressional hearings started on their (something) day with both Republicans and Democrats talking to so and so.

Anytime I've done this (switch between the three stations), it always seems MSNBC=left, FoxNews=right, CNN=more facts than the other two.  Of course, if they are having their news shows hosted by people, then it depends on the person, but just for news it always seems that they are pretty much on those lines.

Since Focus on the Family is based in Colorado Springs, my bet is that it was just a campaign stop on the way - or that James Dobson is going to the AFA to meet before Bush gives his speech.  From what I have read (it has been in the newspapers a little here), it is to get his conservative base behind him for the election.  Also, Colorado Springs is very right and two of the congresspeople (Musgrave and Allard) who are trying to get the anti-gay marriage amendment passed are from that area.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Food Stamps
« on: June 02, 2004, 11:01:52 AM »
Food stamps aren't there for law students - they are there for people that really need them.  A law student made the choice to go to law school. A law student, just by the fact that he or she has already has atleast a college degree has more earning potiental than many people.  Food stamps are there for people that are mentally or physically ill, have come on hard times (such as having a spouse die), or are older and can't work anymore.  By this reasoning, I don't think they are there for law students.  Personally, I also don't think they are there for someone who has had many children without being able to support them when they had them (not for people that had them and then lost a spouse, etc) because that was also a choice they made.  (However, the problem is that once the children are here, they have to be fed, thus why I am completely for birth control being given out freely to people on welfare)

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