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ok thats nice that you don't pay attention to any schools because you are so full of yourself Steph, but CAN I GO BUY THE RANKINGS AT BARNES AND NOBLES

i dont think that makes me self-centered. it just means i'm smarter than you. :)

no you can't buy it until the first. and even then it's not guaranteed to be on the shelf.

Sure you can buy it yourself its at the bookstore (at least starting yesterday).  I saw it at the Newark airport.

As one of those people who talked about a school's LSAT score going up yet not seeing a rise in their rankings (I'm speaking specifically of Illinois), let me take this opportunity to clarify my position:

1. I'm not sure if it's true that nearly every school's numbers went up. Regardless, I doubt many schools had a 3 point spike in their LSAT median.

2. We are aware that the US News rankings are not a function soley of the quality of the student body. The problem is that many of those other categories are irrelevant to the quality of a law school. That Illinois dramatically improved the strength of its class (an important measure of a school's quality) yet did not see a rise in its rankings is an indication of the poverty of US News' system. Maybe UIUC doesn't have has many books in its library as, say Boston University. Does that really matter to anyone?

3. Although I don't think GPA and LSAT scores are perfect indicators of the strength of a student, I'd say they're not bad as general tests.  


If you look at the reputation rankings you will see the difference between Illinois and "other" schools.  For instance Iowa, which has much higher reputation rankings.  Not that I necessarily believe that Iowa is respected more than Illinois but those are what the numbers say. 

We're talking about tiny differences when you get up to the T25 groups, as opposed to huge jumps by IIT-Kent, Loyola and DePaul which may have only changed a small number of items and yielded significant increase in rank.

Law School Admissions / Re: Loyola Chicago Email Tdoay??
« on: March 24, 2006, 04:19:59 PM »
Just called them and they said I was accepted... The admissions lady said everyone who got accepted on March 13 did not get their letters for some reason.... I am kinda shocked that I got in though, so this is a good thing...

What were your numbers?

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Kent v. Loyola
« on: March 24, 2006, 04:02:30 PM »
What I am curious about is this idea that Loyola and DePaul are on their way out? Is this the feeling of some who knows or just some LSDer spouting off their personal feelings and labelling them as fact.  There is a lot of that on here and I just curious if there is some wealth of information out there that I just don't have or if it is all just poo.

Mostly just Pooo...

However, I spoke to a middle aged lawyer, he was surprised that Kent Law was rated well.  He said he knew more Loyola/DePaul was better known.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Kent v. Loyola
« on: March 24, 2006, 03:33:16 PM »
I just don't see how that is possible. According the LSAC data, the employment rate for Loyola is 91% compared to 90% for Kent. Also, both of my friends who attend Kent went to Top 5 schools and have awesome summer jobs lined up at BIGLAW firms. People I know in Chicago say that Loyola/Depaul have fallen on hard times, but maybe the situation is changing?

If you look at the data the schools report themselves (from their websites) Loyola grads have a significantly higher average starting salary, a higher bar passage rate, and a higher employment rate.  My father-in-law is a partner at a BIGLAW firm in Chicago and he told me to go to Loyola.  In fact, every attorney I've met in Chicago (and I know quite a few) say that, between the 2 schools, Loyola wins every time.

What about Loyola Kent versus Iowa/Wisconsin?

Law School Admissions / Re: What LSAT Score Do I Need?
« on: March 23, 2006, 02:08:15 PM »
All the above comments assume you are not a URM>  If you are in fact a URM then things change significantly.  However, even a 152 and URM status will only break you into T2.

I've been told to give either 2 weeks to 1.5 months.  It depends on how much people depend on you and training.  Are you flipping burgers or making copies... 2 weeks is fine.  If you're a professional 1 month.  If you're depended on and have an expertise in a special area then it should be more than 1 month.

Depends on how valuable you are to the company, if you consider yourself unimportant to the work or you can easily be replaced then its probably okay to give short notice.  No reason to burn bridges, even people who are your friends (future recommenders) may not be like getting screwed with your extra work when you ditch them.

What attire should I wear if It's not the official admitted students day?  I have been accepted.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: scholarship waitlist?
« on: March 22, 2006, 03:34:42 PM »
Yeah, I don't think I would go to Ohio State at this point, anyway but I thought I would hear by now. I emailed WI and asked for a status and they said they will try and expedite my review--it was actually one of my top choices. Stats wise I'm in the middle...LSAT 165, GPA 3.3; I've been out of undergrad for four years.

I haven't heard from Chicago-Kent, either. Notre Dame was a long shot; Iowa actually has a better program for what I want to do. I'm just really bummed b/c people with lesser numbers got substantial money at Iowa

Well, my numbers aren't nearly as high as yours (157/165 with a GPA of 3.45) however, I also have 3 years of experiance.  I have not heard anything from Iowa for money they told me first release would be late March.

University of Wisconsin said they'd let me know sometime after April 12th.  So basically I'm being put on hold unless someone better accepts... not exactly a great way to encourage me to go there.  I guess its a pride thing, I want to be "wanted".  I'm a backup.

Kent made me an offer with about $10k.  I"m surprised you didn't get accepted.

Iowa is pretty good school.  I have concerns about their placement in Chicago.  What field do you want to work in?  where did you want to work?

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: scholarship waitlist?
« on: March 22, 2006, 01:34:36 PM »
JUST posted this somewhere else. I'm on this dreaded list too--appears there are a lot of us. I applied in January (mid to late), was accepted less than six weeks later and then got this letter in the mail this week. I emailed them to ask the odds of getting money if we're on this list and she told me VERY slim. So I'm thinking in an effort to boost enrollment (they have a rather high acceptance rate for T25) they got a little generous with the pocketbook.

Bummer....b/c money or not I'm almost sure I'm going to Iowa. Unless of course God himself selects me from the Notre Dame waitlist

Still haven't heard from Wisconsin, though....or Ohio State....anyone else waiting on these?

What's your stats?  I'm in the same boat... I got accepted to Iowa, Waitlist/holdlist for Wisconsin and Illinois.  Ohio State hasn't responded but I'm not going to go either way.

I didn't apply to Notre Dame.

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